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Old 05-24-2001, 08:54 AM
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Vortech S-trim with 9:1 compression?

Looking for input here... how does a Vortech S-trim on a 355 L98 with a superram, AFR heads with 9:1 compression and forged pistons sound?

I have an opportunity to get a very good deal on said supercharger and I'm going to be ordering my AFRs soon, so I thought I'd get your opinions

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Sounds like a LOT of fun to me.

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Should be no problem u might want to get a 52mm throttle bodie as well.
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Old 05-24-2001, 01:06 PM
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Thanks for the input folks.

I already have a 52mm TB, 1.6:1 RRs, MSD ignition, 24# injectors and will be installing my 1 5/8" headers, high-flow cat and cat-back as soon as the headers arrive back from PBM.

Basically I wanted to know if what I'm thinking would be OK for this combo. With 72cc heads I'll be running right around 9:1 compression. With 64cc heads I'm up to 9.75:1 which is probably a little too high for non-intercooled boost.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by afgun:
Looking for input here... how does a Vortech S-trim on a 355 L98 with a superram, AFR heads with 9:1 compression and forged pistons sound?</font>
It will work very well. At 9:1 compression you have room for up to 9 psi of boost with no timiing retard. On my '94 Vette I ran 9.3 compression and 12 psi of boost. I didn't have to retard timing at 9 psi but I did at 12 psi. The only difference between the 9 psi setup and the 12 psi setup was a high flow custom made inlet tube to the supercharger. The pulley was still the 9 psi pulley on an S-trim V1.
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Thanks.

So is there a consensus that 9:1 is a good ratio to start with? Should I take it any higher?

Thanks!
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i basicly have the same set up and it works
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With a D1SC, three-core intercooler and 8.912 to 1 compression, I have run seven pounds without timing retard. I have however injected a small amount of additional fuel via Superfueler. My best with five pounds of boost is a 12.26 @ 113.55 mph.

I have yet do take it any further, but here is my plan:

Water injection at eight pounds of boost and any additional fuel needed to retain full timing. Hopefully, this will take me into the mid-11's. My last resort is to retard timing.

So I would say that nine to one compression is VERY workable.

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