Guest

Well this one is a new one for me unsure about everybody else. So if your current vehicle is not Insured your registration is and canceled by Dmv. So basically just like having a non tagged vehicle subject to tow if left on the street.
In a good way this helps with your uninsured motorist.

z28gsxr

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hadn't thought bout the uninsured motorist part but yeah it doesn't sound all that bad after reading the last line u posted

injdinjn

Well, even with the registration laws there are a awful lot of uninsured motorists on the road.
Somebody isn't doing their job.

sixpackmtrspts

yeah dmv suspended the reg on 2 of my vehicles, dl got suspended so no sense paying for insurance if im not driving. this type of stuff wont stop uninsured motorists, it just means they will now be uninsured and no regestration. might casue more theft of tags from peoples cars.

Guest

And you will also notice your license renewal will be more than you thought. They have raised the cost of that around 28.00-29.00. That's just as bad as the near 100.00 mark for a Barrel of oil.

smolek37k

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This explains why alot of abandoned vehicles are being stored in my street, they don't want to pay their reg and want to hide it in a dead end street hoping to keep it away from the parking enforcement officers in LB, good thing the parking enforcement officers catches them and tows them away, keeps my street from being packed and me finding no parking.

Russ-So Cal

When I wrecked my Saturn coupe daily driver, and when Don's pick up was hit, the DMV went after both of us for registration with penalties after they let them slide a while. In Don's case, he had to have the wreck hauled off to the junk yard before he had time to strip all of the parts he wanted to keep. In my case I had traded the car to Saturn to dispose of it and bought my wife's wagon, and when the local Saturn dealer either stripped it or sent it to the bone yard, the DMV thought I still owned it. It took over 2 years, and finally going to Saturn to get new paperwork recording the vin number and date of sale to the dealer to get them to quiit harrasing me. If anybody has difficulty getting their car registered due to lack of insurance, or you have a situation where you don't want to operate the car so you don't want to register or insure it, get a non-op. This law might get some of the uninsured motorists off the road, but what stops someone from getting insurance to register the car and then cancelling for a refund 1 month after the car is registered? They then drive it uninsured for 11 months, and then get insurance for another month to get it registered, and so on. As far as stealing license plates to make a car appear to be registered, it is easier to steal the sticker off the plate of a vehicle that is registered. At Carrier we had so much trouble with people stealing the stickers off of service trucks plates, that our standards practice was to take a razor blade and slice up the sticker after it was installed on the plate so that it could not be stolen and reused.

z28gsxr

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From what i understand now the insurance is required to notify dmv if you cancel your insurance and they send u a letter and suspent your registration. About the razor blade to cutting stickers i've been doing that for years i've never had any sticker or heard of anyone getting their sticker told me but my dad got me into that habit and have been doing so ever since

smolek37k

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I have been doing this as well, my Dad got me in the habit from my first car, he told me about his personal experiences from stolen plate stickers.

Russ-So Cal

Hopefully that will work to keep the uninsured motorists off the roads; but with all of the illegals on the road driving without driver's licenses, why would I expect them to bother about registration. Once they got their sticker, why would they care about a letter suspending their registration. The only way they would get caught is if a police officer had a reason to run the plate.

ringo234

I was at Traffic School a couple of weeks ago. The "Traffic Guy" was the instructor (you might of heard of him, I haven't) anyway; He told us another new law was going in to effect soon.
If you're involved in a traffic accident and for whatever reason it ends up in civil court and a judgment is granted. The person on the losing end of the judgment must pay off the judgment before the DMV will allow him to register his car.
I thought that was interesting.

injdinjn

All these laws only effect us law abiding folks, the illegals will still ignore the laws and since they dont have any money there is no incentive for the cops to do anything to them either.
About 10 years and still waiting for the CHP to go after the pacific islander that hit Chris' TA with no insurance.

Kevin91Z

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That's the truth, Tom. Laws only stop honest people, they never stop a thief. We dont need more laws, we need better enforcement of the laws we have. Unfortunately, going after someone with no money is pointless.

