2 1/2" not enough???
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2 1/2" not enough???
Hi guys, i recently built a 350 with vortec heads, airgap intake, demon 650 and comp xe268.. the exhaust is hooker shorties and hooker y-pipe. if im not mistaken the y-pipe reduces to 2.5 inches, and the rest of my exhaust is also 2.5, and there is a flowmaster out back with stock tail pipes.. my question is, will there be any real gain going from this to a 3" cat back? would there be any gain going any larger than 3"? I really have been considering the hooker cat back, but i dont want to spend any $$ without seeing a difference right now.. thanks in advance
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This from the sticky:
<B>Hooker 2055.</B> Prolly one of the best headers available. 50-state legal. The best part of this header is the y-pipe. 2.5 " mandrel bent, into a 3" pipe. Primaries are large 1 5/8 18g. Problems: collector gets down really small. It could be modified to flow more however. Avg price: </B>$365.00 for the set</B>
I'm very happy with the following set-up: Hooker 2055's (Jeg's 520-2055). Catco high-flow converter (Summit CTO-9118). Hooker catback (Summit HOK-16823HKR). Three inch Y, cat, catback.
By the way, I like the stock look so I used my OEM tail pipes.
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<B>Hooker 2055.</B> Prolly one of the best headers available. 50-state legal. The best part of this header is the y-pipe. 2.5 " mandrel bent, into a 3" pipe. Primaries are large 1 5/8 18g. Problems: collector gets down really small. It could be modified to flow more however. Avg price: </B>$365.00 for the set</B>
I'm very happy with the following set-up: Hooker 2055's (Jeg's 520-2055). Catco high-flow converter (Summit CTO-9118). Hooker catback (Summit HOK-16823HKR). Three inch Y, cat, catback.
By the way, I like the stock look so I used my OEM tail pipes.
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2.5" single is not enough for a stock 305, let alone any 350 thats been played with. Get a 3" exhaust on there and be happy
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Guys, Chris5K did not say that he had 2055s, the setup that I have works well(2460's non air-no smog in FL) I had my shop customize the ypipe to 3" and then went 3" all the way back. I am not saying that less backpressure is better, I am saying that if he has the opportunity to make a 3" system, he has some room to grow, but certainly, he doesn't want to go any smaller than 3" if he has the opportunity.
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Car: 85 Berlinetta F41
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Ok, so i looked up the part #'s for you guys.. the headers are the 2460's
and heres the y specs...
HOK-16767HKR
Y-Pipe Inlet Attachment: 3-bolt flange
Inlet Diameter (in): 3.000 in.
Y-Pipe Outlet Attachment: Slip-fit
Outlet Diameter (in): 2.500 in.
Y-Pipe Material: Steel
Y-Pipe Finish: Aluminized
Oxygen Sensor Bung Included: No
Catalytic Converter Included: No
Gaskets Included: No
Hardware Included: No
Quantity: Sold individually.
Notes: Designed to fit Hooker 2460 Competition headers. Will fit all small block Chevrolet Gen I engine combinations.
So as previously questioned.. would the 3" make a difference? its already bottled down to 2.5" at the y, would it be worthwhile? I cant believe hooker made that damn y 2.5" when the majority of the catbacks are 3"......
and heres the y specs...
HOK-16767HKR
Y-Pipe Inlet Attachment: 3-bolt flange
Inlet Diameter (in): 3.000 in.
Y-Pipe Outlet Attachment: Slip-fit
Outlet Diameter (in): 2.500 in.
Y-Pipe Material: Steel
Y-Pipe Finish: Aluminized
Oxygen Sensor Bung Included: No
Catalytic Converter Included: No
Gaskets Included: No
Hardware Included: No
Quantity: Sold individually.
Notes: Designed to fit Hooker 2460 Competition headers. Will fit all small block Chevrolet Gen I engine combinations.
So as previously questioned.. would the 3" make a difference? its already bottled down to 2.5" at the y, would it be worthwhile? I cant believe hooker made that damn y 2.5" when the majority of the catbacks are 3"......
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If you are talking about the two pipes (off the headers) that merge together being 2.5", then thats pretty adequate for performance. If you are talking about the pipe AFTER the Y being 2.5", then thats really not enough for any kind of performance engine, and you are being held back. 3" would be the way to go there.
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My bad: I thought you were speaking about the 2055's.
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This new engine just feels weird, i was expecting more out of the combo.. and it felt much more torquey with the y-pipe being the only exhaust on it too so ill be putting some more parts on the credit card for the hooker catback...hopefully with good results.. i was thinking a before and after dyno.. well see.
James.. that hooker part# that you posted for the cat back is listed for the 86-92 tpi HO models... is that a dual cat system?
James.. that hooker part# that you posted for the cat back is listed for the 86-92 tpi HO models... is that a dual cat system?
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Adam... yes the rest of my exhaust is the same size as the hooker y-pipe's original outlet.. 2.5" thats why im really hoping my engine could see noticable gains from the upgrade.. and thats why im here to question you guys before i blow almost 300 clams thanks guys
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That 2.5" single is whats choking your engine. You'd see a HUGE gain if you changed it to a real 3" system with 2.5" pipes off the headers. What I mean, is two 2.5" pipes (one on each header) down to a Y-pipe that has a 3" outlet, and hook that up to a catback that uses 3" pipe back to the muffler. That will really get your motor to take its ***** out of its purse
Most of the Y-pipes that have small outlet pipes can be cut in the middle of the Y-collector (where the two header pipes enter) to get a 3" outlet and just have an exhaust shop fab a section of 3" pipe to fit between your catback and the new outlet of your Y-pipe. This is what I had to do with my Hedman headers and Y-pipe. It had 2.25" header pipes and a 2.5" outlet pipe. I cut off the oulet pipe right in the middle of the Y-collector, and it gave me a 3" outlet. I hung my Hooker 3" catback under the car, drove it to an exhaust shop, and had them make me a section out of 3" pipe to replace the 2.5" pipe that I cut off the Y-pipe. Worked great!
Most of the Y-pipes that have small outlet pipes can be cut in the middle of the Y-collector (where the two header pipes enter) to get a 3" outlet and just have an exhaust shop fab a section of 3" pipe to fit between your catback and the new outlet of your Y-pipe. This is what I had to do with my Hedman headers and Y-pipe. It had 2.25" header pipes and a 2.5" outlet pipe. I cut off the oulet pipe right in the middle of the Y-collector, and it gave me a 3" outlet. I hung my Hooker 3" catback under the car, drove it to an exhaust shop, and had them make me a section out of 3" pipe to replace the 2.5" pipe that I cut off the Y-pipe. Worked great!
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actually, i have a collector from flowmaster thats dual 2.5" into 3" .... maybe that will work, ill see if its too big or not... but yeah im definately gonna give this a shot.. id like to dyno it before i get the exhaust just for ***** and giggles