KnightWarrior

I just got my new tubular lower rear control arms and panard bar. They are nice beefy pieces with black powder coat and red poly bushings, but while unwrapping them I noticed something rolling around inside the panard bar. Might be some welding residual or something. Sounds small, like the tip of a pencil.
QUESTION IS will it make an annoying noise when I round corners. I doubt I'll be able to hear it all the way back there near the muffler and all. Anybody know?

Apeiron

Probably a little welding zit rolling around in there. You won't hear it over the rest of the noises the car makes.

Dale

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Which panhard did you get? If it has an adjustable section, just undo it and shake it around.

If its the non-adjustable, err. I doubt you will hear it though.

406TPI

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You wouldn't even hear it if you drove a cadillac. Don't worry about it, probably just a BB from welding.

Kat

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Like what they said, either that or the metal shavings that didn't make out from when I cut the pipes. usually I tap them on the table to get the extra shavings out.

Nothing to worry about. You wont hear it

Kat

KnightWarrior

You "usually tap them on the table," guess I got the one you didn't. Since it is a fixed one, I've UPS'd it back to Spohn. Hopefully they will send me one that was "tapped on the table."
My stock open-channel panard doesn't "Jingle" and for $100.00 I don't think my new aftermarket one should either.

Kat

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Dont blame ya.

Kat

406TPI

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Justin89Formy

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suck it up lol. you really think you're gonna hear that little noise? You think that little piece of metal is gonna change position when you're cornering and cause the *** end of the car to kick out? You should have just installed the part instead of being a candy ***, and wasting peoples time lol

fly89gta

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Justin...you hit the nail right on the head, or should I said you tapped right on the panhard rod

Cooper

yo kat, I'll take the "jingly" one if you're just gonna chuck it

69 Mustang

That's the new G-sensitive auto-adjusting panhard rod. You see the slug inside forces itself to the corner of the G-load to plant the tire in that corner.

I bet you take back your panties if the tag is crooked.

Redbird

Man that's **** retentive for ya

I bet you complain when the umbrella is in your Pink Flamingo wrong.

Prime

LMAO You have got to be kidding me. Actually sent it back because you were concerned about the sound that something the size of a "pencil lead" would make while cornering? That would be one sound you would never hear, you have an f-body, they rattle and clack like crazy, you would not have heard that over the door and sub frame rattles. A little fyi for you, after installing polys you are going to hear a lot more rattles than before, because the polys will transfer more vibration to the car. And you were worried about the "BB".

KnightWarrior

Can you feel the love in this room?

I'm more of a boxer-wearing type, I drink Jack Daniels straight, and no I don't return them if the tags are crooked.

Thanks for all the bashing, you people are great!

Prime

Thanks for providing the entertainment.

Red Devil

And you're an *******. (Yes, it takes one to know one, and I know I am one.)

You apparently do not know a damn thing about fabrication and I sure hope Steve, in this case anyway, does not replace it.

How the hell is it going to rattle around in there? Plan on doing a 360º rotational flip a few times? So it jiggles as you go around certain corners at speed, what the hell do you think it'll do? rip a hole in the side of the tubing?!?

Like everyone already said, it's most likely a welding zit. Probably happens a whole lot, and there may even be a few that dislodge after installation in a few instances.

Then again, if you want perfection, why not fabricate one your damn self?

69 Mustang

So you don't deny you wear panties?

The BB slug has the same effect as the flakes of Goldschlager that collect in the pit of your stomach over a lifetime since gold cannot be digested. Will you lose sleep over that now?

EvilCartman

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What? Those gold flakes are collecting in my stomach? Damn, I liked telling people I was chitting gold

IROCZ4BD3

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can't believe that you returned it.Your prolly one of those guys who shake it for 1/2 an hr to make sure you got every drop outta it.

KnightWarrior

LOL HA HA HA HA HA

05kcilS

you gotta be kidding me

robertg

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it wouldn't have affected the performance of the part in any way.

shoulda kept it.

Token

Your avatar makes a great invention for this perfectionist we have here

Soapbabe

kitty, just have a new, specially tapped one set aside to send back to him

iansane

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Damn. You guys are harsh. I wouldn't have sent it back but would've been disappointed it make funky noises. If I pay that kind of cash for something I'd like it to be solid and not sound like a ford. Meh.

philoldsmobile

does Spohn have to replace it? its not defective in any way..

sheeeesh...........

1BadThirdgen

If I was Spohn i wouldn't replace it..............

/\/3\/\/l8l3

For the price you pay for spohn I would def. return it for a full refund and get some paracing stuff.

I can't believe you guys don't agree w/ this guy

He can be picky all he wants because he paid a premium price for spohns stuff. Heck it would have to be plated with silver for me to pay those insane prices.

12secformula

The only way I would have returned it is if it was serious noise that it was making.....something that may have been defective. I want to say that I just rcieved my Spohn Adj. T56 torque arm, and crossmember w/ driveshaft loop, and everything looks perfect. After I read this I even shook it for fear of this horrific rattling that KNightwarrior was talking about! Sheewww, nothing.....now I can sleep at night.

