rchobby89

hey guys I got a pair of 461s out of a old car that came into my work to I was woundering if I put those on my carburated 350 would that be a step up from the 882s on it also what can I get for a cam I really want the cam sound more then performance I love that rumble

sofakingdom

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Yes they'd be "a step up", in some ways; not so much in others.

Main thing is, they'll fit the motor and all that stuff just fine, but they won't fit your car. They lack the accessory bolt holes in the ends. No you can't drill & tap em because there's nothing there to drill & tap.

Not the heads for you.

rchobby89

crap that stinks what if I can get the old hang down plates for the accosserys if not oh well and about that cam what could I do or what would be a good cam just for the sound

sofakingdom

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Those used to be at the store with the drill bits that drilled rectangular holes and the bolts that had an offset in the middle so you could use a starter for 12.8" flex plate on a block from before that bolt pattern existed... but they went out of business a long time ago

Not gonna comment on the cam; putting a cam with "that sound" will (a) make the car even slower than it already is, and (b) turn you into a poseur. Few things in the world are worse than a fake.

rchobby89

dnt care about the power nore being a "poser" I'm not a racer just love the sound

AlkyIROC

Back in 1970, the camel heads were a hot item as there wasn't much aftermarket and the good aftermarket parts were very expensive. By todays standard, there are much better castings out there. You can even buy a set of iron Dart Sportsman heads and right out of the box, they'll be better.\

Leave those old casting to someone who is building a period car or runs in a class where casting numbers must match the car. Even locating a set of Vortec heads are better than those old things. Aftermarket aluminum heads are very affordable when you consider how much you would have to invest just to bring those old heads up to par.

ChrisC

A good cam solely for the sound is the Comp Cams Thumpr line..Personally I wouldn't touch one. There are so many better options out there that your 350 will appreciate and that noise you are looking to achieve for solely the noise isn't necessarily a good thing for your motor.

sofakingdom

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Sound of power, except without power, = fake / poseur

Don't go there

InfernalVortex

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Get the camelhump and throw some 202's on em! Then get an RV cam or a 3/4 race cam, some pop up pistons, a torker intake and an edelbrock carb and you're halfway there. And if you can get a 4-bolt block thats probably like 100 horsepower by itself. The only thing left to get are some cheater slicks on chrome rally wheels. Make sure you get a big cowl hood to fit the tallest air filter you can possibly fit in there too.

rchobby89

the 350 is a 4 bolt main out of a camper what vortec heads fo u mean the 5.3 or is there a 7)5.7 vortec and will those work with a carburater

rsmith085

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lmao now that is priceless...... Vortec heads for the sbc came on 1996 to 1998 1/2 ton pick ups and up to around 2000 on some vans. You have to use a specific intake made for the vortec heads because the bolt pattern and ports are different but they bolt right up to the older gen 1 350. Vortec heads are awesome compared to anything the factory offered before them. In stock form their only good to .460 or .480 lift I don't remember off the top of my head so unless you get them machined for higher lift don't go above that. For the cam give Comp Cam's a call and they can reccomend something for your combo but for a street driven 350 something around 220 duration at .050 is good. It'll have a nice sound and wont kill your drivability or hp. If you pick a cam solely for the sound you'll be disapointed in the long run

vetteoz

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That brings back memories of the good ole days when we though we were going ( or at least looked ) fast

AlkyIROC

Mag rims. It was always mag rims. I doubt you could find real magnesium rims now. Spun aluminum is much cheaper and better.

Don't forget to have everything balanced and blueprinted. Everyone should know about getting a rotating assembly balanced but nobody has any idea what blueprinting really means.

You need to get a slap shifter and a stall converter. Don't forget the slapper bars.

Any more old school terminology we missed?

1gary

Times 10.I agree.Comp Cams should be ashamed of themselves offering junk like that.

afremont

Wow I thought I was having a flashback to the 70's. A 3/4 race cam, man I haven't heard that term in decades. That's priceless. Make that an Erson cam and don't forget the M/T valve covers, lake pipes and Cragar S/S wheels.

EDIT: I liked Keystone Klassic wheels allot better though. N-50s on the back, G-60s on the front and a quadraphonic 8 track and man that'd be one cool ride to take to the love-in. Some ludes and Mogan David wine and you'll be all set. Some of you guys might need your parents or grandparents to explain some of this to you.

afremont

"p-trac" I never hear anyone say they "barked 'em in second" or mention how they "baked their tires" when leaving a light anymore. Overdrive boxes back in the 50's gave you "overdrive in every gear". "Show tubes" used to be popular on everything, along with putting in a "moonroof". We did too much "flying low and cutting corners" according to my uncle about 35 years ago. A real paint job was 30 coats of lacquer. Anyone else miss hearing quadrajets coming down the block, before you could hear the exhaust? Good heads had "bronze guides". STP ruled the world when a performance ignition system meant having "dual points". I'm sure there's plenty more.

cuisinartvette

Remember those days well.

Oh I run MTs on chrome rallyes too lol.


If you must, call Isky and ask about their "stock lift rule" cams
Sure Crower, Sig Erson and Schneider have them too.
I wont touch anything Comp sells, sorry.

They arent per sey big but they have that sound youre looking for and will actually make real good torque with a not so great head.

Back to visualizing my old mulllett and looking for a feather roach clip to hang from the rear view lol



edit: m ullett is on the censored word list, too funny!!

bignastyIROC-Z

sad part about this is....i jus got a 355 4 months ago and well... m/t value covers, double roller chain, rv cam, 65 corvette ddl hump heads and intake, small air filter, stupid v belt set up, 850 carb. and yes slap stick lol. about 900 bucks in her, to hold me over for my new stroker build since i cant keep a engine in this dang car! this be the 6th one i building. Maybe ill like this one. probably not tho.

DeltaElite121

You're doing something wrong if you've built 6 motors for the car and still haven't been satisfied with your results.

urbanhunter44

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I'm lovin this thread! lol at 3/4 race cam.

cuisinartvette

3/4 race cams-flathead terminology

ChristianZ28

You just described the '79 Bu I had in highschool! But you didn't mention the brass freeze plugs or the dual point distributor. Ah the fun you can have when you don't know that you don't know anything. BTY evryone knows that 4-bolt mains are only worth 25HP.

grumpyvette

http://forum.grumpysperformance.com/...e+heads#p17024

http://forum.grumpysperformance.com/...e+heads#p23459

http://forum.grumpysperformance.com/...ie+heads#p6078

1gary

I disagree with first your user name.Sir,you are not anything close to Grumpy Bill Jenkins god rest his soul. Second it isn't a build in your links,it is a ref to your own web site promoting the same.It is because of that I reported the post to this sites management for review.

Sorry guys for the off-topic post.