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Old 01-02-2012, 02:22 PM
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Super 10s vs Powersticks

I am really torn between these two. I know if I go flowmaster I am going to go with Super 10s or Super 44s. Both will cost me the same amount of money, and I plan on dumping both before the rear axle. I want a deep mean sound and roaring on full throttle. This will also be with longtube headers. As for the Powersticks I would be using a medium power stick. Anybody have either of these on their 3rd gen? if so your opinion will be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Super 10s vs Powersticks

Right now I am working on true duals but I am not having them dump right before the axle. I don't really want all that heat and exhaust up under my car and I would like some ground clearance.


But to the point I am using Short Powersticks from Classic Chambered Exhaust. Strapped them up to my 86 with a 305 and they sounded amazingly loud and good. Right now they are going in a clean 87 with a clean 350.

So my honest opinion the powersticks are the way to go. Mediums would be better to reduce sound.
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Right now I am working on true duals but I am not having them dump right before the axle. I don't really want all that heat and exhaust up under my car and I would like some ground clearance.


But to the point I am using Short Powersticks from Classic Chambered Exhaust. Strapped them up to my 86 with a 305 and they sounded amazingly loud and good. Right now they are going in a clean 87 with a clean 350.

So my honest opinion the powersticks are the way to go. Mediums would be better to reduce sound.
Ground clearance isn't a big issue for me. I live in the boonies and drive my trans am only a few times a week in the Summer. I am going to angle my downturns outward on a 45 degree angle, but have thought about exiting them before the rear tires.

Do you think the medium powersticks will sound just as mean if they are dumped?
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Ground clearance isn't a big issue for me. I live in the boonies and drive my trans am only a few times a week in the Summer. I am going to angle my downturns outward on a 45 degree angle, but have thought about exiting them before the rear tires.

Do you think the medium powersticks will sound just as mean if they are dumped?

Just make sure they have enough flow going through them and the ought to sound pretty good.

This TD setup has taken me forever and I plan on doing a video once its all done. School starts back tomorrow so there is half as much time to work on it.

And what kinda of crossover are you doing?
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Just make sure they have enough flow going through them and the ought to sound pretty good.

This TD setup has taken me forever and I plan on doing a video once its all done. School starts back tomorrow so there is half as much time to work on it.

And what kinda of crossover are you doing?
I actually didn't want to do a crossover because of the extra money and work. If I do one though I might just do an H since I won't have much room for mufflers and the X.
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I ran a powerstick on my L98...sounded pretty awesome IMO, especially on a mild stock motor like that. On a hotter motor with a little compression and cam, it should sound even better.

The chambered tubes like powersticks give that deep rumble at idle. Flowmasters do that too with the 44's or race single chambers, but powerstick is easier to install... just a big tube that you can stick down the driveshaft tunnel.
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I ran a powerstick on my L98...sounded pretty awesome IMO, especially on a mild stock motor like that. On a hotter motor with a little compression and cam, it should sound even better.

The chambered tubes like powersticks give that deep rumble at idle. Flowmasters do that too with the 44's or race single chambers, but powerstick is easier to install... just a big tube that you can stick down the driveshaft tunnel.
What size powersticks did you run? and did you have problems with the brake and fuel lines, because they run down the inside of the driveshaft tunnel too.
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Re: Super 10s vs Powersticks

I have a medium powerstick on mine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyaFk45nx00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vID83Vn9I2Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I_DcRh1V-o
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What size powersticks did you run? and did you have problems with the brake and fuel lines, because they run down the inside of the driveshaft tunnel too.
Exhaust was aftermarket 3" single running down factory location. I cut the I-pipe section and installed the medium powerstick. Brake and fuel lines are on the driver side while the muffler is near the passenger side so everything is safe.

Duals you may want to wrap the lines or heat sheild them abit.
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Exhaust was aftermarket 3" single running down factory location. I cut the I-pipe section and installed the medium powerstick. Brake and fuel lines are on the driver side while the muffler is near the passenger side so everything is safe.

Duals you may want to wrap the lines or heat sheild them abit.
I am going to go with duals and I don't think they will run too close to the Driveline tunnel. Since I just plan on running them back from the longtube headers.

