My '91 Z28
#101
Member
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Santa Clara, CA
Posts: 167
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
Car: Black 1991 Z28
Engine: 5.7 TPI
Transmission: Automatic
Axle/Gears: I have no Idea
Re: My '91 Z28
I love the thread man, I just bought a 91 that was sitting in a garage for 20 years and is as stock as they come. You're giving me lots of ideas...
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/nort...first-car.html
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/nort...first-car.html
#103
Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Virginia
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 1992 Camaro RS
Engine: 3.1
Transmission: 5 Speed
Axle/Gears: 3:42
Re: My '91 Z28
The steering wheel is a MOMO milenium. Although I'm starting the think that it's a replica because I've never been able to find another one that's black. Got the hub adapter (MOMO) from eBay.
I'll be doing SFC's sometime this summer. I've been debating on whether I should make some custom ones or buy them. And I've already switched out my stock steering shaft for one out of a Jeep Cherokee. I found that it was way easier than trying to find the correct Astro van shaft and then modifying it to fit. I had collected 3 Astro van shaft prior to using the Jeep one.
As for the smoked side markers and turn signals, they are made by Depot and I got those from eBay.
I'll be doing SFC's sometime this summer. I've been debating on whether I should make some custom ones or buy them. And I've already switched out my stock steering shaft for one out of a Jeep Cherokee. I found that it was way easier than trying to find the correct Astro van shaft and then modifying it to fit. I had collected 3 Astro van shaft prior to using the Jeep one.
As for the smoked side markers and turn signals, they are made by Depot and I got those from eBay.
Thanks and your car is awesome.
#104
Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Virginia
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 1992 Camaro RS
Engine: 3.1
Transmission: 5 Speed
Axle/Gears: 3:42
Re: My '91 Z28
#105
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Aloha, Oregon
Posts: 1,132
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes
on
6 Posts
Car: '91 Camaro Z28, '85 Camaro Z28
Engine: LB9, LB9
Transmission: T5, 700r4
Axle/Gears: Eaton 3.73 Posi, 3.23 Posi
Re: My '91 Z28
I can snap a few in a few days for you. It's a custom sealed box, not just a cover. I don't Know the dimensions or volume offhand though.
#106
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Aloha, Oregon
Posts: 1,132
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes
on
6 Posts
Car: '91 Camaro Z28, '85 Camaro Z28
Engine: LB9, LB9
Transmission: T5, 700r4
Axle/Gears: Eaton 3.73 Posi, 3.23 Posi
Re: My '91 Z28
So I havent posted any updates in awhile, and that is due to the fact that I got in an accident on the highway about 3 weeks ago. Long story short: I got cut off by someone doing nearly half the speed limit, I swerved, spun out out and ended up putting the right front corner into a concrete wall. I just finally finished redoing the front suspension today and have driven a few miles. I'm still trying to source a good right front fender and front bumper cover though.
#108
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Aloha, Oregon
Posts: 1,132
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes
on
6 Posts
Car: '91 Camaro Z28, '85 Camaro Z28
Engine: LB9, LB9
Transmission: T5, 700r4
Axle/Gears: Eaton 3.73 Posi, 3.23 Posi
Re: My '91 Z28
The damage was:
-RF fender tweaked
-bumper cover scratched up and had a hole in it
-front lip is scratched up
-spindle snapped in half
-strut bent
-brake caliper mounting ear broke off
-A-arm bent
-strut mount got extremely bent up
-outer tie rod end bent
-sway bar end link bent
-brake line got slashed
-wheel cracked and bent
-tire blew out
Luckily I have a '85 Z28 as a parts car so I swapped over both A-arms, spindles, brake calipers, rotors, brake lines, tie rod and end link. I already had my new extended ball joints so I installed those. I also threw on my new strut mounts, and I also still have my SS wheels so I am using those now too. The only part I had to order was a new Koni strut.
I still need to do an alignment and find a new fender and bumper cover and have them painted. Then I can roll my fenders, clearance the inner fender support and set my ride height down to where I want it to be.