JulieGTA

What my dad did as soon as my car was registered. I was shocked at first, but have done ever since I realized why.
He was once hit by an uninsured person in a freeway chase, that sucked to say the least.


Also it must not be too hard to get insurance even if you are an undocumented immigrant, because there was a hit and run in the parking lot at my work a few weeks ago, with that situation. She came asking for help, I said you're insurance will cover it, but she freaked out, 'cause she had no papers. Probably used a false id to register the car or something, so she ran.

Burnout91

The number on the sticker has a corresponding number on the registration slip.(numbers have to match). I'm not sure, but it should be possible for law enforcement to to run the number on the sticker to see if it matches up to the license number on the vehicle. That's why when people talk about swiping the sticker from a license plate, they haven't thought the scam all the way through. Number on sticker has to match number on registration.
Bill

z28gsxr

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^well all they have to do is run the plate and it will come out expired then when they see they have a current sticker they can look up the number and see where that sticker came from which will get your car towed and not sure what they can charge u with but i have seen guys get their cars taken away for this

Burnout91

That's part of my point; trying to use a stolen plate decal is a dumas idea.
Bill

z28gsxr

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yup its not worth the consequences when it seems that cops sometimes run the plates of most of the cars they are behind of i'm sure you'll get more of a fine for having stolen tags then just to drive around with expired tags

injdinjn

If most crooks were smart our jails would not be so full.

A lot of criminals are extremely smart, they just don't apply it right.

z28gsxr

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hahahahahahaha makes sense

sixpackmtrspts

if your a criminal its a great idea, its one less thing a cop will look for to pull you over.

injdinjn

a decade or so back we were eating lunch in a MacD's on Washington s/o of LA and were remarking about the number of cars with expired plates, this was after the ins/smog to get registration laws went into effect.
On the news right then they mentioned how LAPD was not going to stop people for minor infractions ie, burnt out lights, no tags, etc.
A few days before Fountain Valley said they were issuing tickets for anything inc no front plate, etc.
The difference is, in Fountain Valley those people own houses and pay the fines, In LA traffic tickets usually end up as something to clean the dip stick off when checking the oil, or removing finger prints from guns.

'87 IROC VERT

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This is an interesting post, and for any of you who want clarification of what this law really means to the average driver, I came across a recent article that explains it pretty well.

http://www.carinsurancerates.com/new...-look-out.html

Enjoy!

injdinjn

To me, its pretty obvious which cars on the road are insured and which arent. But its a "no money" issue with the cops, so these people drive around uninsured and unless they get stopped for a traffic violation or are in a accident no one checks.
In the accident part, some cities will not send a officer out to take a TA report unless someone is injured. So lets say you are hit and the at fault driver doenst hit and run and no one is injured. You exchange info, DL, Reg, Ins. And go on your way.
A few days later you discover that the other driver is not insured and the address on the DL is no good. Your options are; if you have full coverage and the damage is far enough over your deductable your insurance company "might" try and track down the other driver. If do not have collusion coverage your insurance company will do nothing. Per CA State law they are not required to help you. So now you go to the police dept and file a TA report in the hopes they will find the other driver. Wrong again. If you do file the report and a few weeks later you want to know if they found the other driver you will get, after paying a fee of at least $10, a copy of the TA report. All info on the report pertaining to the other driver, including info you gave them, will be blacked out. CA privacy laws here. So if you are hit by someone you think is uninsured in the Peoples Republic of CA you are S.O.L.

VincentZ28

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If you are in an accident, the first thing you want to do is take down the VIN, then the plates, DL and the insurance co. if they have one. But don't get your A$$ whipped trying to get the info. Now call the police and hope they will show up. Most of all DO NOT TALK OR ARGUE with the other driver about anything. KEEP ALL COMMENTS TO YOURSELF. Wait for PO PO to show. This will work everytime.

ringo234

Once you've exchanged info there is no way, either of you are required to stick around for the police.

VincentZ28

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Oh yea I forgot to mention, If you have a Camera Phone, take a picture of the accident before ant cars are moved. But if you cause the accident, throw everything out the window and get your lie straight.

'87 IROC VERT

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You guys are funny