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Old 12-29-2004, 07:53 AM
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Need budget rebuild suggestions for my 406

Ok, here is what I have.

400 2 bolt block .030 over
cast oem crank
oem 5.565 rods
cast flat top pistons
Fastburn heads
Super Victor intake
Demon 850DP
Hooker 2210's

I would like to go to a 5.7 inch bushed rod and pretty much have to stick to a flat top piston for my heads.

Cam suggestions are welcome as well.

Car ran 12.25@110 with the old motor with a 500/512 cam.

Need to keep the cost down so forged pistons are likely out.
Old 12-29-2004, 07:59 AM
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KB pistons i've used can have a floating pin, gm PM rods and have them bushed, might want to compare cost aginst buying bushed rods, but i bet the PM rods are cheaper. why are you wanting bushed rods anyway? seems like a mismatch to me.
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I agree with ede. The advantage to a bushed rod is a double pivot point in the event of binding due to overheated etc. A cast piston will likely fail (in this extreme situation) before the rod binds up. With a stock type piston and crank "I" would not lose a bit of sleep using a press fit rod. This should help the budget.
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Cheap slugs that work well? Try Keith Black Hypereutectics. I beat the snot outta them in MANY engines. If you follow their (unique) ring gap recommendations per the supplied instructions you will likely never have a problem with them. They are also resonably light. Usually a little lighter than a stock piston. Compare that with some other manufacturer's hypereutectic slugs and you'll find there are some out there that weigh a TON (Speed Pro hypers can be as much a 90g more per piston/pin combo than the KBs despite similar design and specs).

They can be used with either a press-fit rod pin or full-floating with (supplied) spiro-locks. I run mine full-floating by just honing out the rod's small end a few thou without a bushing, but that's not really the way to go if you regularly put a fair number of street miles on the engine.
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yep get a set of hyperutetics

they are normally about 250 a set. Actually, I have a set that had 20hours on them. They are .040" over and are mounted on a set of X rods. They are just sitting in my garage. If you need them i imagine we can work out something. Probably for not much more than it would cost to ship them to you... there are not in any of my future plans.

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The only thing about running floating pins, is you REALLY need to put in double spirolocks. And that is a pain. They will run about 30bucks for a set of 32.

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