ChevyLuva3

With crooks roaming around out there, and me being not one bit secure I need some security in my life.

How should I protect my car from break in, or from being stolen?

The steering wheel lock bar thing?

That new brake lock thing, that locks onto your brake?

Or a security system with alarm?

I am really thinking of a security alarm system, one that shuts off the starter and all that good stuff to keep my car in place. I really need a good one. I was thinking maybe that one from Crutchfield that they advertise, or is there one better? Cobra? OR some type of alarm, I really need a good one, thanks a lot, Tom.

tyty49

I own a car alarm and that helps, I think. However this is expensive. I'm also in the process of wiring up a hidden kill switch. I've seen some people link it to the fuel and distributer- but I'm wiring mine up to the Neutral Safty Switch. This will be a hidden switch- where I have yet to decide.

Hop that helps!
Tyler

2vmodular

On top of helping you keep your car where you parked it, car alarms also help deter theft of your vehicle contents. You can acquire fully functional car alarms from ebay for under $50, but you'll have to do your own install work. Adding a hidden kill switch on top of the alarm further enhances security.

Wiring color codes for thirdgen f-body alarm installations are avaliable at:

http://www.p71interceptor.com/thirdgen/alarminfo

HamSpiced

ok heres something i know relativly something about...

the kill switch... i went and i bought a large button ignition momentary switch. then a piece of lexon about 1/4 inch thick and i cut it in the shape of a pedal.. if you look under your dash look for two wires that are very small that start up into your steering column and come down into a small plug and come out two slightly bigger wires. these are some sort of ignition wires(this may be on just my car cause i have these little chips in my keys that are supposed to deter theft as well) anyway splice your momentary switch into one of these wires. use the larger of the set. then place your switch behind our carpet all the way to the left behind the "dead" pedal area.. now when you start your car you have to push down on the dead pedal area to push the momentary switch to turn on the car. its kinda cool

tip two

go to a large grocery store or drug store and in the pain relief isle there is a box with an annoying little blinking red light. buy the stuff(or in my case steal the red light) and just tape it somewhere on your interior... looks liek a real alarm.

tip three

i saw someone on here did this so i did it. get a stock radio one of those big ol acdelco ones, and take off the faceplate and all the switches and glue the switches on. then just place over your nice stereo when you leave to give the illusion of a stock system.

hope it helps.

nedry

Hi everybody, new guy over here. PLEASE bear with me, I'm still learning the basics of automotive technology. (Okay, I'll admit it. For me, changing a battery and getting the car to start was a major achievement.) If I blunder into the usual newbie mistakes, I apologize in advance, but please try to remember I'm still rather wet behind the ears here.

I was just wondering if it's possible with an auto transmission to rig some kind of cipherlock tranny lock, so that if you don't punch in the right combination, the tranny doesn't move out of "park"?

And another question: if you have both a remote starter and a kill switch, how would you rig the remote to bypass the kill switch?

I'd probably better pipe down and let the experts have the floor back now...

Have a good one, everybody.

2vmodular

Most recent general motors vehicles have a safety feature where the gear selector cannot be shifted out of park unless the brake pedal is depressed. Should not be too difficult to find a wrecked donor vehicle with a console shifter to acquire parts from.

A keypad is going to be a major pain to disarm every time you want to shift out of park, you'd probably be best off with a hidden floor mounted switch instead. A pre-made product with the features that you're after is avaliable at:

http://www.tremcopoliceproducts.com

Believe it or not, some police departments have a serious problem with theives stealing their cruisers while they leave them idling with the keys in the ignition.

An extra relay can be wired so that it bypasses the kill switch while the remote starter is active.

My favorite kill switch is the mechanical hoodlock, as soon as you lock the hood it also kills the ignition or starter. Difficult to defeat since the electrical splices are under the locked hood of the car and you'll have to cut an armored steel cable to open the hood. Setup was popular back in the 1980's and is not something a theive encounters much anymore.

nedry

Thanks for the info, 2vmodular. I was thinking that since some of the custom console work I eventually plan to do involved a 32-button keypad on the transmission hump, I might as well put some of those buttons to good use. (I usually do a lot of long-term planning so I know exactly where to invest my $$$ before I even drop a dime on hardware. Heck, I don't even have a license yet...)