#109
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Aloha, Oregon
Posts: 1,132
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes
on
6 Posts
Car: '91 Camaro Z28, '85 Camaro Z28
Engine: LB9, LB9
Transmission: T5, 700r4
Axle/Gears: Eaton 3.73 Posi, 3.23 Posi
Re: My '91 Z28
This is what a 23.75" front fender height looks like.
#110
#113
Supreme Member
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Aloha, Oregon
Posts: 1,178
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 1991 Christine Z28
Engine: RV Cam and Intake 350 SBC
Transmission: 5speed
Axle/Gears: 3.08 ls Posi
Re: My '91 Z28
Someone on another board suggested that some shot A-arm bushing could be the culprit for the left front wheel being sunken in more. I was planning on replacing those bushing sometime soon, and possibly install some G-body A-arms to help fix the horrible scrub radius these cars have with wide wheels. I also have a popping noise coming from the left front under moderate to heavy braking only. I thought it may be the strut bushing but now I'm second guessing that. But I am 99% certain that my crossmember is off center. I had it on the rack 2 weeks ago (before i put these wheels on) and was noticing a smaller clearance between the frame rail and the crossmember on the passenger side. I'll have it back on the rack tomorrow so I'll double check that.
#114
Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Fort Myers, FL
Posts: 50
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 1991 Chevrolet Camaro RS
Engine: 305 TBI
Transmission: T-5 Manual
Axle/Gears: 3.42 4th Gen
Re: My '91 Z28
Just saw this thread. You got an excellent deal on a very solid car. Basically the car/options I wanted to find but couldn't. Congratulations!.
How are those turn signals in the bumper holding up? I want to get some but I'm a little worried the lenses might yellow fast.
Car looks awesome, keep it clean.
How are those turn signals in the bumper holding up? I want to get some but I'm a little worried the lenses might yellow fast.
Car looks awesome, keep it clean.
#115
Supreme Member
iTrader: (4)
Re: My '91 Z28
My car did that for a while until I replaced the ball joints and a-arm bushings. I would imagine it's one of those. Interesting thing is that it has started doing it again occasionally... Perhaps unrelated, but I bought nice ball joints and poly a-arm bushings, they woldnt wear out this quickly, so Im wondering if it's just something innocuous in this case. Before Im pretty sure it was worn out a-arm bushings.
#118
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Aloha, Oregon
Posts: 1,132
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes
on
6 Posts
Car: '91 Camaro Z28, '85 Camaro Z28
Engine: LB9, LB9
Transmission: T5, 700r4
Axle/Gears: Eaton 3.73 Posi, 3.23 Posi
Re: My '91 Z28
Made it myself, I wouldn't consider it a splitter though, just a lip.
I made a thread about it, Home made front lip
Yes, my right front wheel was bent from the impact. I'm just going to run these SS wheels for the time being. I never really liked the look of staggered diameter wheels, so I plan on buying a pair of 18x9.5 Y2K wheels to put up front. Although lately I have been considering getting some of the deep dish Y2K wheels and putting those in the rear. I just don't know if they would look OK with the standard wheels up front.
Yes, it actually turned out to be my brake pad. The spring was weak enough to allow some slight movement. I just removed the pads, slightly bent in the "ears" on the pad in order for them to have a nice tight fit and reinstalled them. No more popping.
Thank! I spent about 5 years looking for this car with all the exact options too, so I know how that feels. But the turn signals are holding up great. No fading, oxidation, pitting or anything like that. I don't regret getting them one bit.
I made a thread about it, Home made front lip
Yes, my right front wheel was bent from the impact. I'm just going to run these SS wheels for the time being. I never really liked the look of staggered diameter wheels, so I plan on buying a pair of 18x9.5 Y2K wheels to put up front. Although lately I have been considering getting some of the deep dish Y2K wheels and putting those in the rear. I just don't know if they would look OK with the standard wheels up front.
Just saw this thread. You got an excellent deal on a very solid car. Basically the car/options I wanted to find but couldn't. Congratulations!
