Third gen reliability
07-16-2005, 11:07 PM
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Third gen reliability
A friedn keeps insisting I should "watch out" for third gen cars as they have "lots ot problems". Just wondered it there is a particular issue ? Can it be fixed with aftermarket parts.
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Current car 1990 White Lumina the good ole bouncy chevy
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07-16-2005, 11:57 PM
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I replied to your ad, btw. To me there are 3 reasons that 3rd gens, and any car for that matter, aren't reliable.
1) Idiots buy a Trans Am/Z28/whathaveyou, and immediatly push it to the max 110% of the time and just abuse it, until it's absolute junk.
2) People like us, who mod it and change things 110% of the time and break things in the process.
3) Lemons. Like any other car ever produced, they have lemons.
But if you take care of them, and give them the service they require, and don't mess with them, they will last for quite awhile. I've owned 4 3rd gens. 3 of the 4 I've talked with the original owner and bought them and never had a problem with them. The 4th car I bought from a "Mesa Craptastic Car sales" and paid the price of not going through a person's for sale ad. But I love 3rd gens.
1) Idiots buy a Trans Am/Z28/whathaveyou, and immediatly push it to the max 110% of the time and just abuse it, until it's absolute junk.
2) People like us, who mod it and change things 110% of the time and break things in the process.
3) Lemons. Like any other car ever produced, they have lemons.
But if you take care of them, and give them the service they require, and don't mess with them, they will last for quite awhile. I've owned 4 3rd gens. 3 of the 4 I've talked with the original owner and bought them and never had a problem with them. The 4th car I bought from a "Mesa Craptastic Car sales" and paid the price of not going through a person's for sale ad. But I love 3rd gens.
07-16-2005, 11:59 PM
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Oh yeah, my "4th 3rd gen" was an '85 and had tons of emission controlling sensors that all went 1 after the other. They are a bit cheaper to replace than they were 5-7 years ago, but I remember paying close to $800 alone on sensors.
Another thing that tends to go bad, but I guess in the automotive world it's common to all cars, is the alternator and water pump.
Another thing that tends to go bad, but I guess in the automotive world it's common to all cars, is the alternator and water pump.
07-17-2005, 09:12 PM
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Car: 1991 T/A - Sold (sniff) 1980 T/A Pa
I bought my 88 Formula and drove that for 2 years without a major repair until it got totalled by a stupid kid.
I bought the 91 in 1998 with 98,000 miles on it. It now has 175000 and I drive it every day to work. I had to rebuild the tranny and I replaced the intake manifold gasket as the only major repairs.
Yes, things like the A/C compressor the water pump the radiator and thermostat have had to be replaced, but those usually run for less than $200.
I agree though, kids buy these and 4 barrel them into an early grave. If you drive it normal, change the oil and filters and do regular maintenance, the run fine.
I bought the 91 in 1998 with 98,000 miles on it. It now has 175000 and I drive it every day to work. I had to rebuild the tranny and I replaced the intake manifold gasket as the only major repairs.
Yes, things like the A/C compressor the water pump the radiator and thermostat have had to be replaced, but those usually run for less than $200.
I agree though, kids buy these and 4 barrel them into an early grave. If you drive it normal, change the oil and filters and do regular maintenance, the run fine.
07-18-2005, 11:56 PM
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in defense of thirdgens i too would like to add that mine, a 91 RS has had EVERY SINGLE PART in the engine compartment back to the bumper replaced with NEW not remanufactured parts for under 7k... including the 5k i paid for the car, im not even to 12k and my oldest part (the engine) has less than 25K on it....
07-19-2005, 12:04 AM
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Car: 85 87 87 91 92
Engine: 305 TPI 350 TPI 350 Carb
Transmission: B/W T-5 and 700R4
Yeah.....well I currently own 5 and am actually looking at a 6th which mean I might have to change my screen name.....
Of course if Schwarzy buys my Z28 then I would still be at 5....
The car I am looking at is another 91 Convertible White with a Brand New Black Top.....Ok so here comes the bad part its a 305 TBI Damn it Damn it Damn it...Oh well its clean and the price is oh so nice
Of course if Schwarzy buys my Z28 then I would still be at 5....
The car I am looking at is another 91 Convertible White with a Brand New Black Top.....Ok so here comes the bad part its a 305 TBI Damn it Damn it Damn it...Oh well its clean and the price is oh so nice
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07-19-2005, 12:06 AM
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speaking of ur Z.... im out in CA right now, im gunna go talk to the bank tomorrow or wed... so maybe sometime REAL soon... they better give me that loan... mother effers...
07-19-2005, 12:13 AM
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Car: 85 87 87 91 92
Engine: 305 TPI 350 TPI 350 Carb
Transmission: B/W T-5 and 700R4
Originally posted by SchwarzCamaroRS
get over the fact that you have TBI... it took me a while to get over it.. but now ive come to terms with it and its grown on me...
get over the fact that you have TBI... it took me a while to get over it.. but now ive come to terms with it and its grown on me...
ROFLMAO
Yeah I don't think so I have Another TPI setup ready to bolt on to the engine in storage which I will be dropping in my 92 so I can put the engine out of the 92 in the new 91....Thank you very much Then I can sell the TBI on Ebay to the highest bidder...(probably 99 cents but hey if I jack up shipping I can make a little...LOL 
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Car: 85 87 87 91 92
Engine: 305 TPI 350 TPI 350 Carb
Transmission: B/W T-5 and 700R4
I thought you left the boards...In about a month I am going to list the car in the Autotrader I would do it now but I have been remodeling my house so haven't had time but once we are in.....
IT will be sold....I was thinking of puting it on Ebay also
And I am refering to the Z
IT will be sold....I was thinking of puting it on Ebay also
And I am refering to the Z
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Originally posted by SchwarzCamaroRS
or... you can sell it to me... cuz i need another one to port for fun and practice...
or... you can sell it to me... cuz i need another one to port for fun and practice...
07-19-2005, 04:24 PM
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Car: Sexy
Engine: Stock
Transmission: Slipping
Originally posted by SchwarzCamaroRS
get over the fact that you have TBI... it took me a while to get over it.. but now ive come to terms with it and its grown on me...
get over the fact that you have TBI... it took me a while to get over it.. but now ive come to terms with it and its grown on me...
Cmon, you knew I'd find this thread.
07-20-2005, 03:47 AM
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lol... yup, like a fungus... totally... im just too lazy to change the ecm and wiring... or i probably would change to tpi... although, being one of the 1st to get a vert into the 12's w/ TBI would be nice....
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Car: 1989 IROC-Z
Engine: 350-5.7L
Transmission: 700R
well going back to the original subject i think all cars are reliable if you treat them with TLC.....thirdgens, stangs, doesnt matter.... if you mod them for racing then expect to cut its life short...its common sense that when you start pushing an automobile for more power you get it at the expense and risk of cutting its life short.....
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