Mongoose

A coil on it's way out can cause that kind of problem as well.

BlackFormula

yea so i went and got my new body parts...got them all installed. have some alignment work to do on the nose and such. but Now.....i won't have the money for paint. Child support robbed my economic check..like WTF? ECONOMIC..means its there for me to spend to put money into the economy...not to pay bills. the govt makes no sense AT ALL! they a bunch of morons. anyways....looks like i'll have to start a "PAINT MY CAR" Fund. i need to raise about $300 more to get it done. so if anybody wants to help out, i wont say no :-) or if anybody knows someone who will paint this car in exchange for advertisement or whatever, no problem there either. Grrrrr...i felt like just crying yesterday when i got that letter. pics of the stuff is below. i still need a front spoiler for the bumper, as this one is missing a HUGE chunk right in the center. check it out..oh yea, all Trans am lettering will be removed ;-)



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Oh yea, almost forgot...cruise in this week! :-)

DayShaVuGTA

Hey BlackFormula I could possibly paint your car. My pop and I use to do it quite a bit when I was in highschool some 18 yrs ago. I now restore old pianos which involves lots of painting so Im use to a paint gun.

May be interested in a barter. Do you have mechanical experience w/ the L98?

Let me know if your interested and we can discuss details. Just throwing it out there to discuss, no promises of anything.

Mongoose

Not to steal the thunder but what's the latest on your GTA?

DayShaVuGTA

Hey Mongoose:

Still up there waiting on me to make a decision. I shut the work down after one of my clients went banckrupt. Got to make sure the play money is play money and not money that needs to go towards bills. I am sure you know what I mean.

I have still gotta decide if I am going to pay $500 (thats what enginewiring.com told me) or so to rework the 88 harness or just cut up both harnesses and splice them where needed to make the car work. In the end after I pay someone to cut and splice I wonder if it will cost about the same. Ill have to go one way or another soon. I bet those folks didnt plan on storing my car for me and are probably tired of seeing it.

Ill probably get back on it some time next week. I think I want to have it going well enough to drive to that deal at Myrtle Beach the weekend of the July 17 for the F Bods.

Any of yall goin?

Mongoose

Not going to make that. They swapped an '88 engine into an '87 car, right? Why not just use an '87 harness and swap the accessories and other necessities from the old engine?

DayShaVuGTA

That would be perfect but the pulleys are diff. The 88 has the wide serp belt and the alt and air cond on the 87 have the smaller v-belt pulley. I will have to confirm that those pulleys cant be pulled off the accesories and switched out.

I thought about that too and never followed up on it. Would it be nice if that worked

gcgarner

Hey, I'm in Morganton about an hour or so from Charlotte. Where do you guys typically meet up? I couldn't make it regularly, but I am very interested in a local FBody club.

BlackFormula

cool man. i have all kinds of mechanical experience with just about everything. what you need done??

BlackFormula

Our club meet is at the Sonic on Hwy 49 in harrisburg, NC, 2nd and 4th saturdays at 6pm :-)

Mongoose

Swapping everything on the front of the engine including the brackets would be the easiest way but that may include the water pump. I think I caught a glimpse of your car in Bakers an hour ago coming home. I'd actually like to put eyes on what they did to the car, maybe late next week we could take a look-see since you're here in Monroe. I'm hoping to get mine up and running again tomorrow. The pickup coil went out last Saturday and left me stranded on 74 in Indian Trail. Wound up having it hauled home on a rollback which sucked.

DayShaVuGTA

My car is an 87 GTA had LB9

Swaped in 88 L98 w/ all its harness and accesories

Have wiring harness issues now.

Some of the harness plugs from 87 to 88 are diff.

Now I dont know what is best to do while spending the least amount of money.

• Been told to pull L98 harness install LB9 harness then cut and splice LB9 harness to fit the L98 plug ins that are diff
• send both harnesses off and have a hybrid harness made
• pull serpentine pulley off L98 and put v belt pulley off of LB9 onto L98
• install LB9 harness on L98 then pull off accesories and sensors that dont hook up to LB9 harness and replace them with the stuff off the LB9 engine I pulled out

All this stuff would work I just dont know which to do. Which is least complicated and least expensive. Which will be most unlikely to give me future trouble. I have been leaning toward just having a hybrid harness made so then its just plug in and go.

Mongoose that would be great if we could meet up there I would love to get another set of eyes on this car. The guys up there are awfully nice and could eventually figure everything out but they dont see these cars everyday and I havent had a GTA since the early 90s so I cant remember how everything goes on this car and dont have time right now to devote to it.

BlackFormula we can talk, as a matter of fact maybe you can see this car too and I look at yours and talk. No promises but lets just see what happens with all that needs to be done on both cars.

tchernobog

I am currently no longer an f-body owner

Well, not a working one, at least. After 150k some odd miles, my 3.1 block cracked, water pump started leaking, starter and starter noid died, and 3 sensors died. Coolant temp, TPS, and an O2 sensor.

Worst part is, it all happened in less than a month.

I am definitely not going through the trouble of replacing the engine. I already swapped from a 350 to the 3.1, and do not want to do it again. So, I'm on the hunt for another f-body, I guess.

Mongoose

[list][*]Been told to pull L98 harness install LB9 harness then cut and splice LB9 harness to fit the L98 plug ins that are diff

This sounds like the best course to take though it may be time consuming depending on how much needs to be changed. Just me thinking early in the morning, you can probably maintain most of the harness in tact with some carefull component relocation such as where certain relays are mounted,etc. Some branches of the harness will likely need to be lengthened/shortened to reach areas such as the a/c, alternator,etc. I know when I converted mine to TPI much of the harness was routed through the fenders to hide it or routed down and behind the engine instead if in front of it to clean things up, hide components or eliminate what wasn't needed.

BlackFormula

ok mongoose, you...think...before noon?? hahaha yea ok LOl just playin man. see you later, with or without your bird ;-)

Mongoose

Afraid not tonight, just got home from FINALLY getting it running. I really don't know at this point what the real cause was but I apparently caused another problem while fixing the first. Make a long story short it's got a new MSD coil, new ignition module,new pickup coil,new ECM and after I repaired the wire coming from the MSD6AL that I apparently pulled out while testing and replacing the list of parts it now runs. And very well too, after a short trip around the block (5 miles down here) I started to trust it again.

DayShaVuGTA, PM me later next week about checking your car out.

I've seen you in the early morning at AF Chris, not a pretty picture.

BlackFormula

ehhh i'm not the only not so pretty picture at AF that damn early hehe

Mongoose

None of us are that sharp looking that early after the first day.

BlackFormula

Well maybe if our "fearless leader" supplied us with donuts and such in the morning we'd be better ;-)

Mongoose

Well, we do meet at Sonic each morning................

BlackFormula

Sonic burgers and fries can't take the place of Krispy Kreme ;-)

Mongoose

Yeah, but they do stay with you longer through the day than all the sugar.

BlackFormula

Well that's what they make AMP energy drink and bud light for

Mongoose

AMP maybe, Bud light no thanks.

BlackFormula

LOL yea well, you've got enough alcohol in that black bird you're NOT driving hehehe

BlackFormula

Oh yea, the gold is gone from the bird. i've seen enough of it. kind of fixed the hole in the front spoiler, got a little more work to do on it, but at least its not just a hole now. check it out.

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