AE 165 which have most impact?
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AE 165 which have most impact?
Looking at AE and playing with them it is hard to see any difference good/bad. I have not made big swings maybe to see impact. Only thing that I think helped was the #1-8 pulse vs %BPW width table
There are 6 AE tables. I understand what they mean (except 1) and what they are trying to do but it seems they overlap or are duplictae so wondering form experience which ones are easier to tune with for some impact on BOG VS TIRE squeal on pedal stomp, LOL
AE %BPW Factor vs Aync pulse this is 1-8 cels with 3.98% as the max I assume this is 8 pulses or pump shots with % strength in each one. makes sense.
# AE pulses vs coolant temp. This allows you to enter more then 8? So what gives. Mine are all 12 except for 176-208 18 and 16. I moved up and down didn't seem to do much. what if I have 12 does this mean the first 8 pulses are controlled above?
AE factor vs coolant temp? this goes down as temps go up. This mean as temp goes up less fuel is needed. probably little impact to change AE here ?
LV8 AE Factor vs Delta LV8 this one makes most sense. So the more I change the loud petal the more fuel I add. My factors go up from .19 to .25. But factor of what? I assume ino the first 8 pulses.
LV8 factor and decay vs temp? OK so now we have LV8 temp/factor and pulse factors. I think these tables might be the most impact but little unclear. My % decay goes up as temps goes up makes sense. My AE factor goes down as as temps goes. Meaning less fuel as temp increases? Again ok.
But am I reading betwene the lines and the formulas. That the Pulses control the pump shot qty and duration to impact the feel of the response to the pedal?
The LV8 tables control the size of the pump shot and therefore the AFR during the AE?
So I can change LV8 to adjust the AFR during AE to be at the right range say 13.5-14 range then if I bog down during WOT stomp or something I edit pulses?
so what is with the 1-8 pulses VS the table of pulses being more then 8?
There are 6 AE tables. I understand what they mean (except 1) and what they are trying to do but it seems they overlap or are duplictae so wondering form experience which ones are easier to tune with for some impact on BOG VS TIRE squeal on pedal stomp, LOL
AE %BPW Factor vs Aync pulse this is 1-8 cels with 3.98% as the max I assume this is 8 pulses or pump shots with % strength in each one. makes sense.
# AE pulses vs coolant temp. This allows you to enter more then 8? So what gives. Mine are all 12 except for 176-208 18 and 16. I moved up and down didn't seem to do much. what if I have 12 does this mean the first 8 pulses are controlled above?
AE factor vs coolant temp? this goes down as temps go up. This mean as temp goes up less fuel is needed. probably little impact to change AE here ?
LV8 AE Factor vs Delta LV8 this one makes most sense. So the more I change the loud petal the more fuel I add. My factors go up from .19 to .25. But factor of what? I assume ino the first 8 pulses.
LV8 factor and decay vs temp? OK so now we have LV8 temp/factor and pulse factors. I think these tables might be the most impact but little unclear. My % decay goes up as temps goes up makes sense. My AE factor goes down as as temps goes. Meaning less fuel as temp increases? Again ok.
But am I reading betwene the lines and the formulas. That the Pulses control the pump shot qty and duration to impact the feel of the response to the pedal?
The LV8 tables control the size of the pump shot and therefore the AFR during the AE?
So I can change LV8 to adjust the AFR during AE to be at the right range say 13.5-14 range then if I bog down during WOT stomp or something I edit pulses?
so what is with the 1-8 pulses VS the table of pulses being more then 8?
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Re: AE 165 which have most impact?
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/diy-...nrichment.html
Read that, and it will be all clear as mud.............
Read that, and it will be all clear as mud.............
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Re: AE 165 which have most impact?
LOL thanks. I will try...
Well as a quick test. adjusted the %bpw table VS aysnc 1-8 pulses I had 3.98 in first 3 then 3.5 then 2.5 then 2 in last 3.
and my AE vs Load 0 was 12% and upped to 14% my others I left alone they were 18,25,30,30
So out the gate I spun both tires from dead stop. mid throttle was much improved but from a roll to WOT it still felt weak slight bog
Then I tweaked same tables I lowered the %bpw down in the middle range form 3.98 to 3.5 then 2.5 to 2s' and I upped the %AE vs load I upped the 0 cell to 16 and the 64 to 21
now it made a difference, the dead stopped squealed and pulled even harder but from a roll it immediately bogged at WOT I had to let off then press again.
so my results tell me these 2 tables have a big impact.
AE load table at 0 seems good for the strong pedal feel from launch.
The 64-128 seem like mid throttle roll stomp
The Pulse Table (not sure if AE table yet) I seems to effect the fuel loading more and the bog/lean feeling after the RPM start building. Sort of the pump shot profile at all RPM. It seems the faster you can load up and the feather out the pulses the better off you will be. This will allow a strong pull probably a little lean before the PE kicks
Well as a quick test. adjusted the %bpw table VS aysnc 1-8 pulses I had 3.98 in first 3 then 3.5 then 2.5 then 2 in last 3.
and my AE vs Load 0 was 12% and upped to 14% my others I left alone they were 18,25,30,30
So out the gate I spun both tires from dead stop. mid throttle was much improved but from a roll to WOT it still felt weak slight bog
Then I tweaked same tables I lowered the %bpw down in the middle range form 3.98 to 3.5 then 2.5 to 2s' and I upped the %AE vs load I upped the 0 cell to 16 and the 64 to 21
now it made a difference, the dead stopped squealed and pulled even harder but from a roll it immediately bogged at WOT I had to let off then press again.
so my results tell me these 2 tables have a big impact.
AE load table at 0 seems good for the strong pedal feel from launch.
The 64-128 seem like mid throttle roll stomp
The Pulse Table (not sure if AE table yet) I seems to effect the fuel loading more and the bog/lean feeling after the RPM start building. Sort of the pump shot profile at all RPM. It seems the faster you can load up and the feather out the pulses the better off you will be. This will allow a strong pull probably a little lean before the PE kicks
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Re: AE 165 which have most impact?
That read confirmed my test as well. Applys to $6E as well tables are almost the same.
The way I see the LV8 coolant decay and factors they are more for tuning the based tune. IE if AE is too rich/lean acorss the board or vs different degrees. ten leave it laone. Probably leave it as stock to start with.
Then the First pulse 1-8 I would adjust initially for that right feel and launch
AE% vs load for more tuning say more fuel from launch vs mid throttle.
I think after this round of tuning I am about done to just cruise and wait to get a WB in because otherwise I will pull my hair out with these little changes that seem random between 1-3 BLM points and a 1 degree here or there of knock.
The way I see the LV8 coolant decay and factors they are more for tuning the based tune. IE if AE is too rich/lean acorss the board or vs different degrees. ten leave it laone. Probably leave it as stock to start with.
Then the First pulse 1-8 I would adjust initially for that right feel and launch
AE% vs load for more tuning say more fuel from launch vs mid throttle.
I think after this round of tuning I am about done to just cruise and wait to get a WB in because otherwise I will pull my hair out with these little changes that seem random between 1-3 BLM points and a 1 degree here or there of knock.
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