3rdBird

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Looking to buy new wheels and want to step it up a bit. Are theses wheels overkill for a low 9 or high 8 second car?

AlkyIROC

I don't even use rim screws on my car. I don't use tubes and my tires don't slip on the rims.

I don't think you should even consider using beadlocks until you hit the 1500 hp range. Although they're a safety item, it's unlikely you really need them.

xpndbl3

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if you are going to do beadlocks make sure it is a double beadlock. Also it is overkill compared to rim screws but tires are supposed to last longer for sidewall life with them, but the rims themselves are heavier than non-beadlock rims.

Shagwell

Overkill for sure, but leaves you room to grow.

1BADRZ28

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They are nice for changing tires. If you have the means get them.

1bad406

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Beadlocks look pimp if you can afford them.

mw66nova

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they're cool as hell looking...i agree with all stated above. except for stephen. on a small tire car they add stability. on a big tire they're way overkill. even at low 9's you're adding rotating weight you don't need, but if you plan to go faster later, then it'll be nice to have them.

stephen, i have to address something. you are not the fastest guy on here...yet you talk to everyone like you are, and that your opinion is fact and that if you don't give good graces on something then it's wrong. the fact of the matter is, times are changing. folks are going WAY faster than you on a small radial, and most of your ideals just don't carry over. your condescending tone is just getting old...

AlkyIROC

People ask for opinions or advice and I give it. It's still up to them if they wish to accept it or not. Some people just feel they have to have the latest thing they saw in a magazine or TV without knowing if they really need it or not.

Yes there are faster cars and on smaller tires. Try racing at altitude where an engine isn't making as much HP and try racing on poor track conditions. If you want a challenge of trying to hook up on a small tire on a not so perfect track then that's up to you. Some people also want that challenge of going fast with a 305 while everyone keeps telling them to go with a 350. That's their choice.

1bad406

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Also check with Holeshot Wheels. They make some pretty nice pieces.
http://www.holeshotwheels.com/

DIGGLER

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beadlocks look cool, cost alot, and make changing tires easier. it may depend on alot of variables, but in general i would say you wouldnt "need" them unless your going at least low 9's on a slick. even at that point i might do some rim screws and call it a day.
many of the radial guys were flying with no beadlocks OR screws. just used glue. i've been 1.30 on my 275's with no screws. mostly beadlocks are for tire changes at the track during a race weekend.

JesasaurusRex

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And i don't think you should have a big tire on anything that isn't atLEAST in the 7s . Nore do I think a 500+ cube big block on alcohol in a gutted out 4 link car turning mid 9s is impressive at any altitude. People leave wheels up on the street with stock suspension and a small tire, nobody cares about how bad your race track is. Turdbird, I've spun my tires on the wheels when I had a 10 second car, if you can afford beadlocks have at it, on a wheel that already costs $4-500 bux (you hiring or what ) i say go for it. At a minimum wheel screw it, cuz the tire WILL spin. Now you just need a bottom 9 high 8 second car

mw66nova

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see there's the condescending tone again...you act like i've always raced at negative 1000' DA's on a perfect track paved by angels with golden bricks of vht. give me a frickin' break! my track is at 200' above sea level. our average DA in the summer is 4000' +. YOU make YOUR stuff work in those kinda humid conditions and get back with me. you hate your track/area so much? frickin' move somewhere with better conditions and more/longer racing season. i'm sure there is a call for deisel mechanics in other places that will allow you to race longer, etc. if you don't like your situation...DO SOMETHING about it.

DIGGLER

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lol you guys are harsh.

gtpro700

I dont think they are harsh because alkyIROC always has something to say about others but just tries to say it some twisted way so he can sleep at night. When I read his posts it comes off like he thinks his car is the best thing ever and everyone elses are crap. Could I be wrong about thinking this? Yes but for some reason I dont think I am. For instance look at shagwell that gives information all the time with no complaining or making the person feel inferior and he actually has a fast car! Just my

AlkyIROC

I have never claimed to be the fastest or the best on TGO. I've done a lot of changes over the years and have seen what works and what doesn't while whittling my times down. I make what I have work the way I want without a lot of bells and whistles. I don't have a tube chassis car. I don't use a power adder (NOS, blower etc). Technically, I'm still racing using old school technology and I had no intention of keeping my car street legal. You want to race on the street, that's up to you and the law.

Hey, go ahead and spend money on beadlocks if you think you need them. He asked if they were going to be overkill for his car and I gave him an example of what I've experienced. That doesn't mean he can't use them. I'm sure the money saved by using regular rims can be put to better use in the car.

