ibmtech

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You said you were only doing 25mph when it spun around and did a 180? I have done alot of accident scene investigation and never have seen that much damage from a 25mph crash especially when you came off a blacktop road and ended up approx 4 feet off the road. Glad you are ok.. That was one beautiful car.. I loved the realistic flames

YEAHUNO

http://austin.craigslist.org/cto/3228983409.html

Even if its a v6. It looks as if all ur running gear is ok. Then just swap it over. Hope this helps.

scottmoyer

Not my place to blame, but 1st gear only ends at about 40mph at WOT! The road appears dry in the picture I see, so doing a 180 and doing that much damage isn't really possible at 25-30mph. Glad you're ok, but things don't add up.

SKELITOR117

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Yah. I had my foot on the gas cause people at the intersection were being undecisive. They don't seem to grasp the concept of a 4 way stop. Tires were cold, and the it had sprinkled earlier that day (which I hadn't taken into account).

SKELITOR117

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Well. I'm selling the car. Got lots of parts if anybody is interested. Wish me luck.

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/cama...rs-camaro.html

Chevy8588

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Dude that happened to me an my buddy in his FOUR CYLINDER fiero the other day, we were going into a turn on dry pavement and he was on it, which in a duke fiero is grandma on a sunday acceleration, and he suddenly went sideways! he saved it, and we went on our way. we could NOT get that fiero to do that again on WET pavement. found out later there was a car accident there, oil on the ground.

onthedownlow

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As soon as I seen the topic of this thread, I just had a sick feeling in my stomach. I can't imagine how bad that feels. Sorry for the loss man, but glad to see you are doing okay and have a game plan. Yours was a very unique sexxy third gen, good luck with the sale.

J0hn_J0hn08

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Hey skelitor sorry about ur loss.

Ive been there, done that. lol in a thirdgen u need to take every turn seriously if there is even a slight chance of it being slippery.

Just shake it off, get up and get another thirdgen thats what i did at least.
Good luck man

Andrew James

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That really sucks man. It really does. I lost my baby to a deer and tree, best rig I ever owned. RIP River Rat (Bronco) and Skellitor...

I have done similar in my Bird. Was slighty damp ground, early morning and going 25 mp through a turn when I just started spinning. Nothing to do it ride it out because of the location. Just let off everything and did my slide in the road. I was lucky.

DeltaElite121

I know the feeling, heh. Glad you're in one piece. I know it's difficult right now, particularly with how nice you had things set - but you know there's nothing that can be done from it. The best way to cope with a huge change like that is to just take a breather for a bit, then start looking for something new and fresh again. It will take time, but you'll grow to love it like you did with your current one.

zachkuby87

real sorry about your loss but are you sure you were only doing 30? ive crashed 2 different 3rd gens a total of 3 times 2 were with other cars at 25-30 mph and didnt look anywhere near that bad the 3rd was a blowout at 110-120 mph i FLEW into a ditch i consider it a crash cause i took out a few small trees. but still i drove away from all 3 incidents

J91

Glad you are ok, sorry about the car. I lost my 87 Z, 2 weeks after paint/ slash finishing it about 8-9 yrs ago. I bought a roller w/ no engine or trans and got to work, it'll be worth it....

1bad91Z

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You should strip the entire car (save ALL parts and bolts). Then buy a cheap 82-92 camaro roller (no motor or trans) for cheap then swap ALL parts in the cheap new roller. A new car could be made out of it easy and for cheap!

What street in Katy did it happen on?

2007xl50

Glad you hear you are ok, and sorry about the car man. What is insureance going to give you??

SKELITOR117

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Nadda. It was liabilty only and I drove pretty carefully with it. It was all me and my family could afford at the time. I'm out of a car for the next few weeks which means no college and no job.

2007xl50

That sucks dude, but I always have full coverage on anything I pay more than about $2500 for. I mean you had all the money in the paint. Well not trying to give you a hard time. Hope you can sell some parts and get another car going soon.

kmcn47

a testament to the design that is so often criticized, i am very sorry for your loss, and i may be the only one here who thinks it looks like it could have been worse? are you sure the frames bent, it honestly looks to me atleast that the fender and door are definetly gone but that it could be repaired? regardless it was a beauty and even if it can be fixed, that paintjob wont ever be duplicated heres to something miraculous happening and you getting a car as badass as this one sometime soon

SKELITOR117

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Thanks mate. Yah I'm not sure if the frame is actually bent, but I can't afford to fix it either way. Hopefully I can sell the car or its parts soon so I can get another ride.

kmcn47

does it still run? o.0 i'd definitely get under her and check it out, pop the hood and look at the main support that the fender bolts to, if its straight, ot even still mostly straight your good topside, get under it and follow the subframe form the steering box back to the jacking points, if there all still straight, or even mostly straight the car is saveable, you'd be suprised i bought a whole door for 100 bucks, i mean complete with glass panels and the armrest bolts and all, i swapped it in a few hours by myself, and no law i know of that says ya need fenders? i mean really looking at these pictures, just something about it the middle one in particular i just cant right it off seeing that picture, yeah it looks to have taken a pretty hard hit but the firewall doesn't look to have lost its shape, the front clip is pretty well gone on the drivers side, tell me did the floor bow up when it made contact? trees are sturdy but wood is forgiving your "hard" subframe may be intact even though the softer (in design anyway) body is wrecked is what i'm saying wait until you can go look at it again and report back to us, i hope and pray she can be saved

SKELITOR117

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The floor didn't pop up to the best of my knowlage but the roof did.

kmcn47

well thats good, the roof honestly can be cut off and another welded on, as white trashy as that sounds it can, if the floor is still fine then i dont believe the damage came in far enough to mishape the frame rail (subframe)

mav75

I'm really sorry to hear that!! I know how much time and effort you've put into that car. Like everyone else says, you walked away from the accident and that's all that really matters. Being carless is temporary. Being lifeless...not so much.

