Mongoose

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A coil on it's way out can cause that kind of problem as well.

BlackFormula

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yea so i went and got my new body parts...got them all installed. have some alignment work to do on the nose and such. but Now.....i won't have the money for paint. Child support robbed my economic check..like WTF? ECONOMIC..means its there for me to spend to put money into the economy...not to pay bills. the govt makes no sense AT ALL! they a bunch of morons. anyways....looks like i'll have to start a "PAINT MY CAR" Fund. i need to raise about $300 more to get it done. so if anybody wants to help out, i wont say no :-) or if anybody knows someone who will paint this car in exchange for advertisement or whatever, no problem there either. Grrrrr...i felt like just crying yesterday when i got that letter. pics of the stuff is below. i still need a front spoiler for the bumper, as this one is missing a HUGE chunk right in the center. check it out..oh yea, all Trans am lettering will be removed ;-)



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Oh yea, almost forgot...cruise in this week! :-)

Slowridr

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Hey BlackFormula I could possibly paint your car. My pop and I use to do it quite a bit when I was in highschool some 18 yrs ago. I now restore old pianos which involves lots of painting so Im use to a paint gun.

May be interested in a barter. Do you have mechanical experience w/ the L98?

Let me know if your interested and we can discuss details. Just throwing it out there to discuss, no promises of anything.

Mongoose

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Not to steal the thunder but what's the latest on your GTA?

Slowridr

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Hey Mongoose:

Still up there waiting on me to make a decision. I shut the work down after one of my clients went banckrupt. Got to make sure the play money is play money and not money that needs to go towards bills. I am sure you know what I mean.

I have still gotta decide if I am going to pay $500 (thats what enginewiring.com told me) or so to rework the 88 harness or just cut up both harnesses and splice them where needed to make the car work. In the end after I pay someone to cut and splice I wonder if it will cost about the same. Ill have to go one way or another soon. I bet those folks didnt plan on storing my car for me and are probably tired of seeing it.

Ill probably get back on it some time next week. I think I want to have it going well enough to drive to that deal at Myrtle Beach the weekend of the July 17 for the F Bods.

Any of yall goin?

Mongoose

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Not going to make that. They swapped an '88 engine into an '87 car, right? Why not just use an '87 harness and swap the accessories and other necessities from the old engine?

Slowridr

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That would be perfect but the pulleys are diff. The 88 has the wide serp belt and the alt and air cond on the 87 have the smaller v-belt pulley. I will have to confirm that those pulleys cant be pulled off the accesories and switched out.

I thought about that too and never followed up on it. Would it be nice if that worked

gcgarner

Hey, I'm in Morganton about an hour or so from Charlotte. Where do you guys typically meet up? I couldn't make it regularly, but I am very interested in a local FBody club.

BlackFormula

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cool man. i have all kinds of mechanical experience with just about everything. what you need done??

BlackFormula

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Our club meet is at the Sonic on Hwy 49 in harrisburg, NC, 2nd and 4th saturdays at 6pm :-)

Mongoose

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Swapping everything on the front of the engine including the brackets would be the easiest way but that may include the water pump. I think I caught a glimpse of your car in Bakers an hour ago coming home. I'd actually like to put eyes on what they did to the car, maybe late next week we could take a look-see since you're here in Monroe. I'm hoping to get mine up and running again tomorrow. The pickup coil went out last Saturday and left me stranded on 74 in Indian Trail. Wound up having it hauled home on a rollback which sucked.

Slowridr

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My car is an 87 GTA had LB9

Swaped in 88 L98 w/ all its harness and accesories

Have wiring harness issues now.

Some of the harness plugs from 87 to 88 are diff.

Now I dont know what is best to do while spending the least amount of money.

• Been told to pull L98 harness install LB9 harness then cut and splice LB9 harness to fit the L98 plug ins that are diff
• send both harnesses off and have a hybrid harness made
• pull serpentine pulley off L98 and put v belt pulley off of LB9 onto L98
• install LB9 harness on L98 then pull off accesories and sensors that dont hook up to LB9 harness and replace them with the stuff off the LB9 engine I pulled out

All this stuff would work I just dont know which to do. Which is least complicated and least expensive. Which will be most unlikely to give me future trouble. I have been leaning toward just having a hybrid harness made so then its just plug in and go.

Mongoose that would be great if we could meet up there I would love to get another set of eyes on this car. The guys up there are awfully nice and could eventually figure everything out but they dont see these cars everyday and I havent had a GTA since the early 90s so I cant remember how everything goes on this car and dont have time right now to devote to it.

