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Old 12-12-2011, 06:32 PM
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Beware of John8169

Deletes pictures as soon as a issue is discovered and blames me for not looking closer at the picture. He then claims he never saw a issue with the runners.

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/clas.../635375-a.html (a)

Scammer !!!


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Re: Beware of John8169

Upset because he cant sell the parts he bought from me and make money. Used runners were in good condition and got a good deal, admits to seeing after looking closer the imperfection he does not like, so i guess he just wont make money this time, $240 for edelbrock tpi runners shipping and paid w/paypal included. **** you tunedperformance !!!!!!!!!!
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Interesting thread. Try and work something out guys.

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oh no

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Re: Beware of John8169

Originally Posted by david068513
Interesting thread. Try and work something out guys.
This guy will not work anything out !!!


From: John Munao <jmunao@yahoo.com>
To: Brian Van Schoiack <brianlvs@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: Edelbrock 89 up tpi runners

OK so you can see it in the picture and saw the picture before you bought, i didnt not see that and that looks like a defect to me, not my fault.
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Subject: Re: Edelbrock 89 up tpi runners

If you look at the picture you posted on the bottom you can see that this was like it before it was shipped. Would you be willing to discount these so I can get this heli arched.

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Subject: Re: Edelbrock 89 up tpi runners

I dont know, i never saw that, I never installed these and bought them used.

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Subject: Re: Edelbrock 89 up tpi runners

John, The runners came today but there is a issue with one that you did not specify. I attached a picture the one runner has a deep nick or maybe a pry mark.
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Re: Beware of John8169

Tunedperformance is "C4-thirdgen" on EBAY, HE will take the things you sell him for a good deal and make a profit on you selling things on ebay , check him out, he has sold over 1000 parts there.

Tunedperformance is USING YOUR good deal to resell on EBAY !!!!!!!

GET A FAIR PRICE, dont let these thieves profit form your generousity !!!!!!!
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Sorry I am not arkansas polishing ???

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Re: Beware of John8169

Originally Posted by john8169
Tunedperformance is "C4-thirdgen" on EBAY, HE will take the things you sell him for a good deal and make a profit on you selling things on ebay , check him out, he has sold over 1000 parts there.

Tunedperformance is USING YOUR good deal to resell on EBAY !!!!!!!

GET A FAIR PRICE, dont let these thieves profit form your generousity !!!!!!!
are you going to delete this too
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Re: Beware of John8169

Originally Posted by john8169
Tunedperformance is "C4-thirdgen" on EBAY, HE will take the things you sell him for a good deal and make a profit on you selling things on ebay , check him out, he has sold over 1000 parts there.

Tunedperformance is USING YOUR good deal to resell on EBAY !!!!!!!

GET A FAIR PRICE, dont let these thieves profit form your generousity !!!!!!!
i hate that guy he always talking trash about other sellers on ebay he only wants to be the only who sells tpi parts at hi cost
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Re: Beware of John8169

Originally Posted by 1BADZ28SD
i hate that guy he always talking trash about other sellers on ebay he only wants to be the only who sells tpi parts at hi cost
Which guy are you referring to?
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"C4-thirdgen"
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isaac weaver ?
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Re: Beware of John8169

Originally Posted by tunedperformanc
Sorry I am not arkansas polishing ???
tunedperformance why did you send me an email with ebay feedback from "c4-thirdgen" about me, if "c4-Thirdgen" is not you ????
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Re: Beware of John8169

Um... that was a link to you being dis honest. Old ebay user names of yours ring a bell...

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thisplacesucksdix Aug-07-10 Sep-24-10
gottaahaveitnow Mar-11-08 Aug-07-10
thisplacesuks Jan-04-08 Mar-11-08
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Re: Beware of John8169

YOU do KNOW YOU are acting like YOUR STALKING ME !!!!!!
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Re: Beware of John8169

Originally Posted by john8169
YOU do KNOW YOU are acting like YOUR STALKING ME !!!!!!
No just exposing the truth, btw your caps lock is on
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Re: Beware of John8169

Originally Posted by tunedperformanc
Um... that was a link to you being dis honest. Old ebay user names of yours ring a bell...

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jmunao Oct-07-98 Apr-02-06
OH !!! SO, DISHONEST IN YOUR OPINION IS RETURNING THE MONEY TO SOMEONE INSTEAD OF SELLING THEM SOMETHING. I DECIDED TO RETURN HIS MONEY, BECAUSE I ALWAYS HAVE A PROBLEM WITH YOU PEOPLE THAT GET A GREAT DEAL, THEN COMPLAIN ABOUT IT TRYING TO GET MONEY OUT OF ME !!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Beware of John8169

funny how you did not talk about the post when someone bought $20,000 tree chipper from me and complained that the tires blew out on his 800 mile trip home, well I only take it on 20 mile trips and they never blew on me and the looked good to him too or he would have changed the tires.
YOU can see it in the picture after you look close, but you were to worried about getting it for a better deal emailling me with offers and you BULL$hit !!!!!!! NOT my fault again, but anyone can leave feedback and just sound like they are being cheated !!!!!
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Re: Beware of John8169

Originally Posted by tunedperformanc
This guy will not work anything out !!!