How are those turn signals in the bumper holding up? I want to get some but I'm a little worried the lenses might yellow fast.
Car looks awesome, keep it clean.
How are those turn signals in the bumper holding up? I want to get some but I'm a little worried the lenses might yellow fast.
Car looks awesome, keep it clean.
#120
Supreme Member
iTrader: (4)
Re: My '91 Z28
Those SS wheels look so much better on 3rd gens than 4th gens. Guess it helps when the car is better looking to begin with. But I just wanted to mention, since you want to go back to Y2k's so I figure you're at least somewhat dissatisfied with the SS wheels. Those SS wheels look REALLY good in competition gray. If you like chrome wheels it wont really tickle your fancy bone, but it might be a nice placeholder for a while. I think the competition gray looks a lot better than that "fake aluminum" plastic looking paint that GM loves to use on their wheels.
Im personally hoping I can happen onto a set of those and paint em that color.
Im personally hoping I can happen onto a set of those and paint em that color.
Last edited by InfernalVortex; 09-16-2012 at 12:22 AM.
#121
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Aloha, Oregon
Posts: 1,132
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes
on
6 Posts
Car: '91 Camaro Z28, '85 Camaro Z28
Engine: LB9, LB9
Transmission: T5, 700r4
Axle/Gears: Eaton 3.73 Posi, 3.23 Posi
Re: My '91 Z28
You know, you're right, I'm not really diggin the SS wheels on this car. I think they looked a lot better on my '85 Z28...
And you're right on another point, those do look a lot better in competition gray. That gives me something to think about. I do like the SS wheels to an extent, but they're a little a little small, IMO. I plan to get some drop spindles in the near future and 17's wont work with them. On top of that i autocross my car. I run my car in STU and the max tire width for that class is 285, which bulges quite a bit on a 9" wide wheel. Id rather run that size on an 11" wide wheel.
Believe it or not, 99% of the time I hate chrome wheels. I actually didn't really like my Y2K wheels at first, but they really grew on me. And if my car where any other color than black I still probably wouldn't like them. Though, I don't plan to run Y2K wheels forever. It's just easier and cheaper right now to get one pair of 18's to match so I can run those again. This car still has a long way to go. I'm saving up to get some REALLY nice wheels in the future. It'll be some 5 spoke 3 piece 18" or 19" really wide wheels, and the car will be just a hair lower. I need the perfect stance. I'm still trying to lock down my final decision but more than likely it'll be a set of Work Meister S1's or SSR Professor SP1's.
And you're right on another point, those do look a lot better in competition gray. That gives me something to think about. I do like the SS wheels to an extent, but they're a little a little small, IMO. I plan to get some drop spindles in the near future and 17's wont work with them. On top of that i autocross my car. I run my car in STU and the max tire width for that class is 285, which bulges quite a bit on a 9" wide wheel. Id rather run that size on an 11" wide wheel.
Believe it or not, 99% of the time I hate chrome wheels. I actually didn't really like my Y2K wheels at first, but they really grew on me. And if my car where any other color than black I still probably wouldn't like them. Though, I don't plan to run Y2K wheels forever. It's just easier and cheaper right now to get one pair of 18's to match so I can run those again. This car still has a long way to go. I'm saving up to get some REALLY nice wheels in the future. It'll be some 5 spoke 3 piece 18" or 19" really wide wheels, and the car will be just a hair lower. I need the perfect stance. I'm still trying to lock down my final decision but more than likely it'll be a set of Work Meister S1's or SSR Professor SP1's.
Last edited by DBLTKE; 09-16-2012 at 03:36 AM.
