akmusclecar

Ok so i am a member of another forum dedicated to the ford focus. I know don't ask... Anyway there is a debate going on, the guy thinks he raced a 3rd gen v8 and won. Clearly he was racing a 4th gen v6.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHCL25Dz2lQ

I am right that this was a 1993-1997 firebird right?
He swears up and down his 05 focus ST w/SRI ( short ram intake ) will pull on his buddys LT1.

I told him his only way to beat a LT1 firebird was to get some N2O Boost the car drop in a posi diff, and to grab some drag radials than he Might have a chance.

Klewis89RS

looked like a thirdgen to me

1970 Buick

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Look down a few posts and you can see the discussion where I raced my buddy in his Focus w/ nitrous. I spanked him with my tires spinning all the way through first and into second. He had a 75 shot and a bunch of other things including some crazy expensive intake (supposedly German made and entirely of carbon fiber) Yea, that was a third gen, but looked like a v6 model by the rims alone.

ellocojorge

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arent late 4th gens faster than 305 3rd gens?

ls six

You cant tell the motor by the wheels, those wheels came on most 3rd gen birds.

The newer model Foci are pretty decent, my girlfriend drives a base 2.0 auto and it can move pretty good. The ST with the 2.3 and a 5 speed is a decently quick car stock.

The face lifted cars (05+ I believe) all come with the Mazda sourced MZR motor instead of the old Ztec. It's a much more responsive motor to typical tuner bolt ons and with a 16 second quarter mile time stock it's pretty simple to knock a second or a second and a half off and put it in the range of most 3rd gens.

Stephen

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Of course the Focus won!

Problem is, the other driver in the 'bird didn't know he was even in a race!

1970 Buick

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yea, I guess you can't be sure, but.. I am pretty sure those wheels only came on the lower model firebirds. Haven't seen many upgraded birds put those wheels on. It looks like an old 2.8 to me.

ls six

Everything but the TTA and GTA came with those wheels. And those may have just been optional.

Keep in mind there are several wheels from the entire run of the 3rd gen, the wheels shown with the angled slats are pretty common and there is a similar wheel with the center convex instead of concave with a deeper lip as measured near the rim.

There are atleast 2 different cross lace wheels and the bowling ball (knightrider) wheels as well.

tpivette89

what does this supposed V8 slaying Focus run? theyre not fast cars by any means... any non-V6 thirdgen would beat one stock vs stock

looks like he raced a V6 91-92 firebird in that vid tho

honestly, let him talk all the smack he wants to. then go find him a 4thgen LT1 to race and watch his ego disappear

BTW- whats the name of the Focus loving website? Maybe one of us lives close to this guy and can "educate" him a bit

89IrocZ350TPI

yeah a little bit. lol

akmusclecar

Here is his time slip. I could have sworn the bird was a early 93-95, But if i am wrong i can see it being a 91 or 92. I have a 88 so the front end difference from mine to the one in the vid threw me off. I know the bird (whatever year ) has a v6. my weak old TBI 305 will still smoke my dads 2009 focus SES. The thread is here http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/s...d.php?t=212077

He is in Tampa Florida, anyone want to show him how SLOW our thirdgens are?

tpivette89

a 10.6 at 56mph in the eigth huh? thats like a 16.4 in the 1/4. yeah, even my old LG4 (150hp carb) Camaro was quicker than that... at least it was able to hit 16 flat. after seeing that timeslip, it was most DEFINATELY a V6 firebird

i just viewed the thread...wow. so much information and ignorance in there it made my head hurt. LT1s running high 14s? are they kidding? and they quoted the "old 305" running mid 15s, which if you do the math on the focus's 1/8 mile time, is actually faster than what his ford ran. they just proved the firebird was a 6 without even knowing it

ls six

Both cars were sadly slow lol.

I keep threatening to swap an MS3 turbo motor and 6 speed into my gf's focus or go the RWD DOHC mod motor route, I can pick up atleast 6 of them localy for about $150 each and several places sell kits.....

ellocojorge

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that bird is a 91-92 its got formula wheels, so it might be a v6..... either way for people saying focuses are slow, well the focuses we know here in the US are nothing to talk about, but be very afraid if ford decides to bring there focus RS to our shores

tpivette89

i posted on the site and tried to shed some light on the performance of 3rdgen/4thgen cars but most of the Focus owners are in denial. theyre trying to say that a 10.6 in the 1/8 translates into a low 15 in the 1/4. rediculous

potentially beating a clapped out L03 is one thing, but then they talk about how LT1 cars are getting taken out by intake only Focus's. whats next? ZR1 loses? jeez

danandamy

Amy used to have a fourth gen LT1 Camaro, ran 9.23-9.50 in the 1/8th depending on weather. Now if a 10.60 focus spanked that car by that much, I'm not only going with it's a V6 but I'm thinking poorly running V6 or someone swapped in a Briggs and Stratton 20horse.

Dan

sbcfever350

10.6 in the 1/8 is about mid 16's in the 1/4 that is super fast keep braggin lol. http://www.geocities.com/allstangs/Page.htm

ls six

Amen! That car is made up of the best FOMOCO has to offer in a FWD format, The chassis is a colaboration between Volvo and Mazda the engine is Volvos own tank like 5 banger and the revo front end is a beautiful piece of work in place of an expensive and heavy SLA/double wishbone setup.

And the car it's self is the smallest lightest version of Fords corperate small car platform, it's a light weight MazdaSpeed3 with about 40 extra horsepower.

jensen73110

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Yikes.
When you hear a buzzy 4 banger all day, a v6 with exhaust will sound like a monster. I should know, as I have a 2.4L Alero as my daily. After driving it for a week and getting into the v6 'bird with exhaust, it sounds way mean.
Even an LG4 should beat that guy in the 1/8th. That Foci beat a v6 in the vid. Good job.

ls six

Well that Quad 2.4 in your alero is known to be an unplesant sounding and coarse feeling 4 banger, I can tell you if a given GM has that motor or something else just by sitting in the drivers seat. It's an atribute that most larger 4 cyls share.

A small 4 cyl can be quite smooth though, some Hondas through the 90's for example and those Nissan 1.8L CA motors I was talking about.

Ofcourse it's the nature of inline fours that they have bad second order harmonics where I6's and 90* V8's are naturaly resistant.

89IrocZ350TPI

This thread is full of fail.

soultron

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This is the worst of these threads yet.

BrdWAtti2d

Ask and ye shall receive, call out posted.
http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/s...d.php?t=212077

Street Lethal

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@ this thread....

jensen73110

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Dude, that's like calling out an Escort or Accent. WTF?

BrdWAtti2d

Man the guy was so full of himself for knocking off what was obviously a V6 Firebird, and one with some issues I'd say. It had to be done.

tpivette89

nice. are you on www.ltxtech? what mods do you have (if any). track times? PM me if you dont want to list them on a public message board

looks like the guy who started that thread disappeared and is having a turbo Focus step up and fight his battles for him. what does that have anything to do with his claim that his intake only Focus beat an LT1?

danandamy

"....hah very nice. i saw a new viper srt10 on spray get beat by a boosted civic hatch at orlando speed world a while ago....."


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