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Old 04-29-2007, 06:48 PM
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Head Question

I know I know. SEARCH. i did search and i can't find my answers or at least what I'm looking for. Here what i posted on HSR page

I'm looking for a set of heads. this is my current setup.

383 Stroker w/Holley Stealth Ram
Chevy Small Block 350 2 bolt one piece seal
Holley Stealth Ram with 30lb injectors
Commander 950 Computer
Eagle Internally Balanced 383 rotating assembly B13052L
SRP pistons SRP138103
6.0 inch Eagle I beam rods with ARP bolts 103523750I
Comp Cams Custom grind cam
Duration @ .50 224 230
Lobe lift 335 340
Lobe sep 112 centerline 108
64cc Aluminum Heads w/angled plugs
Comp Cams Pro Magnum 1.52 Roller Rockers
Holley Small Cap Distributor 890-160

I'm looking for straight plug, 64cc, a 3/8 rocker stud, and i don't know what else to add. I don't know what to get either 195cc, 200cc, or 180cc I've been looking at the Dart Iron Eagle Platinum's and Pro 1 any advice is appreciated. thanks
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Re: Head Question

i wouldnt bother looking at anything smaller than 200cc maybe 210... but as for the better aftermarket head... dont know which would be better for you .
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Re: Head Question

What's wrong with your current AL heads? 64cc right?

That's a fairly small cam for a 383. This going to be a hot street type of application?
I'd look at 195/200cc heads. I don't think you have enough cam to justify over 200cc in heads, IMHO.
What's your static CR with 64cc heads? I'm thinking you might want to stick with AL rather than go to an iron head?

I'd say AFR's, if you can afford them. Patriot is worth looking at. Canfield and Brodix and Trickflow all make good heads, in the 195cc area. Look at the flow numbers between .200-.500" lift and see what's best, and fits your budget.
The AFR 195's flow so damn well, going up to larger port volume barely affects the flow. I wouldn't risk losing some low end driveability to gain a smidge of top end power, especially since you have a small cam.
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What's wrong with your current AL heads? 64cc right?

That's a fairly small cam for a 383. This going to be a hot street type of application?
I'd look at 195/200cc heads. I don't think you have enough cam to justify over 200cc in heads, IMHO.
What's your static CR with 64cc heads? I'm thinking you might want to stick with AL rather than go to an iron head?

I'd say AFR's, if you can afford them. Patriot is worth looking at. Canfield and Brodix and Trickflow all make good heads, in the 195cc area. Look at the flow numbers between .200-.500" lift and see what's best, and fits your budget.
The AFR 195's flow so damn well, going up to larger port volume barely affects the flow. I wouldn't risk losing some low end driveability to gain a smidge of top end power, especially since you have a small cam.
Sorry i don't know anything about cams either. I used a cam someone on Stealthram.com uses. he has a 383 also. Yes this is a street car and some drag racing but mostly a daily driver. CR is 9.4 with 64cc heads. Also looking at price i have 2 weeks to get the heads in bfore it ships to Belguim. Can't wait for AFR's.

My current heads are patiot heads. There 64cc. With angle plugs thats my problem. I'm looking for a good head and straight plugs. I just bought some SLP 1 3/4 headers and i don't what to dent them up alot. Right now the headers on there number 8 hits the header i had to dent it in alot to fix it. Those are also TBI heads for a 305. 1 1/2 primaries.

I also need a part number for some shortie spark plugs.

BTW i looked at the heads on summit but where can you get Canfield, Brodix, and Trickflow. there are a bunch of heads on there. What ones work for people and some part numbers. thanks for the input so far.
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Re: Head Question

My above cam specs give me a max lift of about .5168. should I go with a .520 left spring if i get assembled heads?? or go witha .620?

I'm looking at these heads what do you guys think.

BRO-1021001 Cylinder Heads, IK200, Aluminum, Assembled, 64cc Chamber, 200cc Intake Runner, Chevy, 327/350/400, Pair $1,095.95

DRT-10321112P Cylinder Head, Iron Eagle Platinum, Assembled, 64cc Chamber, 200cc Intake Runner, Chevy, 327/350/400, Each $537.95
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Is that a roller or flat tappet cam? Pick the springs based on the correct rate, they're usually all good up to .550" or so, which would be fine.
What CR does 64 cc heads give you? I'd be inclined to go for the Brodix heads, but i'd want to know the final CR, and preferably see a flow chart for each of those heads first.
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Re: Head Question

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Is that a roller or flat tappet cam? Pick the springs based on the correct rate, they're usually all good up to .550" or so, which would be fine.
What CR does 64 cc heads give you? I'd be inclined to go for the Brodix heads, but i'd want to know the final CR, and preferably see a flow chart for each of those heads first.
Sorry Hydraulic Roller. 64cc gives me a 9.4CR according to Eagle.
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Hmm, Eagle? That take into account deck height?
Anyway, with 9.4:1, and a 224/230 roller cam, I think Iron heads would be best, you want to contain that heat for power. AL would lose the heat a bit too fast, it'd be like having 9:1 CR, and with that cam, it'd be a big sluggish down low. I'd see if you can find a flow chart for each of those heads, since they are the same price (and AL is usually pricier), the iron might be a better flowing head - maybe not.
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Hmm, Eagle? That take into account deck height?
Anyway, with 9.4:1, and a 224/230 roller cam, I think Iron heads would be best, you want to contain that heat for power. AL would lose the heat a bit too fast, it'd be like having 9:1 CR, and with that cam, it'd be a big sluggish down low. I'd see if you can find a flow chart for each of those heads, since they are the same price (and AL is usually pricier), the iron might be a better flowing head - maybe not.
Info from Eagle on kit.
13052L 3.750 383 6.000 inch rod -16cc SRP file fit 58cc 10.4CR 64cc 9.8CR 72cc 8.7CR

Do you guys think a 200 or 215cc Iron head?? Thanks for all the help so far.
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Re: Head Question

Since you stated your car is mainly going to be a daily driver, I'd go with the 200 cc ports. They should be more than adequate for your application, even with 383 cubes. 215 cc heads are pretty much for all out top end, high rpm, drag racing applications. You'd probably sacrifice a fair amount of your low to midrange power if you go that big. 200 cc ports will give you better port velocity, and produce more torque in the rpm ranges you'll be running on the street. 215 cc ports only start to shine at 6500 rpm and higher usually, and that's also provided you have a really large cam (250 degrees duration @.050 or better, .580 lift or better) to feed the heads too.
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Re: Head Question

OK sorry to bring from the dead. i've had the camaro moth balled since 2007. i'm home for 2 weeks again. would like to look for heads. I'm looking at AFR heads.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/AFR-1034/?rtype=10

ALSO need a 1205 intake becasue i have the old HSR intake. might look into the new one if i have to. i think they made a 1206 version.

Will these work?? also i've been out of the game for a while so please bare with me and any dumb questions i have.

Also i notice people commenting on Cams. any suggestion on Cams would be great. i know how ot put the parts togehter but picking them is outside my knowledge. thanks all!!

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