Dabesiv

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I have been iffy about doing subs for years as I don't want the extra weight, but I am really thinking about it the more I listen to some songs that just lack the thump they need. I use my storage area so mounting a box in that would be an inconvenience, but i was wondering about building a custom box that would sit behind the rear seats. Not in the hatch area but in the wall behind the actual seats when they are folded down. I cant imagine there is much of anything back there but empty space and it would be a nice hidden location. Has anyone tried this or is there anything back there that would prevent this?

Zane M

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I believe the fuel tank isn't going to leave you much room in that area, if I am picturing what you want to do in my head correctly.

cdoyle

The fuel tank is directly behind that area, so you're not going to have any room.
Plus even if it wasn't, you would have to cut the floor and fabricate some sort of box. Just not worth it.

If you don't want to use the storage well. You could try mounting a single 10 inside the rear storage compartment? Not the well, but that little glove box thing. It would take a little work, but you could fiberglass a box and I think a 10 would fit. Just not sure of the sound since it's mostly covered.

Another option is putting the subs on top of the rear floor, and then building a false floor to cover everything. You could even build a little door that swings open to gain access to the storage well.

jwfirebird

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ive been contemplating the same thing lately. what about under the pass side dash. would it rattle too much? my heater stuff is long gone but if i remember right there was still some room toward the rear of the car

cdoyle

Anything is possible with a lot of fabrication/Fiberglass skills. But I have a feeling that would rattle your dash apart. I'm also not sure that I would want the sub so close to your ears though, it would overpower everything else in your system.

Dabesiv

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Wow, I completely spaced out about the fuel tank. well there may be some way to work around it haha back to the drawing board I guess.

I agree that you don't want the sub that close to your ears, I have a friend who has his subs in the back of a pathfinder, front seats sound great for music but the back seats all you hear is hummmmmm bummm hummmm the whole time and don't expect to talk to anyone but yourself. Subs seem to be more about the feel and tone and you need to be further away to appreciate them more.

Plus under the dash you risk damaging the speaker more, either water getting kicked up there from your shoes if its wet outside, or when my heater core blew it was leaking on the passenger side all around that area and coolant can't be great for electronics.

jwfirebird

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i guess its not a good idea. the car isnt the best for subs, unless you want to give up passenger space which i dont. and the well is full of t-tops most of the time

lettuce

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I just built a box with one ten in the very bottom space of the well and my t-tops still fit right where they used to. Theres not alot of space in these third gens for woofers. I think that glove box area or the well is about the only place unless you remove the bottoms of the back seats

The Project

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Couple of ideas



10" in the rear sail

Dabesiv

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I love that first one, never would have thought of that as a location.

jwfirebird

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i wonder how much that one in the well would weigh

The Project

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You could always make it out of fibreglass with vinyl instead of wood/carpet to save weight and for a more OEM look.

jwfirebird

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might end up doing that, it will be my first time trying fiberglass though

Dabesiv

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I'm thinking now about maybe a box built into the large storage door. It would look completely stock and have a thin carpet over the top so no one thinks of stealing the system, but if you open the door there will be a sub and amp mounted to the door. If I ever did it I would gladly share pictures.

jwfirebird

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i dont think you would have room in there to hide it, certainly wouldnt have air space. you can see in the pics having to bring it out from where the cover normally is.

cdoyle

I think you could do either 1 10, or the amp. Not both.
There isn't a whole lot of room back in there. I currently have my amp hidden in that spot.

jwfirebird

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could put the other in the spare tire well

chadthedad

My plan is for one 10" ultra shallow Rockford Fosgate subwoofer in the spare tire area and a 5 channel amp in the storage area (I would take out the cardboard storage thingy). I will modify the spare tire cover a bit as a speaker grill to get more sound out. I'm not looking for earth shaking bass, just more kick and or a little thump.

Bigchris20

hey im new here just got my camaro about a month and a half ago, but I HAD to install a complete new system, radio, speakers. sub. My car is so original, I dont want to make any major mods, people love that oem look of the car. But depending on how much bass you wont, I brought a MTX powered sub from cructhfield for $126 bucks. This little 8" sounds great actually better then I thought, it also has remote gain control, check out the reviews, plus it fits in that little cubby hole in the back, only down side no grill cover.
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_236RT8PT/MTX-RT8PT.html

Dabesiv

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Well I have been giving it more thought and I think I will go with my own custom box in the storage door, planning it out now and am gonna see about getting 2 10" subs and amp kit tomorrow. like I said before, if i do build this box I will share.

blacksunshine'91

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2nd picture=stupid location.

