JCheves

I am using the 8013's and i should know something in a week or two.

ZONES89RS

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Sweet, we need someone to let us know how they fit, i abandon the BBC and got a 6.0 in there now and it is a beast, but i still would like to have done the BBC but i can find a 6.0 all day for cheap, stuff in a cam and use the stock headers and get 500 HP pretty easy, so i am happy with it.

killerkev

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have the 8013 s on mine and had a problem hitting the motor mount on the driver side--and the typical clearance prob on the pass side- used aftermarket dirt-track style solid mounts and still had to shim pieces of plate to get the height right--was looking for a solid mount anyway. the 8012s are just too small on the primarys. wish the 8013s had a bigger collector but oh well... the killer

ZONES89RS

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Pictures?

Atilla the Fun

Why is this thread so long, and why are we playing with anything but the Hookers made for this swap? It ain't worth it just to save what, $200? It's less hassle and headache, less blood, sweat and busted knuckles, to just save 2 extra paychecks and use what was designed for this swap.

Atilla the Fun

Otherwise we soon won't have that option.

Air_Adam

I used the Hookers on my swap (that just fired for the first time last night) and while they are intimidating to look at, they are actually a well engineered set... I can reach ALL the plugs with a ratchet and deep socket from the top, the tubes don't interfere with plug wires, there is TONS of room between the tubes and the block/oil pan if you use some type of ministarter.

They are a female dog to install initially, but once they are in place, they are actually an easy set to work around - tuck up to the floor VERY well too... I've never seen a set of longtubes on ANY car that fit as snugly under the floor without interfering as these do.

booboosean

Agreed......this is my thread. The whole thing was an experiment to look for an easier, more economical way to put a bbc in a third gen. It turned out to be not-so-easy, but was an adventure. I love to fabricate and weld...try to do things not done before. I've been enjoying my car with the bbc for some time now. Will probably replace it with an LSX motor in the next few years though.

Good luck guys!
Sean

ZONES89RS

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Because there are some folks that they will not work for. Like myself, my sub frames will not allow the use of a header that goes along the ridiculous routing that the hookers use so they are not an option for some.

Tony V

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I am installing the Hookers right now. They have been a major pain in the gluteus maximus. I have a low profile 7 quart pan and where the pan sticks out on the sides one of the tubes on the driver's side is rubbing. The directions state that the headers can be installed without removing the engine. That has not been my experience thus far. I had to pull the engine completely out of the bay and then wire the headers in place, then lower the engine back in. Plug access looks good and there seems to be plenty of room on the passenger side. The other issue might me my subframe connectors. The collector exits right in from of them.

92 BBC Z

92 BBC Z

Yeah, with solid mounts, kick-out pan and two(2) pair of sfc's, it takes a little bit of gumption to make it fit, but no BadAss car is easily built. If there's a will(with skill's) then there's a way.

92 BBC Z

By the way, I was able to install them with the motor in place, from the bottom, but the front tire's removed, and jacked WAY up off of the ground, then sort of 'twist' them in place. Still took a substaintial amount of messaging(read hammering&trimming) to fit without touching everywhere.

t-top havoc

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EDIT__

Never mind

Daz

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Wow this thread is still up!!

I just started on my second BBC swap armed with what I learned the last time.A little bigger motor but lighter motor this time.

As for the Lemmons headers. I dont think you can use wide wheels in the front if you want to use those headers(the one where you need to cut the wheel wells)

92 BBC Z

Dan Lemons custom makes headers to fit.

killerkev

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you can either beat the **** out of the floor or cut it and weld it up- the choice is yours-my motor had the stockmotor mounts out of a bbc truck--the 8013 patriots hit themount that bolted to the block-. the big cupped ones.went to day motorsports and orderered some dirt track style motor mounts and stillhad to put some aluminum shims under them to clear the pan.got my 496 rotating assy ordered from ohio crank-- ask for scott-- and will have some pics asap --the killer

duval

This is a good thread I have learned a lot of things. I am thinking of doing a BBC swap in my 89 iroc.

