Monkie

Yep, she showed up today at around 5:30. So I drove my dad out to get it and we went home 2 Cobras following eachother. Got quite a few heads turning. So we are going and this 96-98 GT rides past me and revs at me alittle. So I get behind him to try to get next to him and he hits it and starts going through traffic like he was running away. So I go after him and dad is going after him too. So we finally got next to him. I am on his right and dad is on his left. So the GT hits it and I hit it and pull hard on him and dad hits it after a while and passes me and the GT like we were in reverse. **** ME THAT IS A FAST CAR!!!

Wolfpack

nice...but i thought this was a 3rd gen f-body board? hehe

Mark A Shields

I hope one doesn't pull up next to me anytime soon. Anyway to tell an '03?

SOLID LIFTER

New hood, the new Cobras have two rear facing scoops as aposed to the previous years single rear facing scoop.

lankchevy_350

can we get a pic of this new hood style? and if u wanna get techinal this is the street race board, on a thirdgen site. lol
kolby

SOLID LIFTER

Scroll about 1/2 way down the page for a great hood shot.

85transamtpi

Your dad obviously is an automotive expert...

good job with the break in miles.

Got any pics of the two cars together? If so post em!

-Doug

82resto

That's sweet. Finally, Ford got it right and made the Cobras fast and capable of beating LS1's.. of course, it's kinda lame that that came out after the f body's are discontinued. Anyway, congrats on the car

Jon

IROCThe5.7L

Shouldnt you drive it 500 miles or something easy?

Monkie

You dont really need to break in cars. SVT even told him that he should drive it like he always will. Even so worst thing that can happen is oil leaks some. Oh well, let him enjoy it I guess. It still runs like a baby.

tpivette89

F*ck!!! just when i thought my car was getting fast (i beat a 01' Cobra at the track last weekend... 13.7 to my 13.5). now that these charged Cobras are starting to hit the streets, i guess ill have to max out the credit card again

CrazyHawaiian

I dont agree. A car should always be broken in properly. Of course the dealer will tell you to pound it so they can max out your creditcard when it needs to be fixed. Hope you have a good warranty if you're gonna abuse the car like that.

Reminds me of my friend with a 2000 celica, 180hp n/a and the engine blew @ 9,500 miles because he was redlining it the first day he bought it. No more downshifts into 3rd going 60 for him! No the warranty didnt cover it so now its sitting in front of his house collecting dust. He didn't listen to me!!!

CobraKiller

I couldn't agree more. Especially since that car has forced induction. I'd go easy on that thing for the first 1,000 miles or so. I think the break in period determines just how long the engine will last.

Mustang5L5

Let's see. New hood with rearward FUNCTIONAL scoops. New foglight openings featuring oval ports with holes for lights and possible front brake cooling ducts. Body coloring matched breakaway side view mirrors, smaller spoiler that sits flush with rear deck and it more of a turned up lip. 6-spds, Larger 17X9 rims. Wistling supercharger

Oh yeah, the snakes have red eyes

HrdRockA4305

Those be some sweet cars. Anybody see the shot I took of the blue one at the Chicago auto show?

I know this is an F-body board, but hey, the more we know about any car, the better. The mustang is not only our closest rival but sometimes our first ally when you hit a scene thats thin on domestics.

AGRESSIVE RACER

Agreed, you should always go easy on new motors (Crate ,Rebuilt, or New Car) especially a Supercharged Motor.

Monkie

Nope they dont. I was shocked thats one of the first things I looked for. Same emblems that are on my 99 Cobra. Maybe the later ones will have the new emblems. My dad's is somwhere between 1-100. Don't know which one yet.

Mustang5L5

Are you serious? When i saw the new MM&FF i liked the red eyes. I was thinking "Maybe i'll pick up one of those to put on my wall next to my 5.0 and running horse and other emblems

85transamtpi

Go ahead and beat on right off the line.

Everyone in the history of the gas engine must be wrong about engine break in.

For the record I am not scared of '03 cobras at all

-Doug

ATOMonkey

After years of experience in the auto field there is no such thing as break in time as far as reliability goes. BSFC goes down a little and power comes up a little. If it's going to die it will no matter when you start busting it's a$$. Break in is checking for leaks. No leaks, let it rip!

CobraKiller

ATOmonkey I don't buy that much at all..but I guess year's of experience taught you that. If it's true that the engine doesn't need a proper break in period then why is it not reccomended to start an engine out on synthetic oil? Because it won't allow everything to break in properly. I dunno maybe I'm wrong but you won't see my spending $40k on a brand new car and leaving a smokeshow pulling out of the dealer. That's just throwing your money down the drain IMO.