On the first picture, is that your car or did you find that on the internet?

Hawk92z-TDZ

Equals awesome stealth location, put the sail cover back on, never know it was there, but its a royal pain in the **** to seal it 100% properly, surprisingly lots of air volume back there but also lots of holes

Easiest to do is a nice sealed or ported 10 in the spare tire location, stealthed but simple, and who in the right mind trusts a 20-25 year old spare tire anyways, I toss em in the trash soon as I get the car. lol

I have done 12's in the spare tire location too, but only sealed if u plan on a generic box, measure carefully before buying, they are a tight fit, to do a port 12" then u need to do some custom box building

blacksunshine'91

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I was referring to the sub box sitting in the rear hatch area. The sail panels would be a nice spot if the covers fit back on them.

Dabesiv

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Just sayin', I have trusted my 31 year old spare tire on many occasions and it has been fine.

I feel like unless you get a low profile sub that the sails would be too shallow, my subs I just put in were a good 5" deep which I doubt would fit right in the sail.

Hawk92z-TDZ

I think you should buy a loto ticket, lol. I have watched them let go just taking the weight off the jack letting the car down, hell I could walk outside in the snow and take a picture of the pouched one that let go on a 85Z thats in the back, I don't trust em, tires have an expiration, they do die of old age, just get CAA or what ever you guys call it down there or like me have one or 2 or 3 already on a rim at the house, wifes just a phone call away, lol

As for the sub depth, that should go without saying, the one in the pic is a phoenix gold XS series, they are not to bad, about the same depth of the old JL W0's and about equivilant subs, but the 15' X-max in the box that blocks your rear view, now that's different, no 10" X-max would of fit without building it out as mounting depth was signifently deeper, about the same as the old JL W6's.
The new Shallow mount subs everyone is coming out with would work but are not required to fit, I am running two 10" MB Quart shallows under the rear seat of my EXT and the out put of the shallows are lacking, good enough to keep my old ears happy but definitely lacking compaired to my old school twin 10" set-up in my 99 Camaro. As a compairison, they are about as loud at the single 10" MTX I have under the rear seat of my old 91 GMC mud/plow truck, lol

A lot of todays subs definitely run deeper mounting depth compaired to the older ones I am more familiar with, but one always needs to measure everything out 1st, then plan

personaly I like running 8" and tweet combo's in the sails, usually set more as a woofer then a sub woofer, and then something a little bigger tucked away in the back

Anyway, just food for thought, to each there own guilty pleasures, lol

ringo234

The best place is the storage area. Could you put the amp under the one of the rear seats.

The sail panels came with a hard paper sound enclosure. Mine are mostly falling apart but would be good to use as template to make a custom one.

I have LS1 brakes so stock spare won't fit anyway, but I do have a fourth gen spare that fits in the stock location so that spot is out for me.

Dabesiv

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Well I replaced the fronts with tweeters and did some nice quality speakers for the sails, now that I have the subs everything sounds so much better.

I am trying to find a place to get me new tires for that old spare, but if it works like it is supposed to I am not worried and plan to keep it as I don't have extra wheels and tires sitting around and I refuse to get a tow truck unless it's my absolutely last option.

BTW, sub box is done. I won't lie, it's not that great, but I think for my first time ever building a sub box and one day of construction, it came out pretty damn nice. I will post pics and a all in the next few days as well as plans for the next build and some tips for anyone else who attempts it.

Jim85IROC

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Just to clear up a couple misconceptions that were propagated through this thread, there's nothing wrong with having your sub mounted near you. Every single cab truck in the world that has a sub, has it "near" the driver. The center console is a very popular mounting location for a lot of vehicles. The sub won't overpower the rest of your speakers if you set it up properly. Amplifiers and head units come with gain controls & output level controls for a reason. In fact, mounting your sub in front of your listening position is considered to be the "holy grail" of sub mounting for many because it is the most effective way of eliminating that "bass behind you" sound that inevitably results from mounting the sub behind your listening position. That said, in our cars, you can forget about it. There is not sufficient usable space anywhere in front of the listening position to provide adequate, properly damped enclosure space.