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Old 11-08-2013, 04:51 PM
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What headers will clear PA Tube K-Member Steering with Rack and Pinion

Looking for long tube headers with 1 3/4 primaries with 3-3.5 inch collectors that will clear the steering column on my car. Dougs don't work and some of the others in a stock appication that I've read about that are close or causing problems definately won't work.

I would have gone the Dyno Don route, but, he only has 2.5 collector. My motor will be putting out over 700hp at 6500rpm...big big cam with blower and old school Canfield 215 heads...

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Have you contacted dyno don? He can probably work something out with you.
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Re: Headman 65165 clearance with PA K-member

Thanks for responding..not many out there either with the PA k-member or care to respond.

Yes, I contacted Dyno Don via this forum and he said he could not help me with the 3" collector... 2.5" collector is way to small for a 700hp on boost. I've read numerous articles/forums of his work and it would really be awesome if he made mid-length or full length or even shorties that had 3" collectors. There'd be no more questions or searches.

At this point it looks like I am going to buy Hedman Hustler 65165-66 version and only hope for the best.. These are suppose to fit angle plug heads and are thermal coated inside and out...

or the Lemons...
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Re: What headers will clear PA Tube K-Member Steering with Rack and Pinion

Well Reb let us know what you come up with and what you had to do to get them to fit. Pictures would be nice, love to look at pictures.
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Re: What headers will clear PA Tube K-Member Steering with Rack and Pinion

have you asked Jason from PA Racing to see what he suggests? He did build the k-member afterall, lol.

also, pretty sure a hooker 2210 longtube will work without issues.
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Put an extra knuckle in the steering rod
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Re: What headers will clear PA Tube K-Member Steering with Rack and Pinion

Thanks for the replies... Decided to buy the Hustler 65171 stepped LT headers. I bought them plain and sending them to Nitro Coating in Nashville...a very reputable location for coatings of all kinds. I had already determined that in any case i was going to end up putting in an extra knuckle (ya c'glassin Pocket), if anything it will reinforce the steering shaft which is less than optimal at the moment.

ps. It had the Hooker Supor Comps before. With new motor, new motor mounts, tranny mounts...well new everything.. we'll see how it goes...

new thread coming soon.. car gutted..custom roll cage installed, 9N rear with 411 installed...putting finishing touches on a full roller 383, procharge build...drop in this winter.

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Re: What headers will clear PA Tube K-Member Steering with Rack and Pinion

Should have added...

for those looking for headers...be advised..the model I'm buying has a flat collector going to round 3 1/2 " .there are trade-offs...
Pros - you get about an inch of better ground clearance and after a wheelie stand you won't come down on them...
Cons - need to use shorty oil filter or relocation oil filter kit
Cons - need min-starter

In another life I would be an autmotive engineer who traveled around and showed these aftermarket companies how to build add-ons that fit properly and real-time websites that informed the public (good and bad). Although much appreciated the info provide here vendor sites would benefit with just a little follow-up information for the customer..

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well, did you talk to Jason then? sounds like you're "talking about talking". Jason is a cool cat and i'm sure would provide the info you need.
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"talking about talking"??preachers kid from yellowbullett...I spent days on end searching and reading and reading to the point of giving up and making this post. I'm not one to talk much or ask without trying to find the answers first. Been building cars for 35 years. Manufactures should be providing deminsions and feedback. If they did, it wouldn't take much to figure this stuff out or searching 4 differant forums to hope for an answer. I could not find a solid answer and even the PA site which has headers, doesn't show one for my car. Wish I had read what you wrote about Jason earlier and before I Ordered the headers. Too late now, but good info for later and others.. I will give him a call to ask a few other questions...one about the bump stop bolts and the R&P setup. Don't like the look/design of the bolts and the way they mount to the spindle..They should have a thicker/solid spacer sleeve..looks like a good pot hole could taken 'em out..

Thanks again for your reply..
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i've been in contact with Jason a lot for my setup i'm getting from him, and i know just how personable he actually is, that's all. i wish you had seen it too, cause i responded to you the day of, trying to get you to call him before you ended up with a headache man.

Yes, i'm Preacher's Kid on YB. "talking about talking", meaning that you're talking about talking to these manufacturers, but hadn't actually done so. That statement was said when i thought you had already seen that i told you to talk with Jason, but you had missed it in the post, so it doesn't really apply. lol.
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Actually, before I posted I talked with several mainstream header manuf.. and fabricators...almost went with Lemons... but it was stil iffy with the way the steering column cutting closer to the #3 tube than stock. I also do not have the luxury of sending them back and forth for mods just to do fitment. I do appreciate the reference..and the response and should have been a little more patient...When I saw PA didn't even carry headers for the car, figured there just might be a reason, especially after reading the numerous horror stories.. The real way I wanted to go just don't exist... I wanted 1 3/4 OD with 3" collector mid-length. Several carried 1 5/8 with 2 1/2 or 1 3/4 with 2 1/2... Hustler actually makes these to order and they hug the block and tranny coming down flat...since I am making my own fuel and brake lines converting to manual, this could get real interesting.. just got my car back from the paint shop (had the engine bay painted and my roll cage clear coated). The roll cage is handmade by myself and another guy (the other guy is the master), but I got pretty handy with the bender and notcher and did a lot of it by myself. Since the steel was in unusally awesome clean shape, instead of painting it, I decided to go with a brush nickel look..it actually called a Butler finish. Ironically, my last name. You basically use scotch brite or 320 grit in one direction (a whole lot). Pictures aren't that great but you can see the finish..

I'll start next week running all the new lines/hoses/new gas tank...then wiring, then drop in the motor.

If these don't work out, I'll go to a local shop and cut and bend my own. There's a first time for everything..and I'm not afraid to try with a little help...
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Just passing through, but I just wanted to say that the paint looks like glass! Very nice.
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