PhLaXuS

I had an acquaintance tell me that in the area I live, if you run 10.0 seconds or faster, by law the track has to report it to the DMV and then you are unable to register your vehicle for street use. The interesting hook on this is that if you then make another run and run slower then 10 seconds, you're once again allowed to register. Seems like a stupid rule to me and an even dumber "out". Anyone ever hear of something like this?

sleepybu

where you here that

PhLaXuS

South Florida

The_Raven

I don't know about Florida laws, but I'd saw BS on that one.

BTW, what's this have to do wit power adders?

grover85

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take your plates off

sleepybu

PhLaXuS

It has nothing specifically to do with power adders except that I know of no other way to get a thirdgen to 10 seconds without one

I'll ask the guy who told me this tale if you have to run plates. I couldn't imagine they'd require plates at a track since a lot of these cars are track only and never had plates.

ross

I have a car that runs faster than 10.0 never had a problem. I have raced at moroso ,Braditon ,Orlando. Think about it how could some one race dot legal races that req the car to be registered and live in FL.

The_Raven

The Orlando race that just happened a couple weeks ago, must have had a bunch new tags passed along, since to run there, you'll usually have to have a sub 9 second street car.

PhLaXuS

This was passed along to me as fact, but did seem a bit off...that's why I was asking here. That all kind of puts it into a better perspective.

FSTFBDY

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never heard that one when I lived in FLA and ran at Desoto (bradenton) all the time.

88IROC350TPI

Whoever told you that you should NEVER listen to again... EVER

The_Raven

QFT!

Free Bird

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You should read more....

18inchboyds

i cant believe that , i dont live in fla but i do know their laws from family living there and then me living there for a few weeks this years , i love fla, no tint laws, no inspection , and no front plate, theirs no way i believe that . They dont even have an inspection down there, so i mean i dont get it . Seems like bs but i would like to hear a follow up on this .

TexasLT1

someone is blowing smoke up your ***.

grover85

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So what if its true. Just run slower then 10.0 on the last run and they wont do it according to what you said.

JAYDUBB

Sounds like baloney to me...

paul_huryk

If that is the case, why do fast bikes have plates - quite a few of them run 10's or better?

Call up Lt Castillo from Miami Vice and ask him.....

ibmtech

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I have a 1987 Blown/N2O IROC that doesn't run under 10's but I have a few friends of which one has a twin turbo 63 Falcon that runs in the 8.49 in a Quarter and he uses it almost as a daily driver.. Now he is putting in a new engine to get his time down in the lower 8's.. Kinda wish I had 1/2 of his H.P.

PhLaXuS

Holy crap, man...sounds like a crazy strong drivetrain.

83 Crossfire TA

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He’s full of it.

BUT

Geico had a bunch of people at one of the local tracks, took pictures of the plates in the staging lanes and then apparently canceled their policies if they were insured by Geico, so “****” does happen…

ibmtech

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That has an easy solution then.. Everyone should remove your plates when you arrive at the track. Somehow I just can't picture an insurance agent standing in the grandstands recording plate numbers & E.T.'s but I guess it could happen. Not to mention that he would have to have an inside connection in the Police dept that would be willing to sit down behind the computer and punch in all them plates and find out who their insurance carriers were. Sounds alot like a DWI cruiser waiting outside a bar to catch people drinking and driving.. If unsure remove plates to be safe.

PhLaXuS

I've never read a Geico policy, but most companies require you to report any additional "expensive" equipment installed in the vehicle such as stereos. It's written vaguely enough to probably allow them to legally cancel the policy if you dropped anything other than a stock dravetrain in.

An expensive paint job could have you dropped with this mode of thinking!

ibmtech

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That is where you have to decide what your intentions for your car are at. Do you want to run 9 second 1/4 miles and report it to the DMV or would you rather have it kept quite and not report it. You are taking a chance if you do total your car and have a expensive engine or mod to your car. They might drop you like a hot potato, Then you have to worry about finding some other company to cover you. Or you can do like I do, Don't tell them and take my chances. It is alot more fun not to let every fast and furious or insurance dealer pull up next to you and kill them at the line. LOL..

83 Crossfire TA

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No, they just go back to the office and punch the plate up into their own database and if they ensure it it will come up.

And yes, this really happened, just like Geico really does donate radar and laser detectors to police departments…

yea, remove the plates before driving down the road… sure, great idea.

Cops do that kind of stuff all the time, wait outside of someplace that they are pretty sure to find violators and just pluck them off like fish in a barrel. There are 2 places that the cops sit at after Friday T&T at the track waiting for the squirrels leaving the track showing off…

This is another catch 22. Usually it’s pretty hard to get an insurance co to asses the value of your car with modifications (most newer cars, on the real market drop value when you modify them, at least to everyone besides the people familiar with the modifications), so usually “totaled” is decided on the base value of the car.