#122
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Aloha, Oregon
Posts: 1,132
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes
on
6 Posts
Car: '91 Camaro Z28, '85 Camaro Z28
Engine: LB9, LB9
Transmission: T5, 700r4
Axle/Gears: Eaton 3.73 Posi, 3.23 Posi
Re: My '91 Z28
I guess I forgot to make another update. I finally finished my stereo install. I got a killer deal on all of my parts. I spent a total of under $200 for everything but if I bought new, I would have spent over $1200
Reciever: Kenwoods Excelon KDC-X994
Dash speakers: 4x6 Alpine SPS-4629P
Sail panel speakers: 6x9 Pioneer TS-A6971R
Amplifier: Alpine PDX-1.600
Subwoofers: Two 10" 2ohm dual voice coil Kicker Comp VR's
And I'm using a 4 AWG Streetwire power and ground wire with an 80a fuse
For the most part I'm pretty happy with this set up. Although the speakers are hardly any better than stock. Though, I'm sure they are much more durable. They just don't provide bass or mid level tones. The subs are great, but with how loud and deep my exhaust is, I should have gone with 12's or 15's. But when I'm listening to the stereo with the engine off the subs perform fantastic.
Reciever: Kenwoods Excelon KDC-X994
Dash speakers: 4x6 Alpine SPS-4629P
Sail panel speakers: 6x9 Pioneer TS-A6971R
Amplifier: Alpine PDX-1.600
Subwoofers: Two 10" 2ohm dual voice coil Kicker Comp VR's
And I'm using a 4 AWG Streetwire power and ground wire with an 80a fuse
For the most part I'm pretty happy with this set up. Although the speakers are hardly any better than stock. Though, I'm sure they are much more durable. They just don't provide bass or mid level tones. The subs are great, but with how loud and deep my exhaust is, I should have gone with 12's or 15's. But when I'm listening to the stereo with the engine off the subs perform fantastic.
#123
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Aloha, Oregon
Posts: 1,132
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes
on
6 Posts
Car: '91 Camaro Z28, '85 Camaro Z28
Engine: LB9, LB9
Transmission: T5, 700r4
Axle/Gears: Eaton 3.73 Posi, 3.23 Posi
Re: My '91 Z28
Here's an update, I haven't done much. I raised my ride height about 1.5" for the time being until I fix the fender and get some drop spindles for the front. Having extended ball joint reduced my strut travel enough to the point that they could bottom out at my lowered ride height. I also plastidipped my wheels. I now like the way the SS wheels look on my car 100x more.
#124
Supreme Member
iTrader: (7)
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Alamogordo, NM
Posts: 3,740
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes
on
9 Posts
Car: 88 Formula 350
Engine: 5.7
Transmission: T-56
Axle/Gears: 9" 3.89
Re: My '91 Z28
Dang, that looks 10x better with them in black, and I usually don't like black on black cars. Clean *** Z28!
#125
Member
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Canada, Qc, St-hyacinthe
Posts: 106
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 1984 Z28 / 2002 Z06
Engine: 350 New Crate / LS6
Transmission: T5 / M12
Axle/Gears: 3.73 / 3.42
Re: My '91 Z28
I love the Black SS wheel! Very clean your Z28!
#132
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Aloha, Oregon
Posts: 1,132
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes
on
6 Posts
Car: '91 Camaro Z28, '85 Camaro Z28
Engine: LB9, LB9
Transmission: T5, 700r4
Axle/Gears: Eaton 3.73 Posi, 3.23 Posi
Re: My '91 Z28
I'm Running 275/40/17 up front and 285/40/17 on the rear. I sprayed the wheels with the tires on actually, I didn't even tape anything off. The plastidip was able to peel right off of the tires without a problem.
#133
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Aloha, Oregon
Posts: 1,132
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes
on
6 Posts
Car: '91 Camaro Z28, '85 Camaro Z28
Engine: LB9, LB9
Transmission: T5, 700r4
Axle/Gears: Eaton 3.73 Posi, 3.23 Posi
Re: My '91 Z28
I finally uploaded my videos onto YouTube.
SLP LM2 first install. Stock manifolds, Y-pipe, cats.
SLP LM2 with stock manifolds, Y-pipe, gutted cats
SLP LM2 Dyno Don headers & Y-pipe, no cats.
Dyno runs. 216 hp and 276 ft/lbs
SLP LM2 first install. Stock manifolds, Y-pipe, cats.
