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Old 10-25-2004, 10:46 AM
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Another Update... How much more abuse will this 305 take.

I'll update with more pics when I get home. This is the only one I had tossed into the /var/www folder. So check the posting again later for more pics.

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I think a few passes with the 100 shot are going to do you in. Oh, well...then you can start on that 327 You can start even faster if you spray with that miss still present
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Miss will be figured out before i spary it.

I have jets for up to 150 plate is good to 250.

I'm hopeing to go 12's with the juice on. I was chasing down a Eclips that ran 14.3, would have beat him, if it wasn't for the miss. So with 125 extra, 12's are very doable, or so I think.

Everyone... Please keep my tranny in your prayers.
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most stock short blocks IE cast pistons rods bolts will have problems with juice above 400+ hp after a while. Have you up graded the ignition? IF not you might not burn all the mix. I don't think you will be able to go from 14's to 12 with out losing the motor, but it would be fun to try.
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I've got a 327 in the garage, that is going to be my twin turbo project. So if I blow this up, I'll get a cheapo 305 for $100, and then start working hard on the 327
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Dewey316, are you going to stay TBI with the TT 327? I hope you are .
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it will likely be some form of MPFI. It is a long ways off. I have a block and crank, both of which need machine work, thats it, gotta build up EVERYTHING.
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lol, I have 2 small journal 327 cranks and a 69 327 long block sittin in the garage waiting for the 305 to blow up bad enough to be replaced............been 19yrs and it still hasn't happened
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How do you have your system set up? DOes it come on with wot or just on? just on with a switch and a 5-speed would be bad bad bad. a wot switch you could get it moving in gear first and hopefully save the trans and rear from heavy shocks
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Its going to be activated by a microswitch attached to the throttle linkage. So only WOT will activate, when it is armed. Jacobs MM will be on before next race season.

flrtin1-- I wouldn't mind finding a SJ 283 crank. Just to keep my car a 5.0L
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I do belive I have a SJ 283 crank or a few of them laying around. what About fuel pressure on the plate? I would put in a regulator for a carb in the nos system to keep from adding to much fuel.
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I bought the jets for my FP. I spent hours talking to NOS and Holley Techs.
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Ya......... thats sorta what I was thinkin also. The forged pistons that I have in the 305 now were discontinued from TRW a long time ago so next time I need a piston (or worse ) it will be time to decide which way I am going to go.
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I'm sticking the SJ crank since its forged. Billet mains. Eagle ESP SJ Rods, TRW 327 forged blower pisons, and ARP hardware. It should hold some power.
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I can only dream of a tt sb, I would go with a long rod set up and a lighter piston, given any thought to rings and head gaskets?
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Sounds great Dewey! It's been a while since there has been a new car breaking into some really fast times, I think that's your job now. I can see it definitely making it to the 12's.

I'm prayin for that 5-speed to hold up haha. What are you planning to do transmission-wise with the 327 setup?
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No, I'm still in the very early planning stages. head gasket ect. will depend on what the deck ends up at, etc. Its all about the quinch area.
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Of course the 305 is still running pretty good Video
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jacobs mastermind would go nice with that setup.
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Of course the 305 is still running pretty good Video
Jeebus, I'm on a 4000kbps connection and it said 16min to d/l!
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Heh, sorry for some reason when I copied that file to that folder it almost doubled in size try it now its still sorta big 5+meg.
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Ehh, still perdy big, ohh well, I believe you
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ok, ok here is the sound clip Sound even though the vid is "cooler" lol
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damn flirtin, i'll have to watch it entirely at work on high speed cause at home it would only play about 6 sceonds and tehn buffer and so on looks and sounds bitchin though:hail:
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Ok... here are a few more pics...

Had to go to studs on the intake, with the nitrous plate + adaptor, it was just too thick.



This is a good shot of how the spray bar sits.



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Nice! That looks really good Dewey, I like how that all went together.
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Lookin' good man. Hope to see some track times soon.
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Best I will be able to do for times, is G-tech and Dyno. This weekend is the last weekend of racing here in Portland, and 2 fittings are back-ordered from summit. So she sits until Dyno runs in January.
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Here are some more pics.

Bottle mounted.





And an interesting shot of me testing the FP with a hacked up stock fuel line. Since I still don't have all the fittings for the braided lines, in which I put an integrated FP port.





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Very sweet setup if I do say so myself. Keep us updated.
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Dewey, you and I think alike... why bother with a TBI nitrous plate if you're using a carb intake....
And the way you did your fuel pressure gauge mounting, just like me .
Good luck hitting that 305 with nitrous. Camaroracer1992 (Joe) was running 125 shot from the green light! So if you're only having it come on with WOT, hopefully your engine will have some oil pressure... if not, 305 will develop rod knock. Good luck with it though and a 327, yup, that's also my favorite GM motor .
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Jon,

I've never had a oil pressure issue. holds 40psi at idle. Hopefully it will hold. Truth be told, I hadn't put much thought into blowing the motor, I've also figured the T5 will die first. And especialy with the availability of used carb nitrous kits, I picked mine up for $100, then just bought some extra peices, I am still money ahead, after buying TONS of braided lines and fittings, along with a brand new plate and jets.

As soon as summit ships the last of the -AN fittings out, I'll get the feed side of the lines finished up, on the new feed line, there is a 1/8 NPT port that is now located near the firewall, so fuel pressure tests will be much easier to perform.
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JEEBUS flrtin1!!! Whats that thing run?!?!
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JEEBUS flrtin1!!! Whats that thing run?!?!
My words exactly. Sick work with the chrome reflection too! Yeah, we need some specks on that beast...
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I ordered it in late 84 got it in mid 85 put a blower on it in 86 so most of these parts have been long since discontinued lol

305 w/TRW 7.5:1 forged (true dish) pistons
2.02/1.60 ported/pinned heads (76cc)
B&M cam and lifters (lost the cam card so I don't know the exact specs but it was the cam for over 7lbs boost)
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(had a B&M 144 on it from 86 to 90 15lbs boost)
Mallory Unilite distributor / MSD 6AL ignition box
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car has 66k+ miles on it 55k+ have been supercharged

I get over 22mpg highway in town it varies with how I am driving
As far as times the last time I had it to the track was in 88 and that was with a different blower/heads/ignition system.
I do have a good idea what it runs, but don't have the numbers to back it up so I wont post anything, lets just say it does alright
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I might very well blow it up very quickly. I think the poor T5 will die first though.
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My 700R4 was rebuilt recently, so I'm more concerned with the engine. That is still a ways down the road though. For now you can be CC's fastest 305!
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Hey dewey, i have looked at this thread for about 1 week straight to try to see if i could ever get to look at your picsoff your set up. Has anyone told you about it? I am baddly wanting to see you set up. Have you gotten that nitrous running yet?

If you can can you send me some of those pics threw my pm.-Eric
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I'll get them back up for you.
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You are the man. What adapter are you using for the carb>tbi?
Have you shot nitrous yet? If so how does it feel?
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Its a super-powershot plate, with the holley adaptor. I had to remove the spacer ring, and trim the air-cleaner stud to get it to fit under the hood.

Car wouldn't start last week when i tried to fire it up, so i need to chase that down first (I think the fuel pump may have died....again.)

I'm also still waiting for 1 fitting to ship from summit, so I can finish converting the fuel lines to braided.
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hey dewey what jets are you using?
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This is the second time i do it. -Eric
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I put 100 in this weekend, it took it like a champ. I'm going to be upping it to 150.

If you wanna see what 100 is like....

CLICK HERE
(yes, my tach is very broken, there is an aftermarket on the left side of the steering wheel


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