T56 with Long Tubes and duals (duels..;-)
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Car: 1985 Camaro Z28, VIN F
Engine: 427 sbc, HSR
Transmission: T-56, self rebuilt 700+ hp
Axle/Gears: Moser 12bolt, 3.42 trutrac
T56 with Long Tubes and duals (duels..;-)
I fabbed up dual pipes off my hooker longtubes (2210s) along the
T56 using the SPD trans crossmember. (Longtube T56 Swap CrossmemberSkulte Performance Designs)
The duals had cutouts on them and then Y'd back to a 3" single over
the axle and out thru a dynomax.
Exhaust is really quiet on the street, opens up nicely when pressed.
I took the car to they dyno yesterday, only picked up 5% through
the open dual dumps, versus the single 3" full exh thru the muffler.. A
dual exhaust with longer pipes won't even do this well.. This is with a
427 smallblock pushing 420 rwhp thru the muffler.
Everyone working so hard to put duels on 12+sec cars, might want to
rethink.. Just throw the LongTube xmem on and a Ypipe with a 3"
"standard" exh back, and don't lose any ground clearance..
YMMV
mike
T56 using the SPD trans crossmember. (Longtube T56 Swap CrossmemberSkulte Performance Designs)
The duals had cutouts on them and then Y'd back to a 3" single over
the axle and out thru a dynomax.
Exhaust is really quiet on the street, opens up nicely when pressed.
I took the car to they dyno yesterday, only picked up 5% through
the open dual dumps, versus the single 3" full exh thru the muffler.. A
dual exhaust with longer pipes won't even do this well.. This is with a
427 smallblock pushing 420 rwhp thru the muffler.
Everyone working so hard to put duels on 12+sec cars, might want to
rethink.. Just throw the LongTube xmem on and a Ypipe with a 3"
"standard" exh back, and don't lose any ground clearance..
YMMV
mike
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Originally Posted by 85MikeTPI
I fabbed up dual pipes off my hooker longtubes (2210s) along the
T56 using the SPD trans crossmember. (Longtube T56 Swap CrossmemberSkulte Performance Designs)
The duals had cutouts on them and then Y'd back to a 3" single over
the axle and out thru a dynomax.
Exhaust is really quiet on the street, opens up nicely when pressed.
I took the car to they dyno yesterday, only picked up 5% through
the open dual dumps, versus the single 3" full exh thru the muffler.. A
dual exhaust with longer pipes won't even do this well.. This is with a
427 smallblock pushing 420 rwhp thru the muffler.
Everyone working so hard to put duels on 12+sec cars, might want to
rethink.. Just throw the LongTube xmem on and a Ypipe with a 3"
"standard" exh back, and don't lose any ground clearance..
YMMV
mike
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T56 using the SPD trans crossmember. (Longtube T56 Swap CrossmemberSkulte Performance Designs)
The duals had cutouts on them and then Y'd back to a 3" single over
the axle and out thru a dynomax.
Exhaust is really quiet on the street, opens up nicely when pressed.
I took the car to they dyno yesterday, only picked up 5% through
the open dual dumps, versus the single 3" full exh thru the muffler.. A
dual exhaust with longer pipes won't even do this well.. This is with a
427 smallblock pushing 420 rwhp thru the muffler.
Everyone working so hard to put duels on 12+sec cars, might want to
rethink.. Just throw the LongTube xmem on and a Ypipe with a 3"
"standard" exh back, and don't lose any ground clearance..
YMMV
mike
Attachment 115424
5% on 525 BHP is almost 30 horsepower. How can you say that is insignificant? I would say 1-2% corked would be a good number, if you can pull your exhaust off and pick up 3 tenths you aren't impressing anyone.
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Originally Posted by unknown_host
An ideal exhaust will make nearly the same power corked as uncorked, one of the magazines did a dual setup a while back that had 1% loss over open headers and still made 93 db.
5% on 525 BHP is almost 30 horsepower. How can you say that is insignificant? I would say 1-2% corked would be a good number, if you can pull your exhaust off and pick up 3 tenths you aren't impressing anyone.
5% on 525 BHP is almost 30 horsepower. How can you say that is insignificant? I would say 1-2% corked would be a good number, if you can pull your exhaust off and pick up 3 tenths you aren't impressing anyone.
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Car: 1989 Iroc Z L98
Originally Posted by likeenz24
This is why he installed electric cut outs. Just a flip of a switch= open headers....Plus its gotta be quieter than duals that are dummped before the axle....
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Originally Posted by unknown_host
If you run at a track that has a db limit or you streetrace, open headers aren't going to be the ideal setup.
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Originally Posted by likeenz24
I agree....We have on db limit around here....I dont think 5% in street race is that big of a deal. Condition for traction are not ideal, so It might actually help...i think Mikes point is that alot of guys think the need duals when a good 3" exhaust will work for most application. It will be quiet and not draw unwanted attention. Plus the "seat of the pants dyno" will not be able to tell 5%
most street motors will even approach the 5%.. The 3" exh and dynomax have a
very nice street rumble, while giving up little performance.. The crossmember allows
the long tubes to flow straight back and not lose ground clearance, then tie into a
Y-pipe to complete the exhaust in 3".
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Car: 1985 Camaro Z28, VIN F
Engine: 427 sbc, HSR
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Axle/Gears: Moser 12bolt, 3.42 trutrac
Originally Posted by onebad82z
Single 3" in/out muffler?
Do you have a Dynomax part#?
Do you have a Dynomax part#?
the single 3" in/out Ultraweld muffler (17220). Others have
used the stock sized 17233 and longer 17235 single in/out
versions also..
The ypipe is a flowmaster Y300400, and a hooker reducer
(11138HKR) and bits/pieces of 3" pipes/bends from the local
autoparts store..
and of course the SPD crossmember.
HTH
mike
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