SLP LM2 with stock manifolds, Y-pipe, gutted cats
SLP LM2 Dyno Don headers & Y-pipe, no cats.
Dyno runs. 216 hp and 276 ft/lbs
#135
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Aloha, Oregon
Posts: 1,132
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes
on
6 Posts
Car: '91 Camaro Z28, '85 Camaro Z28
Engine: LB9, LB9
Transmission: T5, 700r4
Axle/Gears: Eaton 3.73 Posi, 3.23 Posi
Re: My '91 Z28
I actually think its probably a better idea to Plastidip the wheels with tires mounted. I had my front tires flipped at my tire shop after i had dipped them and they scuffed the lips in a couple places. The stuff is durable, but not that durable.
#136
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Aloha, Oregon
Posts: 1,132
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes
on
6 Posts
Car: '91 Camaro Z28, '85 Camaro Z28
Engine: LB9, LB9
Transmission: T5, 700r4
Axle/Gears: Eaton 3.73 Posi, 3.23 Posi
Re: My '91 Z28
Found a pic of my car online from one of the meets I've been to.
#137
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Georgia
Posts: 574
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes
on
4 Posts
Car: 91' Z28. 70' Dune Buggy
Engine: LSX Cam/Full Bolt ons
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 4.10
Re: My '91 Z28
Sweet pic.
You have one of my favorite cars on this board, hands down.
I'm thinking about gutting my cats or running a test pipe. How does your car smell? Was the smell a noticeable difference?
You have one of my favorite cars on this board, hands down.
I'm thinking about gutting my cats or running a test pipe. How does your car smell? Was the smell a noticeable difference?
#138
#140
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Aloha, Oregon
Posts: 1,132
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes
on
6 Posts
Car: '91 Camaro Z28, '85 Camaro Z28
Engine: LB9, LB9
Transmission: T5, 700r4
Axle/Gears: Eaton 3.73 Posi, 3.23 Posi
Re: My '91 Z28
Nope, no noticable smell if you have full length exhaust and tail pipes.
#144
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Aloha, Oregon
Posts: 1,132
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes
on
6 Posts
Car: '91 Camaro Z28, '85 Camaro Z28
Engine: LB9, LB9
Transmission: T5, 700r4
Axle/Gears: Eaton 3.73 Posi, 3.23 Posi
Re: My '91 Z28
The first Autocross event was this weekend. I compete with Oregon Region SCCA in the STU class.
#145
Supreme Member
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Aloha, Oregon
Posts: 1,178
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 1991 Christine Z28
Engine: RV Cam and Intake 350 SBC
Transmission: 5speed
Axle/Gears: 3.08 ls Posi
Re: My '91 Z28
The first Autocross event was this weekend. I compete with Oregon Region SCCA in the STU class.
http://youtu.be/fazvcl0ITtk
http://youtu.be/fazvcl0ITtk
#147
Supreme Member
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Aloha, Oregon
Posts: 1,178
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 1991 Christine Z28
Engine: RV Cam and Intake 350 SBC
Transmission: 5speed
Axle/Gears: 3.08 ls Posi
#149
Supreme Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Aloha, Oregon
Posts: 1,132
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes
on
6 Posts
Car: '91 Camaro Z28, '85 Camaro Z28
Engine: LB9, LB9
Transmission: T5, 700r4
Axle/Gears: Eaton 3.73 Posi, 3.23 Posi
Re: My '91 Z28
Yes, it does. Though exhaust drone has never bothered me in any car, I actually like it. It's most noticable around 2000-2400 rpms depending on how warm the engine is. However, when I had stock manifolds, cats, and y-pipe, the SLP Loudmouth 2 cat back did not drone.
#150
Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Joplin, Mo
Posts: 68
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Car: 1987 Camaro
Engine: 2.8 V6
Transmission: 700r4
Re: My '91 Z28
Definitely one of my favorite cars on the board. Keep up the good work man. Hopefully I can get my hands on a 91-92 soon.