Now anyone that has ever dealt with a totaled car is thinking “simple, I’ll just take the money, minus the buyback value and get the car back and all the parts/modifications that I did to it.” Well, not so simple. First, at this point in most states the car basically becomes a pile of parts. In a lot of cases you can not rebuild and reregister a “salvage” titled car. Second, you could run into something like one of the shop’s customers did… we installed a blower and a mess of other parts on his 1y/o car, later he took it someplace else that left a rag someplace that they shouldn’t have which caught fire and the fire totaled the car. Well, now as best as we can tell, someone related to the insurance co or the appraiser really wants the bits and pieces off of it (probably the blower setup) and they’re doing their damndest to make it impossible to buy back the car, jacking up the buyback price, giving reasons why he can’t…

ibmtech

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Must be hard to register a salvage title where you live. In Upstate N.Y it is just a little bit harder than getting a regular registration. There are only 2 places I personally know that will register these cars. They go through a full * I do mean Full Saftey * Inspection and then check parts on the car to make sure you have non-stolen parts on your car. It does cost more than a regular registration. But, it is not out of range. As far as police waiting outside trying to pick people off, this is called entrapment. I have been involved in a police agency for almost 15 years. You must have probable cause.

If you read what I wrote before it says

83 Crossfire TA

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NY is one of the easier places to deal with all this (I grew up in buffalo), basically, they have the bi-annual safety inspection and they just check out stuff that is actually related and the rest of the rules are made much easier. Around here (MD) you have a purchase/registration inspection, where they check for basically anything not safe or something that is heading that way eventually, you’d fail for things that a good percentage of cars on the road in NY have, like _any_ signs of rust on the fenders is an automatic fail.

In the DC metro area, salvage title cars used to get snapped up by VA body shops where the salvage title thing was much easier to get around, and then you would see cars on the side of the road or at smaller used car lots for sale that if you looked hard you might find things like the floor pans under the carpet being 2 different colors with a weld seam going down the middle (front half of the car came from a different car then the back half).

heh, yea, good luck. It’s only entrapment if you’re enticing someone to do something that they wouldn’t otherwise. Sitting there waiting where you know people are going to do things that might be marginally illegal (like as in, only illegal if you stretch the definition of the law), standing on the side of the road and flagging them over in groups and writing all of them tickets is “smart law enforcement” and using your “police discretion.”

On of the local tracks has it’s own road that empties out onto the main road on one side of a divided highway. Most people leave and want to be going the other way and turn around in the first parking lot after the street. If there is any traffic this could involve slightly faster then normal acceleration to make it across the 2 lanes, but there isn’t room to actually pick up enough speed to be speeding (I think the MPH is 50 there). I’ve seen a cop sitting, hidden behind the business sign in that parking lot stopping everyone everyone pulling through the parking lot coming from the track and writing them an “illegal display of speed” ticket. Now yes, there are a bunch of things here that are done illegally, primarily writing tickets for something that isn’t happening and sitting on private property, but I’ve never heard of anyone actually getting one of those tickets thrown out in court either.

you wrote:

do you know of a bar that you can leave without using a public road?

Is waiting outside of a “known drinking establishment” to try catch drunk drivers probable cause?

PhLaXuS

...certainly makes it easier for them to meet their quota. I've been hassled by so many cops it's stupid. I've been pulled over for literally no reason and then had accusations thrown at me. "Where's your weed?"..."Why weren't you wearing your sealbelt?". Now, I've never smoked in my life and ever since Jan 1998 when I had a REALLY bad wreck, I ALWAYS wear my seatbelt.

Some people hate cops and some people have a reason. Not once when I was in need was a cop ever there, but they'll show up in droves if you go 4 MPH over the limit. Kierkegaard has some things to say about such a society.

On the other hand, if you're being hassled up in the north during winter...just keep slowly looking for your registration. They'll leave before you find it, if you know what I mean...

83 Crossfire TA

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Take it from someone that found himself in the wrong neighborhood (his own, where the houses were too nice for anyone to drive a beat up thirdgen) that heard similar accusations as he was getting pulled out of the car and ended up getting hit by a mag light, car impounded and license taken and ticketed for a “tag light out,” (it wasn’t) and then got 11 tickets in just over a month from the same 3 cops after he walked straight from there to the station to file harassment and brutality charges. I know what you’re talking about.



last ticket I got was last winter, right on the county line (I’ve only gotten any tickets in one county in MD, one that I don’t live in, and have only worked in for 1 year recently, never anywhere else, never in NY where I grew up…, the county line is about 100’ down the street from my house in one direction and about a mile in the other) as he handed me the ticket (incidentally, for 39 in a 30 while I was actually in a 40, I was actually stopped, flagged down right in front of the 40 mph sign), I fumbled with the pen for a while, slowly took my gloves off in my nice warm truck and ended the conversation with this:

“man, you look cold, chilly today…”

“yea, it’s FREEEZZZINNNG out here”

“Good… maybe if we’re all lucky you’ll freeze to death, since you’re not doing anyone any good flagging us down 5 at a time writing bogus tickets. Have a nice day.”