From: John Munao <jmunao@yahoo.com>
To: Brian Van Schoiack <brianlvs@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: Edelbrock 89 up tpi runners

OK so you can see it in the picture and saw the picture before you bought, i didnt not see that and that looks like a defect to me, not my fault.
From: Brian Van Schoiack <brianlvs@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: Edelbrock 89 up tpi runners

If you look at the picture you posted on the bottom you can see that this was like it before it was shipped. Would you be willing to discount these so I can get this heli arched.

From: John Munao <jmunao@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: Edelbrock 89 up tpi runners

I dont know, i never saw that, I never installed these and bought them used.

From: Brian Van Schoiack <brianlvs@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: Edelbrock 89 up tpi runners

John, The runners came today but there is a issue with one that you did not specify. I attached a picture the one runner has a deep nick or maybe a pry mark.
Not to take sides, since I know neither of you but....

It sounds like you missed seeing a defect in the part that was in the pic. Maybe he didn't disclose it in his text in his ad, but if it was there in the pic for you to seem you overlooked it & bought it anyways.....Sounds like the error was on your end for buying. If his pic in the ad showed the defect & you bought it anyways.....He owes you nothing. You should have paid attention to the pic closer & asked before buying. And depending on the crack you see, it may be such a minor defect that the gasket remedies it. I don't know.....I don't care.

Bottom line? When a Buyer overlooks a defect in a pic yet bought anyways, the problem lies with the Buyer, not the Seller. Maybe the Seller did not fully disclose the condition, but the flaw evident in the pic & the Buyer should look close & ask. Live, Learn, Admit your mistake in not looking close & asking & move on.....
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OH WELL , I just going to keep making money like I always do !!!!


GOOD LUCK there BRIAN , BYE BYE !!!!
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Re: Beware of John8169

YES, and tunedperformance has made it so i can not make other deals , holding up MY PAYPAL ACCOUNT HAS AFFECTED OTHERS HERE.


TUNEDPERFORMANCE IS HOLDING UP OTHER DEALS THAT ARE THRU PAYPAL, BY COMPLAINING TO PAYPAL !!!!!!!!!!

NOW I HAVE TO REFUND THEIR MONEY ALSO !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Beware of John8169

Generally speaking on this sort of topic. My comments are not a comdenation or advocation of either party regarding this dispute. However, I don't see the point of any vendor in taking this type of dispute to the airwaves potentially ruining or damaging their credibility and business. Whether or not the vendor here--and I really am at a loss figuring who is who in this debate--sold a defective part or if the buyer purchased said part without clearly looking at it, is beside the point, at least to me.

What I will take away from this topic is that if I ever needed something and these two names came up as a seller, I would shy away from that deal based on past events. Am I going to gamble that the part that I need is not only unreturnable but a fight erupts over returning it based on who said what.

Imagine if you will for a moment then, if the seller had said, you know, I'll take it back, no questions asked. His credibility goes through the roof. His reputation stays intact and most likely sells more things to more people.

The purchaser then lauds the seller, like we do here about various vendors such as UMI Performance, Spohn, Summit Racing, or Energy Suspension, making the buyer a customer for life.

To me none of these things happened and has only created doubt, at least in my mind, of ever dealing with any of the individuals party to this problem.

My parents taught me that the only thing you have control over is your honor. Don't ever do anything today that would embarass your loved ones in tomorrow's newspaper. I hope this problem is resolved satisfactorily to both parties.
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Re: Beware of John8169

Originally Posted by tunedperformanc
Deletes pictures as soon as a issue is discovered and blames me for not looking closer at the picture. He then claims he never saw a issue with the runners.

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/clas.../635375-a.html (a)

Scammer !!!


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TUNEDPERFORMANC IS A THIEF, he got paypal to give him back $60 from my account because he claims he didnt not look at the picture until receiving them and then said i knew of the problem. I didnt see a problem and he saw the pics before purchase which he says he can now see .
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Re: Beware of John8169

Originally Posted by john8169
TUNEDPERFORMANC IS A THIEF, he got paypal to give him back $60 from my account because he claims he didnt not look at the picture until receiving them and then said i knew of the problem. I didnt see a problem and he saw the pics before purchase which he says he can now see .
I can send them back and you can pay the shipping as well, You offered no resolution so paypal was the mediator since you never replied to defend yourself.
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Re: Beware of John8169

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/engi...ers-250-a.html

i would assume you are talking about this thread...and since you delete all pics and info of for sale items it makes it a bit hard to take your word for it. to be honest you deleting all info on sold items make you look suspicious.

on top of you being on probation and acting like a huge child on the message boards who do you expect to believe you?

you are on here just to selll items what exactly do you bring to the message boards other than that? your just a reseller as well
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Re: Beware of John8169

Not to go into details but i also had a bad experience with John Munao. Only as the seller. I would have to agree, I would be very hesitant to do business again. Beware.
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Re: Beware of John8169

He jacked me around on a torque arm .I sent the money then he backed out.
Then he started deleting stuff from the post. Why would anyone delete stuff from a post unless they were dishonest. Then I had to get my money back through pay pal. My money was tied up for a good month. By the way if you can buy somthing then sell it for a profit that is called capitalism, Of which this country was built on.