There is always a wants and needs list. What do you want? What do you need? Too many people think they need something that they don't. I still have a want list but until it's needed, I do without.

Try advising users on making good decisions instead of letting them find out that what they bought or wanted to do isn't going to work just because someone said that they should go ahead anyway against the advise of others. Are beadlocks nice to have? Sure. Are they worth it? Not to the average person.

You couldn't pay me enough to live or work in the US.

gtpro700

No one ever said you give bad advice it is just how you give it and the underlying tones that go along with it. Just like your last post where it was all good until you had to say a d*ckhead comment about the US. Knowing that your canadian explains it all. Enough said. (not the only one who can have zingers in their comments)

mw66nova

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go back and read my post again...i never once said or implied you needed to move out of canada. but if the area you live in sucks so bad, move to another province. i've been to Toronto Motorsports Park, and Grand Bend, both in ontario. BEAUTIFUL country...and some super badass fast cars. always have good track prep and nice people in the area that support racing.

but your pompous attitude is showing it's true colors in this thread

1BADRZ28

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I have screws on my rims and unfortunately spin my tires on the rim without them. My plan is to beadloack my rims in the future. My plan wasn't to go this fast years ago. But if you are smart and have those plans the investment is worth it. I have had 3 sets of rims on my car over the years. If I had a plan back then, I would have bought one proper set.

DIGGLER

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my opinion- rims are way more "trendy" than they used to be. whats hot now will be out of style in 3 years, so putting beadlocks on some wheels can be a touchy situation. my prostars are way out of date nowadays.

xpndbl3

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pro stars are out of date ???


how do i "fit in" with the new cars these days? What's popular now?

DIGGLER

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when i bought my wheels 5-6 years ago i was thinking those things would never look dated. pretty much all there was then was welds or centerlines... or maybe billet specialties. now there is all kinds of other wheel manufacturers popping up. you wont see many of the headsup racers running prostars nowadays.

AlkyIROC

They're still heavy compared to rims like Bogart's.

I still have Centerline Autodrag cast aluminum clones on my 454SS because I liked the look. With hundreds of different styles available, it still becomes a personal preference, not "whats in style"

DIGGLER

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you may prefer to wear bell bottom jeans, but you may get pointed at alot.

RS Chris

Nothing says outdated like a pair of old Centerlines.

Shagwell

We all have our own thoughts/opinions. To me, anyone who has spent a decent amount of time/effort/money working with something has valuable knowledge on that something, be it good or bad.

From having run in Canada and the mile-highs I will again say, that real altitude is a force to be rekon'ed with. We rolled into Bandemeire(sp?) years ago with a s/c altered that would run 8.0's at will, had bumped into the high 7's when we were playing with it. We knew how to kill power to put it on the 8.90 dial, come the night test session Thursday we've thrown everything we had at this thing and are feeling better just to have finally gotten into the 8's at all(with an 8.99, lol). - Moly funny car chassis, 468ci aluminum headed 15:1 BBC with a big solid roller on alky on 14x32's.

I watch the DA regularily, a high DA does not corelate the same as real-world elevation. Similiar characteristics, but different animals.



well said.

Ross85Camaro

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Damn!! I didnt think that the pro-stars would ever go out... in fact, I was starting to look for some for my car!! And I think I will still put them on my car even if they are out of style lol. Just call me old style I guess lmao!

fenton06

If you've got the money get beadlocks. My next set of rims will have beadlocks for the sole purpose of being able change my own tires and not have to worry about a tire shop messing them up.

Matt - Don't worry about alky, you're just getting used to the bullet

DIGGLER

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have you priced a set of beadlocks?

fenton06

Yes, I will not pay to have tires mounted and dismounted if I need new tires every 15-20 runs because the sidewalls are shot from having a fast heavy car. I like the way they look too!

1BADRZ28

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I have a manual tire changer from Harbor freight and it's been the best 100.00 investment ever. I can swap tires in 15 minutes. I usually use 2-3 sets of 3055S's a year plus a set of DOT tires. I am on set number two already. I wrecked the sidewalls on a set already.

DIGGLER

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I think to justify putting beadlocks on my car, it would have to have a high dollar set of wheels first. beadlocks on some pro-stars just wouldnt seem right. i was thinking it was like $500-1000 to have a pair of wheels beadlocked. that is an aweful lot of tire changes at ~$20 a pair. since my car isnt even in the 8's yet, i cant justify having a $2,000 pair of wheels.