BlackFormula we can talk, as a matter of fact maybe you can see this car too and I look at yours and talk. No promises but lets just see what happens with all that needs to be done on both cars.

tchernobog

I am currently no longer an f-body owner

Well, not a working one, at least. After 150k some odd miles, my 3.1 block cracked, water pump started leaking, starter and starter noid died, and 3 sensors died. Coolant temp, TPS, and an O2 sensor.

Worst part is, it all happened in less than a month.

I am definitely not going through the trouble of replacing the engine. I already swapped from a 350 to the 3.1, and do not want to do it again. So, I'm on the hunt for another f-body, I guess.

Mongoose

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[LIST][*]Been told to pull L98 harness install LB9 harness then cut and splice LB9 harness to fit the L98 plug ins that are diff

This sounds like the best course to take though it may be time consuming depending on how much needs to be changed. Just me thinking early in the morning, you can probably maintain most of the harness in tact with some carefull component relocation such as where certain relays are mounted,etc. Some branches of the harness will likely need to be lengthened/shortened to reach areas such as the a/c, alternator,etc. I know when I converted mine to TPI much of the harness was routed through the fenders to hide it or routed down and behind the engine instead if in front of it to clean things up, hide components or eliminate what wasn't needed.

BlackFormula

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ok mongoose, you...think...before noon?? hahaha yea ok LOl just playin man. see you later, with or without your bird ;-)

Mongoose

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Afraid not tonight, just got home from FINALLY getting it running. I really don't know at this point what the real cause was but I apparently caused another problem while fixing the first. Make a long story short it's got a new MSD coil, new ignition module,new pickup coil,new ECM and after I repaired the wire coming from the MSD6AL that I apparently pulled out while testing and replacing the list of parts it now runs. And very well too, after a short trip around the block (5 miles down here) I started to trust it again.

DayShaVuGTA, PM me later next week about checking your car out.

I've seen you in the early morning at AF Chris, not a pretty picture.

BlackFormula

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ehhh i'm not the only not so pretty picture at AF that damn early hehe

Mongoose

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None of us are that sharp looking that early after the first day.

BlackFormula

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Well maybe if our "fearless leader" supplied us with donuts and such in the morning we'd be better ;-)

Mongoose

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Well, we do meet at Sonic each morning................

BlackFormula

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Sonic burgers and fries can't take the place of Krispy Kreme ;-)

Mongoose

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Yeah, but they do stay with you longer through the day than all the sugar.

BlackFormula

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Well that's what they make AMP energy drink and bud light for

Mongoose

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AMP maybe, Bud light no thanks.

BlackFormula

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LOL yea well, you've got enough alcohol in that black bird you're NOT driving hehehe

BlackFormula

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Oh yea, the gold is gone from the bird. i've seen enough of it. kind of fixed the hole in the front spoiler, got a little more work to do on it, but at least its not just a hole now. check it out.

Mongoose

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Alcohol,what alcohol? I thought you were going for the smooth nose of the 85-90 cars.

BlackFormula

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i would love to use the newer TA bumper! however, scott & renee wanted to hang on to their extra set for renee's car incase she needed it. my only other options were the teardrop style, which was broke anyways. or the 82-84 TA nose. so i elected to take the older style.

Purple 92 SS

any of you guys drop by www.scfbaonline.com? Its South Carolina's Fbody Association, and we're growing. It might be cool to get a meet up sometime...

Mongoose

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I've seen it before, nice site. You guys are about the same size as we are (small) which has it's advantages. Any of your folks planning to be at Auto Fair in September?

Purple 92 SS

theres talk of us going, but i dont know if we're planning on doing the whole show thing or if just to spectate..

yea, we're a small group, but we're growing, and trying to be the main SC fbody place. It takes time, but its worth it. We are the official sc chapter of the worldwide camaro club, which helps, unfortunatley there really isnt a Firebird counterpart of that that we have found yet though...

Mongoose

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yea, we're a small group, but we're growing, and trying to be the main SC fbody place. It takes time, but its worth it. We are the official sc chapter of the worldwide camaro club, which helps, unfortunatley there really isnt a Firebird counterpart of that that we have found yet though...[/QUOTE]


Same here, Carolina F Body has the majority share up here but we're doing our part. The closest Firebird equivilent is the National Trans Am Club, I've been considering looking into what it would take to start a chapter here but I'm not convinced it would be worth the effort since Carolina Classic Pontiac is supposedly a chapter.