92 BBC Z

Go for it! Sky's the limit. Nuthin to it, but to do it. Both feet and head first, jump.

vindeezl

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Anyone else have pics of H8013 install?

Thinking of ordering these soon

iluvmy91camaro

So after being on my Summit list for a year and a half, I just finally got around to buying my coated H8012's. I'm not sure if its been stated in the thread or not, I read it a while back and am not reading it all over, but I'm running the stock k member and solid mounts. After trying to drop em in real quick to see the issues it looks like, in my case, that the passenger side isn't going to need any mods. I might massage the tranny hump a little to make things easier down the road and the drivers side has no clearance issues whatsoever. The ONLY thing on the drivers side is that they come awfully close to the oil filter. I was planning on running a remote mount filer anyways but had the filter in the stock location for startup purposes. I'll be working on it tomorrow and will bring the good camera and get some pics up.

edit: I didn't realize this thread was inactive for a few months. sry

Tony V

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Sure can. Starting at only $1200.

92 BBC Z

And worth every penny.

AlkyIROC

There's a set of BBC third gen large tube headers still on Ebay with collector mufflers. $600 is a smoking deal but don't expect them to be a direct bolt in for street use.

dozerjoe

i have the h8013 headers on my car. i sent bigzeke some pics but if anyone else wants some send me your email.

84L69Z28

i'd like to see how they fit please. thanks. james

Tony V

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Here's a brand new set for $400...

Link

Bidding ends: Apr 17, 2011 17:09:43 PDT

ryans01z28

has anyone put a 455 oldsmobile motor in a 83 v6 camaro and put headers on it??? i now own one with a 455 motor in it and the manifolds are all cracked and i want to put headers on. any suggestions on which ones would be good to use without to much moding?

stage20

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odd combo you have, but with the head on a 455, im not sure what is out there that would fit the 3rd gen chassis. probably going to have to be custom.

does anyone make a conversion header for a 455 in a unibody car? id look into those. most cars with headers to fit the 455 are frame cars, which wont be forgiving to the small subframe rail on the 3rd gen.

mtac454

I'm in the same boat you were in and I want to know what exactly did you have to do to modify them?

mtac454

Go for it. I have a 454 in my 89 rs

onefast85

i had the hookers and they fit ok....the next time i went to a local chassis shop..headers still exit where the hookers did,2 tubes on each side go through the fenderwell...2 1/4 tubes with 4inch collectors,dual 4inch exhaust to the rearend with magnum mufflers and turndowns.

cost me 1500 plus 300 for the header coating..they fit so well its unreal...

i have southside lift bars so there is no torque arm in my way.

1983cameroman

i had hooker sold them decided to keep bbc giong to use 1 7/8 pat headers this time ithink hookers too much money i think i may just clip off where reducer bolts on and weld 3 inch tube come by trans with 3" bullet mufflers if i race this car will leave mufflers on

1983cameroman

6 works good terry on the scoop that is

onebadass88

im doing a 632BBC in my 88 and i have a Spohn K-member and i had a custom built set of headers made for it. the engine is not in yet and i dont have pics but the guy built me a set of 2 3/8in primary tubes and 4.5in collector headers for it and they fit great. the tubular k-member make a world of difference.

BigS1975

Good thread.I have a set of Ed Quay headers on my 468 and they fit like a glove.Stock Kmember with solid motor mounts.2 1/4 primaries and 4in collectors.This is on a street car.

85z28kid

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Wow!!! Thanks for the pics big! I'm installing my big block tomorrow with these headers and I haven't been able to find anyone who has installed pics.

Thanks a lot!

P.s a big from the side of the car would be great I wanna see how low they hang.

BigS1975

They hang about 2 1/2 to 3 inches lower than the trans pan.At ride height they are about 4 inches off the ground.