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Re: Beware of John8169

It wouldn't hurt to do a screenshot of the thread or PM at time of purchase...

If they edit the post or delete a pic after the sale, you still have evidence before the edit.

That would've helped in this situation and would be a good habit when buying something on the forums.
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I did that.
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I always do that before payment is sent, from now on lesson learned ;(
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Re: Beware of John8169

What seems funny here is that john8169 disappeared from this thread after others chimed in about their problem transactions with him. Also it is pretty bad when someone has to keep changing EBAY names. hmmm.
As for Tunedperformance I have respect for him due to what he does bring to this forum and would be willing to deal with him if he had something I needed.
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Re: Beware of John8169

Originally Posted by 91phoenix
What seems funny here is that john8169 disappeared from this thread after others chimed in about their problem transactions with him. Also it is pretty bad when someone has to keep changing EBAY names. hmmm.
As for Tunedperformance I have respect for him due to what he does bring to this forum and would be willing to deal with him if he had something I needed.
Thanks 91phoenix
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Re: Beware of John8169

I always am willimg to give credit where credit is due.
In case you did not get it the first time again.
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Re: Beware of John8169

What a bunch of losers, still talking about me 5 months later just to keep the thread on top.
YOU ALL NEED TO GET A LIFE, I HAVE A LIFE AND HAVE BEEN DOING MY THING, WHICH IS MAKE MONEY, ALMOST $10K A MONTH FOR 5 MONTHS NOW !!!
I SOLD MY 1991 Z28 WITH 12K MILES TO DAVID06853 AND HAVE ANOTHER 1991 convert WORTH $30K OR SO.
MY HEAVY EQUIPMENT ALONE COST MORE THAN THE HOUSE ANY OF YOU LIVE IN AND I DONT HAVE TIME FOR ALL YOUR PETTY CRAP. I LOST $60 FROM PAYPAL DUE TO TUNEDPERFORMANC BULL ****. THEY WERE ****ING TPI RUNNERS.
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eat me !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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CAN EASILY BUY ALL YOUR CARS ANY DAY !!!!!!!!! MY Z06 IS ON THE WAY !!!!
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how could you not notice a pry mark like this and charge so much for the runners. Than delete all the posts.

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TUNEDPERFORMANC I THINK ................... YOU LOSE.
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THOSE RUNNERS WERE JUNK EVEN WITHOUT THE MARK I NEVER INSTALLED THESE I HAVE 3 OTHER PAIR ASK DAVID0583.....
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and how could you not notice that !!!!!!!!!!
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THAT WAS THE PICTURE FROM MY AD, YOU SEE IT YOU SAW IT YOU BOUGHT IT THEN TOLD PAYPAL A LIE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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This was too warn people about you not too show off your tonka collection.
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BYE BYE LOSER LOGGIN OFF BEFORE I GET PISSED AND WANNA COME TALK IN PERSON.
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MY TONKA COLLECTION , YOU WISH. I HAVE RECEIPTS FOR MORE THAN YOU WILL MAKE IN YOUR LIFETIME.
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I used to work on heavy equipment like yours all day buddy. You could easily trade all of that in, and maybe get a fully furnished double wide in NY. You're at this moment keeping this thread at the top. Not them.
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OH OK calamitascamaro , so your father was a piano tuner and your an operator ????
SO you operate and you know what someone would buy a machine for if SOMEONE had to sell IN THIS ECONOMY, well I have money, no matter what happens with this shitty economy, yes even in this **** I made over 55 thousand dollars in the last few months and would see why some one like you would sell everything to buy a double wide mobile home ,well good luck with that , my father used to sell them in his mobile home park HERE IN FLORIDA SINCE 1970 !!!!!!!
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THAT WAS THE PICTURE FROM MY AD, YOU SEE IT YOU SAW IT YOU BOUGHT IT THEN TOLD PAYPAL A LIE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
um that is my thumb, remember you had a small picture that you deleted all the posts you had for item for sale. Thanks again sir another ttt .
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OH OK calamitascamaro , so your father was a piano tuner and your an operator ????
SO you operate and you know what someone would buy a machine for if SOMEONE had to sell IN THIS ECONOMY, well I have money, no matter what happens with this shitty economy, yes even in this **** I made over 55 thousand dollars in the last few months and would see why some one like you would sell everything to buy a double wide mobile home ,well good luck with that , my father used to sell them in his mobile home park HERE IN FLORIDA SINCE 1970 !!!!!!!
I was going to try and decipher that, and hopefully glean an actual message from it. Then, I realized something. Not only do I not care what you have to say, but you're a proven liar. Pathetic. Have a good day man.


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