I am not trying to be rude but you give consumers a bad name when you send a part back that is not defective and has something as small as pencil shavings in it.

/\/3\/\/l8l3

Lets say you buya new turbo, and it has something inside it that shakes...would you want that turbo?

What about shocks? Want something in a shock?

What about a rearend? You want something inside a rearend?

There isn't anything that would make me want an item that has something large enough to make a sound, not only would I send it back, but if he refused I would file with the BBB


You pay for quaility not someone being lazy enough not to get everything out. Personally leaving stuff like that would lead me to believe they made this after a few coffee breaks and skipped a step or two which would make me want to send it back for a refund.

That is all

12secformula

Turbos and shocks serve a different purpose. Those have things moving internally, so if there was something in it, then yes I would send it back. A panhard bar is a tube w/ ends on it. He said nothing a problem w/ the item that makes it defective. It would have served its purpose just fine. Obstructiion in a shock or turbo could affect the items performance, however a bb or metal shaving in a tube DOES NOT. I am sorry I just don't agree w/ you. If my $600+ torque arm had this minute sound that wasn't loud enough to be noticed when installed, I most certainly would not return, unless it adversely affected its performance. Man you guys should be greatful that Steve is out there making quality parts for our cars, if you have to return something for a good reason then its fine nut don't waste his time....... time he is using to make something I am waiting for.....A tubular K-member.

/\/3\/\/l8l3

Steve makes parts and I'm happy for him.

I"m not happy about shelling out the cash he wants for his items. NOT WORTH A DIME

They are nice, but nothing special to warrent the prices he charges.

I bet that is how he affords a nice site, advertising ect is with the insane profit margin on his suspension items.

I would never buy from spohn his stuff is priced like it is silver plated.

Here is something I want you to do, You own a car with hub caps? take them off and put in about 3 bbs in each wheel and drive it around....tell me if that isn't annoying..

12secformula

Thats right dis one of the boards sponsers......your an idiot, he can charge as much as he does and most will perchase. His parts are of great quality and he is always working on something new for our cars. There are few manufacturers w/ a quality product like his. He has a business to make money, not give stuff away. You get what you pay for, and he makes a product worth paying high dollar for. Thats how the economy works.

OH, and a couple bb's in a hubcap would still be alot different than one in an enclosed tube, your right though it would be annoying and the only thing that could be more annoying would be to hear you and knightwarrior argue about how he was right for returning a part that was in no way defective.

philoldsmobile

you dont pay a 'premium' for spohn products, you pay a quality price tag for a quality product.

in my work we produce the best karting brakes available. people still want them for 20 pence though.

the guy is being a jackass, pure and simple. i dont know why he is wasting the postage money, if you return a non defective part, you are surely gonna have to foot the postage costs.

were not talking about a crack or a rusty tube, were talking about a timy piece of swarf, or a tiny bead of weld spatter, a normal byproduct of a hand made part.

/\/3\/\/l8l3

"your an idiot"

"perchase"

I can spell

ShiftyCapone

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Steve makes the best stuff for our cars. It isn't even really debatable anymore considering all the homework and reasearch he does. A little slag is normal for a product like this. I would bet that most of Steves cost goes to R&D as well as the HUGE liability costs that he must pay to send his stuff down the road. I am sure he is not rollin in the dough. If you made stuff for cars that drive all over the world, then you would understand. The liability is insane for anything that you develop and put on a car.

/\/3\/\/l8l3

"the guy is being a jackass, pure and simple"

"froo"

"premiem"

"20 pence"

"timy"


www.dictionary.com wow, your amazingly not a jackass

philoldsmobile

if i were steve, i'd cut the bar open, do something unmentionable inside it, weld it back together, and return it.

yes, as shifty quite rightly pointed out, a little slag inside the tube is perfectly normal. the part is NOT defective.

/\/3\/\/l8l3

/boggle

philoldsmobile

ummmm, anyone can change a quote and work in some errors...
it helps if the post isn't 2 replies above you...

philoldsmobile

12secformula

I can spell, i just type too fast, sorry! I just think your being unreasonable. I am happy you can spell, thats super. I believe in returning the defective not returning for dumb reasons, thats all. You are obviously very **** and picky about little stuff. I was just saying that IMO, he was wasting his time and Steve Spohn's time. I said what I had to say so I'm done but I'm sure you'll continue to drag this out. If you feel the need....go ahead. Oh, and I'm sure I spelled some stuff wrong....feel free to pick it apart for errors.:lala:

Project

not worth it

Rage13

This was a post from Spohn on another thead. Explains his prices well (witch I think are reasonal prices for the parts he makes).

George

Rage13

I'm waiting for that one too, will be buying it along with the lower a-arms, Adjustable Torque Arm, LS1 motor mounts and a full coil over set up. When the K-member comes out (wink wink, I'm winking really hard here Steve ) so I can put it all on at once.

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