1BADRZ28

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They hang low. Quay doesn't design anything for street use. I'd actually like to see that company start building headers for aftermarket suspensions. No one uses his modified k member anymore anyways. With the aftermarket k members installed, there is plenty of room to build large tube headers with more friendly designs.

85z28kid

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Yea but will they look o so nice under the hood. Any steering shaft mods big? Or any other mods? Wanna drop this bitch in today

Isn't a racecar just a badass street car?... Lol

BigS1975

No mods at all.The top of my collectors hug the floors pretty tight.I'm also using a PAracing trans crossmsmber.I bought mine used so they were already fitted to a running bigblock car.The worst part was getting the collectors on.And you have to use a CSR mini starter.Most of the other starters are too long and will hit the #4 primary tube.I did have to dent I think #7 tube to clear the Kmember.Just test fit,and make adjustments where you need to.You might have to remove the steering shaft to get the left header in.I had to.And if you really want to make life easy getting the left one in take the booster/mastercylinder out.The right side was a peice of cake.Slid right in.Heres a pic of the cross member I'm running.

85z28kid

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Thanks a bunch big! I was kinda leery if thru would work with the stock steering shaft. Starter clearance shouldn't be a huge deal cuz I'm running a 153 tooth flywheel so my mini starter should fit without to much hassle. I'll dent where need be.

Also you should cut your front subframe off and run rails. A bunch of people have done it. It offers SO much more room. I think I'm Gunna cut off my evac tubes since I'm running mufflers since it's a street car and people say they don't work with street mufflers.

Also let's see some pics off the backhalf interested in doing this to mine.

mw66nova

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my car would lay on top of those ed quay headers...those are terrible....

85z28kid

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Lowered cars are obsolete in Michigan anyways so my car isn't lowered but only an inch but I'm Gunna get some trick springs so it should bring it back up.

I don't really have an opinion on lowered cars... Yea they look nice but are impractical for a daily driver. Id rather not have a lowered car and have to worry about every bump in the world. I like to drive my car spirited so entrances come up fast so I don't wanna have to worry about them.

1BADRZ28

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with a 27.5" front tire they aren't that bad. Still low though, my guess is that mine will be smashed this year. The front tires are finally comming up with the 60's hovering around the low 1.2x.

85z28kid

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Yea coming back down from a wheels up situation I could see them getting smashed. But for an unlowered street car I think they should. Be fine

BigS1975

The evac tubes will work with certain mufflers.I'm running bullets for a while.I've heard single chamber flowmasters dont cause anyproblems either.
PM me your email ady and I can send some pics to you.

Big454blockchevy

Well, back to looking at what headers I'm going to install for the 498. I have some brand new c3 corvette headers(hedman # 68090) with big primaries in the garage . I'm thinking of maybe modifying those to "make them fit" on the camaro. Don't even know if it's possible but I definitely don't want some small primary header choking the engine.

85z28kid

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go ed quays and you wont go back lol.

as far as headers go you can just buy some mandrels bends and redo the tubes you need to but mandrel bends can get exoensive fast deoneding on your skill to make tubes.

also making the tubes seperate make them 100 times easier to take on and off cuz i dont think my ed quays would come out from underneath in one piece.

RoboYogi

i went with the h8012s on my 496, they might be a bit small but i bought them when it was still a factory headed 461. i had the typical issues with the drivers side mount(2 minutes with a cut off wheel solved it). i had a much bigger problem with the passenger side because i'm running dart heads with raised exhaust ports. hammering wasnt quite enough for me with the frame rail, so i cut reliefs in the floor and frame rail. also i used a truck pan with the stock k member by cutting an an inch or two out and useing the peice i cut off to fab a cap and welded it over the slot.
the car isnt on the road yet but i'm hopeing i'll have time to finish it before port huron michigans cruise night a month from now.