Purple 92 SS

You guys got a nC representative for Worldwide Camaro Club? if not checkout worldwidecamaroclub.com and you can ask for more info from there.


Good luck! perhpas we can all meet up one day.

BlackFormula

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FORMULA UPDATE!!!!!
i got her painted...maaco kinda messed it up, but patrick and i are gonna work on it as best we can. check out the pics!
-chris

tchernobog

Well, I just recently picked up my new '91 z/28.





paint and interior are pretty much immaculate. Fully optioned interior, leather has literally no cracking.

Unfortunately, I'm being given the run-around by the dealership I bought it at (Morrison Motor Company in Concord)

Check the thread about it here : https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/hist...-question.html

Mongoose

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Looks like you got a nice one there. Hopefully we can get a look at it at Sonic on 49 if the weather ever decides to let us.

BlackFormula

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yea...so we can see it in the daylight ;-)

my89

I'm up in Chapel Hill- I'll have to come down some time. 2nd and 4th Sunday every month, starting around 4 in the summer? Out of curiosity are there any cruise ins or clubs closer to Durham?

Slowridr

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Hey Id like to get in on the Sonic meetings. How do we get an update on when that will start.

Any you all have a TPI in your cars (local that is). I am still cleaning up drivability issues with my car. The most recent is sputtering. My car gave me a code 23 MAT/IAT and I found my MAT/IAT sensor is unplugged I have found nothing on the site showing where this plugs into the harness.

The Service Manual does not help one bit. Maybe I could peek under the hood of another TPI car and maybe find where this thing plugs in.

Take a look at these threads I posted and yall chime in as to what yall think is going on if you would please.

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/elec...down-need.html

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tpi/...lem-gurus.html

BLAK MGK

The cruise-ins have never stopped. They are the 2nd and 4th Saturday of every month. Even the cold months. Come on out and visit awhile.

Slowridr

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Glad to hear it. I will sputter up there in my car then and maybe you guys can throw some suggestions at me.

ebmiller88

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I "sputtered" out of there the last time I made it and alas, she's still sputtering. Thanks to a number of things I haven't had the time to really tear into it and figure it out. Mongoose was a real help as far as troubleshooting went. Then 3 hours after he left it was back at it. Damn gremlins...

Ed

BlackFormula

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lol mongoose is always a great help, thats not news...ehehe. hey, if you really wanna solve those gremlins, here's what you need:
a B.F.H.
Quarter stick TNT
Duct Tape
Carn Cleaner Spray
Lighter
That will take care of those pesky gremlins forever.

Mongoose

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We probably could have saved that IROC too, but you had to go carb.....

BlackFormula

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all my life i yearned for a good carb'd bird...the one i had, i had to let go with no title. so you know that feeling..

bluerocz

Soooo. What time will most folks be at sonic tomorrow?? 6pm??? The website for the club says April is still Winter hours and you meet @ 2 but earlier in this post it says 6pm...I just dont want to be late for my first visit. LMK

Looking forward to meeting you folks. Thanks

Mongoose

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The time isn't supposed to be changed until the first meet in May but I'll check with El Presidente just to be sure and post it here. Maybe we'll get his RS up and running finally tomorrow and it can make an appearance. If not I've got a .40cal with it's name on it!

Mongoose

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Confirmed: starts at 2pm tomorrow. Time change should be the May 9 meet. Attendance of one certain RS, unconfirmed.

bluerocz

Hey F-body guys in Charlotte...I look forward to getting there in a few weeks, hopefully with the time change there will be a few more cars. This week was likely busy with PINKS in town and Rockingham down the way.

Do you guys know of a nice 3rd gen knowledgable mechanic in the Concord area. Just looking for a nice shop who can do minor things when you need them and do the big jobs too and wont take you to the bank and scratch your car doing it it.

I am so sick of shops who can only plug and start replacing parts until they stumble on the right fix.....all at my wallets expense.

I dont need much but I would like to do a few things asap and a few more over the summer.

Immediately I need a tune up (plugs, wires, etc) and a AC recharge....after that I will get a better sounding exhaust and maybe gears,

Let me know as I am new to my Z28 and also recently to NC as well.

Thanks-
Chris

tchernobog

You'd be better off doing a tune-up yourself. Hell, even recharging the AC. An AC recharge kit thing isn't but $20.

I'll be back in Charlotte from school in early May, if you haven't gotten around to it by then, let me know and I wouldn't mind spending an afternoon helping a fellow third-gen owner out