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Old 09-22-2009, 08:07 PM   #1
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I need help with my Top! (Pics)

The top functions well, but I think it could function better, the car is an 88 ASC IROC, I can tell that there are things wrong, but need some pics of the RIGHT way that the top goes together, before I can go about fixing it.

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This is the bottom of the rear of the top, the part that latches down to the car. I assume that theres supposed to be some sort of Gasket, or seal here?



This is on the passenger side of the rear of the top, where most of the folding mechanism is housed, there are two threaded holes here, with nothing threaded into them.



Around the same part of the previous picture, Is this supposed to be threaded in further?



And there is one of these on both sides of the top, right behind the windows, I cant find where they go, but they seem to serve a purpose.



If anyone has pictures of these areas on their vert that are the way they're supposed to be, I'de be grateful, Thanks!
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Old 09-22-2009, 11:05 PM   #2
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Re: I need help with my Top! (Pics)

oh man why do you have a hold on top of the door ?? I would go take some pics of mine but it is RAININg bad outsie and i have it covered .. I will take pics tomorrow of the sections your asking if the weather is good.
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oh man why do you have a hold on top of the door ?? I would go take some pics of mine but it is RAININg bad outsie and i have it covered .. I will take pics tomorrow of the sections your asking if the weather is good.
I'm not sure what you mean about the door? But, please do get some pics if you don't mind. Ide appreciate it.
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Old 09-23-2009, 07:20 PM   #4
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Re: I need help with my Top! (Pics)

Ive been searching, but cant seem to find any pictures close to what I need.

Need some pics, Thanks!
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Old 09-23-2009, 08:35 PM   #5
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Re: I need help with my Top! (Pics)

i'm pretty sure thats supposed to be threaded almost all the way in dont want it to pull out and strip something the weatherstripping slides into the metal lip on the bottom of the back here are some cell pics no camera here

as far as that strap goes i am in the dark about it mine has the plastic bolt shaped thing which i guess ur missing but as to where it attaches i have no idea i hope someoneo knows

btw the seat is sitting in car backwards not to confuse... iut's so the passenger can warn if someone sneaking up from behind j/k
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Re: I need help with my Top! (Pics)

sorry I meant to say "HOLe" on the top side of your door on the last pic... if you go straight up from the key hole there is a hole on your door .. strange. BUT hey its still Raining down here and its is Cold !!!! burrrr I mean its cold for us tropical people .. tomorrow is my last day at work then I am off .. I will get you some more pics if you want .. or if you are satisfied with the member before me on his pics.. let me know
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yep cold and raining here too what do u know about that strap thing that both of us have hanging
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Old 09-24-2009, 02:11 AM   #8
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sorry I meant to say "HOLe" on the top side of your door on the last pic...
that hole is for the spoiler extension; found on '87 and early '88 verts

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Old 09-24-2009, 11:40 AM   #9
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Re: I need help with my Top! (Pics)

Thanks for the pics, but it looks different than mine?

I tightened that bolt down further, it was loose, and wobbly and would have eventually fallen out.

I noticed on my 2nd picture that the rear bow that runs across the rear window, was bolted up too high, only utilizing one bolth hole, so I took that bolt down, and slid it down. I think I am going to have to find a vert locally so I can scavenge bolts and seals and stuff off of it...

And yes, that hole is for the spoiler extension
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Old 09-24-2009, 01:11 PM   #10
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Re: I need help with my Top! (Pics)

i think mine is a later 88 although it has the early style latches i noticed it was a little diff than urs no word on the strap yet anyone
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Old 09-25-2009, 11:04 PM   #11
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Re: I need help with my Top! (Pics)

The first pic does show a missing seal....I bought mine at Steele Rubber in NC for around $120, I think Hawks has them too, but they may be higher. My top is brand new and works great, I'll get you some photos of the areas you need, just let me know.

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Old 09-26-2009, 01:30 AM   #12
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Re: I need help with my Top! (Pics)

yeah you will probably have to drill and heli coil the pivot bolt mine did that too but I used different bolts and then found someone that would pat the top and got the side pieces but my car has sat for 6 years now and I still have those side pieces in the box.
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Old 09-26-2009, 09:12 AM   #13
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Re: I need help with my Top! (Pics)

The pivot bolt ended up threading back in, which is good.

Z-man, if you can, please do grab some pics.
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Re: I need help with my Top! (Pics)

I am thinking about making mine different so there will be a bearing in the pivot part.
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Old 09-29-2009, 06:05 PM   #15
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Re: I need help with my Top! (Pics)

Here's a pic of the area you had pictured (I think), mine has a spring



Pic#2 shows where that strap goes... goes under the seal (which you are missing) and bolts near the main pivot


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Re: I need help with my Top! (Pics)

Cool, thanks for the pictures. Ive seen another earlier camaro vert (86) that also didnt have that spring or little bracket on the bolt, I wonder if thats just a later vert model part? Ive got to see if my strap goes to that point, I need to find another vert at a u-pull it so I can scavenge all that I need.
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hmmmm, my pic links went down...are they working now? I think there are differences between 1987 (your top) and mine (1992), but hopefully that helps ....John
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ive looked mine over twice and i cant find that place where that strap connects i'm thinking my top may have either been replaced or mine goes to a diff location than urs z thanks for the pic sry for the hijack
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z thanks for the pic sry for the hijack
No problem...that's what we are here for....I wish I could get better pics, they are hard to see with the headliner in. There is a top difference in the pre 90 cars, I guess the tops are the same for the 90-93. Good luck and let me know if you need any other pics
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