Thanks a lot for the videos! I haven't been able to find any that weren't filmed with a rock, and the ones I did find had terrible sound quality. I think you might have sold me on these medium powersticks
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You kinda have to run them down the driveshaft tunnel onthese cars with long tubes. What sucks is you have to go partially under the subframe by the transmission crossmember unless you built a custom crossmember to allow pipes to go right next to the tranny like in a T56 manual trans application. But since autos are fatter transmissions at this point, pipes dont have much room. Going under the x-member creates little clearance with the road if your car is lowered at all. Even stock height its tight.

At this point, you are the closest to the fuel lines on the car, but I've run my pipes there before and had no issues.
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You kinda have to run them down the driveshaft tunnel onthese cars with long tubes. What sucks is you have to go partially under the subframe by the transmission crossmember unless you built a custom crossmember to allow pipes to go right next to the tranny like in a T56 manual trans application. But since autos are fatter transmissions at this point, pipes dont have much room. Going under the x-member creates little clearance with the road if your car is lowered at all. Even stock height its tight.

At this point, you are the closest to the fuel lines on the car, but I've run my pipes there before and had no issues.
Yeah, I figured if I did have clearance problems I would just hook up some air shocks to the rear and jack the rear up a few inches. So do you think it would be best to go an x pipe to try and clear the crossmember or true dual? I have thought about going with some shorties instead with a ypipe, but I would really like to go with a set of longtubes.
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X pipe is still true dual..its just a balance tube like an H.

You can run without either of the two if you want. X or H wont change power all that much but WILL change the sound/tone.

If you look up the Dyno Don shorty headers, you can make BIG power with those and dont give up much over longtubes if ANYTHING at all. Really nice system.

And with shortys you can still go true duals, just run down stock location and up over axle or just dump before axle. I run dual 3" down stock exhaust route on my turbo car. Fits well. For a milder build, dual 2.5 will feed 550hp....thats alot of power and 2.5" pipe fits MUCH better than 3"
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X pipe is still true dual..its just a balance tube like an H.

You can run without either of the two if you want. X or H wont change power all that much but WILL change the sound/tone.

If you look up the Dyno Don shorty headers, you can make BIG power with those and dont give up much over longtubes if ANYTHING at all. Really nice system.

And with shortys you can still go true duals, just run down stock location and up over axle or just dump before axle. I run dual 3" down stock exhaust route on my turbo car. Fits well. For a milder build, dual 2.5 will feed 550hp....thats alot of power and 2.5" pipe fits MUCH better than 3"
Yeah, I know it is true dual with a crossover. I am not really worried about power..The reason I am going with longtubes is due to money. Also it is a lot less tube work for me unless I buy a premade y pipe and everything.

I have decided to go with 2.5" as well. Although the 2.5" Powerstick muffler is still the same size as the 3" powerstick right? 3.5" on the outside?
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I think its about the same size on the outside...atleast 3" probably closer to 3.5" I had the 3" and it was about 3.5" OD

What long tubes you thinkign about getting? Most cost 400+ which is same as a set of shorties with y pipe in some cases. Uncoated ofcourse.
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I think its about the same size on the outside...atleast 3" probably closer to 3.5" I had the 3" and it was about 3.5" OD

What long tubes you thinkign about getting? Most cost 400+ which is same as a set of shorties with y pipe in some cases. Uncoated ofcourse.
I plan on going with these Hedman Hedders 68460. They are listed on Summitracing for 175.
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wow that is cheap! 18ga tho, alittle thin. May rust out quicker than 16 ga. But for the price cant really beat it.

Got the crappy ball and socket flange. I'd Vband than thing or slip fit for ease of installation. To make a connector to it, you'd have to buy a flared pipe end. Not bad just alittle inconvienence.
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I have dual powersticks on a 2.5" x pipe system dumped at the rear axle- sounds mean as hell. (pics of my exhaust are recent in the dual exhaust pic thread)

I definitely recommend them.

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I have dual powersticks on a 2.5" x pipe system dumped at the rear axle- sounds mean as hell. (pics of my exhaust are recent in the dual exhaust pic thread)

I definitely recommend them.

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