Okay, I'll confess. I'm one of THOSE people... a "Knight Rider" enthusiast and aspiring KITT replica builder :lala:

Just figured with all those extra controls, it'd be a shame not to put some of 'em to use... (aside from a few for the planned pistol safe, assuming People's Republic of Washington under Comrade Chairman Locke doesn't ban CCW and firearms before I get a chance to get this machine built).

Anyway, I gotta run. (Oh, the joys of being a starving college student... I gotta spend way too much time on those darn buses for anyone's taste...) Have a good one, everybody.

(Edited 11/26 to fix embarrassing typo... it was after Econ class, so my brain was fried...)

HamSpiced

if your a Kitt rebuilder i suggest you look at the forums for a topic called fingerprint ignition... youll like tha tmuch much better then a 32 button setup.

91BlkRS

i'm not quite sure of the prices, but you could check these out
http://stickdeath.com/frameset.htm lol

you'll have to scroll down to "2002 Anti-Theft Devices" :sillylol:

Morley

Get the "theft deterrant" system from the James Bond movie "For your Eyes Only". It stops theives dead in their tracks.
Really, if someone wants your car badly enough...it is gone.

nedry

Actually, a fully automatic, artificial-intelligence capability in the vehicle (think KITT) would be the ultimate deterrent. There was one episode of "Knight Rider" where a couple of guys were trying to break into KITT and ended up going for the ride of their lives...
I know if I tried to perp GTA on a vehicle and it pulled that, I'd be scared witless (and another ____-less which I'll leave to everybody's very fertile imaginations...)

Too bad full AI is beyond our technological limits right now, and current automated vehicle control systems are so primitive... (A guy working on his Masters at Virginia Tech wrote his thesis on a simple automated vehicle control system. You can check it out at http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/theses/ava...d/schlegel.pdf , but it's a 900k file, and a hardcopy is 130 pages.)

Later, everybody.

89firechicken

i'm almost sure honda made a robot that can do all kinds of things. and i would consider that a small step in the AI world

89firechicken

just read your sig what do you mean to forgive is NOT STRATIGIC COMMAND POLICY. I DONT UNDERSTAND

nedry

Re my sig:
In the old days Before The Earth Cooled, Strategic Air Command was the portion of the United States Air Force responsible for long-range bombing and nuclear deterrence. (Read: they got to play with a toy that I find almost as interesting as and more valuable to national security than my planned modified 3rd-gen: B-52 bombers. ) SAC was real big on pointing out what was and wasn't Command policy. And you wouldn't be real big on forgiving, either, if being called on to do your job meant the ICBMs were on their way...
As for my adoption of the saying, it's a B-52 enthusiast thing...

Re AI:
When I say AI, I envision a system that'd be the equal of a human driver, preferably the equal of an entire human mind. I want to build a car that eventually earns itself a doctorate... something that, from the other end of a phone line, you'd never have even the slightest suspicion it's not human...

89firechicken

yeah i know what SAC is. also just to top it off i work right across the street from stratcom which back in the day was know as sac.

Morley

I haven't heard that quote in a couple dozen years. Had some of the best times in SAC. And the BUFF was and is the ONLY strategic bomber worth a hoot.

nedry

Amen to that, sir. I had the privilege of being one of the few non-Boeing or Air Force (either current or retired) people at the B-52 50th Anniversary party in Wichita, even being granted the opportunity to offer a few thoughts on B-52 upgrades to a couple senior folks in the B-52 program.

Anyway, I'd better let this thread get back to topic.

Happy Turkey Day, everyone, and be safe out there. I'll be offline 'til Monday...

Later.

HamSpiced

what was this post about again??? i still say go with a hidden kill switch.