It's amazing how much damage can be done at such a low speed, but man, that was one big effing tree! It's a good thing you hit it sideways, or your engine would've been in your lap.

Hope to see you back in action soon!

BOTTLEDZ28

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There are enough of these cars out there. replacing a roof on one of them is pointless. Just replace the car.

Guest

I came to the conclusion that you WERE going faster than 25...after looking at my own wreck and having hit 1 those tree bushes and then cocking around that and hitting a tree. After having been coming off the free way then horrible fishtailing (reasons unknown: possible blown tire.)
jumping OVER a median, sliding backwards and sideways, then having that other stuff before finally coming to stop on this h311 ride and facing back out to the street. Windshield shattered ALL the way threw, hood taco-ed at the op from being pinched between the fenders, front suspension busted, rim damaged from dragging across the pavement, door bowed outward , fender beer canned, rocker AND rocker panel near non existent,
cowl tag messed up, and blower box has a lot of cracks and lets engine heat into the **** pit (hahaha), other stuff too but now the cars mostly fixed and has been waving the thirdgen flag ever since.....

2007xl50

Who did the paint anyways. It's not my style, but always like to see nice work.

mav75

I've seen quite a few comments questioning what Skelitor said his speed was just before the crash. Not to start a war or anything, but this thread is for mourning the loss of his Camaro, not traffic court. Can we please not go all CSI on him and probably make him feel worse than he already does? What difference does it make if he was going 30 or 300? It's not going to change the fact that the car got wrapped around a tree.

Sorry for the rant...just my

kmcn47

that may be but (and im sure he feels this way) there not "his" car and not another one will ever be the same

scottmoyer

I believe the reason everyone is going CSI, as you stated, is because of the story that goes with the accident. He said he was maybe going 25, must have hit a slick spot on a soft curve, lost control when he over corrected and hit the tree. When you tell a story like that, you need to expect that people will challenge the story based on the damage done. The story doesn't match the damage.

Now, if the owner said that he was going about 45 or 50 on a wet road, went around the corner faster than he should have because someone was making him mad, etc, and he lost control on the corner, we'd all say that the loss was unfortunate. We would also mention that we hope he learned his lesson, because the 3 seconds he saved getting around the slow poke ended up costing him a lot more time.

Disclaimer - I am not saying that the above scenario is how things happened. I am only stating that it's a possibility. We have also heard and probably told unbelievable stories ourselves.

mav75

Like the time when I was 17 and drove my parents' car over 100 mph down a narrow 2 lane road, locked the pre-ABS brakes when the road dipped, drifted about 250 feet, flat spotted all 4 tires, and told my parents it happened while braking to avoid a squirrel?

Still, in situations like Skelitor's, when the s**t hits the fan, the adrenaline kicks in, and the picture is seen in slow motion through tunnel vision, it's quite possible that Skelitor thought he was going around 25 when his actual speed could've been quite higher. Not that it matters; the end result is still the same. I just hate to see the poor kid raked over the coals when his prized possession (and only mode of transportation) is totaled and there's no replacement in the foreseeable future.

FlyHiFlyLo

Sad to see... Sh!+ Happens.... Most of us have trashed a car before. You are only 18 and will probably destroy another. Glad you were ok after that and another foot forward it wouldn't have been in your favor. What did your parents say? I'm sure they are livid.

91phoenix

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I am so sorry to see/hear this. I am glad you are ok. I liked that car. It had one of the nicest full custom paint jobs on this forum. I hope you can find a way to keep your job so you can get another car soon. Payments may not be fun but may very well be a necessity. Good Luck.
I liked that though you were young (I am an old fart) you seemed to be grounded and willing to help others on here. With your upcoming changes please try to stay that way.

2007xl50

Situations like this is why I say if you can't insure the car properley then don't have it. If he would have had full coverage-he might not have got all his paint and wheel money back, but at least he would get something for the car and maybe a rental car in the mean time.

SKELITOR117

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Dude I almost forgot! This freaking leprechaun came outta NOWHERE and I had to swerve to avoid him AND a line of jaywalking physically disabled orphans.

91phoenix

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SKELITOR117, I have put alot of thought into all the bashing you are receiving and something tells me they could very well be wrong. Why? You should know what gear you were in. Speed is somewhat able to be determined with that. It does seem as if 25 could be slow but I can see a way it could have happened at that approx speed.
Everyone else may laugh but just maybe you happened to hit the gas and not necessarily all the brake. Easy in this situation and not readily able to be determined. Entirely accidental. With the probable tunnel vision would not have realized it. If that happened then it would be easy to do everything including hopping a curb.
I personally am not about to flame you for your recollection of what happened. I have done far worse in other cars including pulling out in front of someone with out ever seeing them at night while they had their headlights on in my once prized (now totalled) custom Vette. My 'Bird takes its place many years later.
As for the leprechaun's the mistake was not following them to their pot of gold. Shame on you.

Chevy8588

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i did something like that in my old v6 z24 when i was 16. i slammed the brakes to avoid an accident with some old bat in a cadillac. my foot caught the side of the brake, locked em up for about a second, then it slipped off and slammed my gas to the floor. lol. rammed her quite literally. the aluminum headed 3100 is a bit more stout than its iron headed brother

white1991rs

Im sorry about your car man, you should try to find a way to get another third gen for your next ride!