ATOMonkey

I agree that if you buy a $40k car then you should treat it nice. I also think that if you have a 390HP car then you should let those ponies run. What break in really consists of, and anyone will tell you this, is the run time it takes to get all of the moving parts to start behaving consistently. This is basically 5-10 mins of idle/run time. FYI for everyone all powerstroke engines are ran at WOT full load before ever being installed in a vehicle. They basically come off the line onto the dyno and hit rated power inside of 90 secs and those engines have the highest reliability on the road.

Nic

He's right.

Monkie

Dude please shut up. I didn't leave a smoke show yet in the new Cobra and neither has my dad. Like the other guys said break in doesn't take the first 5,000miles like everyone thinks.

Racnoth

Break in depends on...piston rings. What your doing when you "break in" a motor is seating the piston rings. Break in time varies from motor to motor, depends on the rings. Moly, chrome, or cast iron top....same for second...what kind of oil control....as for brand new cars....No break in is actually needed, per say. If you thrash on it all the time, of course it's gonna break. If you baby it all the time, it's probably gonna last longer. Most of these cars are driven rather HARD on the lot, by the people who work there....trust me, I'm one of them.

Nic

There isn't a single car on the lot at Cavalier that hasn't lost a little rubber on the initial test drive

CobraKiller

No need for telling me to shut up. You're about as wanted on this board as the ricers that come here and cause trouble. I don't start with you so please don't start with me. I didn't say anything about a 5,000 mile break in but I did say that "IF I BOUGHT A 40k DOLLAR CAR I WOULD GO EASY ON IT" "I" being the key word here..I said nothing about you or your dad leaving a smoke show in the 03' cobra,I made a general statement abouit it. I could care less about the thing. I just made a general statement that if it was me I would not be abusing the car like that. If you don't have anything polite and respectful to say to me then keep it to yourself.

91TPI5.7

A few weeks ago a late 90's cobra shows up at a local carshow.
Every time he touched the gas a blue cloud rose. Im not ASE certified or anything, but a car thats only a few years old should not blow that much oil by. My 91 will sit covered for a few weeks at a time ( i know that isnt good either) sometimes, and it gives a little puff on start-up. Thats on a 128K original miles, no rebuild, on a jersey car. just my 2 cents

Monkie

My mistake CobraKiller. I saw you put ***Monkey and I thought that you were pointing at me. Again I apologize. And dont lie b!tch, you know I'm wanted here.

Nic

Yea, every village needs an idiot jk man!

CobraKiller

Monkie

you know how it goes, if the shoe fits wear it.

Nic

http://vca1.viperclub.org/ubb/Forum17/HTML/003891.html

Tom84L69

12.3? damn, i don't know what to believe. no experience with a new cobra but that's fast. ? i don't know

notice how all those viper club guys use proper grammar and punctuation? strange to see compared to around here.

5.0mustang

118 sounds a little fishy, with a live rear and tires that car would go mid to low 11s with that trap!!!

Nic

Personally, I don't believe it, but then again, what would anyone who owns two vipers have to gain by lying about the times his Cobra runs?

Monkie

The 2003 is damn fast don't get me wrong but it by no way is a 11 sec car. And I can drive the **** out of a manual tranny car. Traction is not an issue. I have basically almost ripped the shifter off the tranny shifting so hard and all you will get is a slight chirp. I did this cause my dad wanted to really see what it had in it and its basically the same as my 99 so he wanted to see what I could get out of it. You can pop the clutch at 4,000rpms and hardly get it to break loose. Nice ride tho. I could see 11's with a lightning pulley...just not stock.

Gunny Highway

iTrader: (1)

Those Viper people have way too much money.....and I have to save for 4 months just to get a cat-back...

5.0mustang

I meant 11s with that trap.

Nic

I've seen guys run 11's @ 110 mph. 118 mph is good for mid 11's if you can get it to hook well enough.

5.0mustang

Thats what I said! Factory Stock runs 11s with 113 mph traps!

Ovrclck350

The break in periord for most newer style engines is SHORT. You should drive it like you always will. One of the fastest LS1's bone stock was Nitin Reddy's....break in style was tapping the rev limiter sideways out of the parking lot.


BTW, I do believe that time.

DakotaSLT

I guess 80K a car does that to you.

And the guys with more than one Viper......damn am I jealous.

Synapsis

My boss (owner of a 340CI 93 Cobra) just had to show me an article in something Mustangs and Fast Fords where they put a 2003 Cobra against a Camaro SS. The Cobra ran a 12.9 in the 1/4, that alone would *almost* make me consider buying one (I'd rather have a Vette). Usually my boss and I get into disagreements over what Mustang would beat what Camaro, but at least he was realistic in pointing out that the supercharger makes that car. Now if GM put a supercharger in a Camaro, and covered it under warranty, I'd almost consider buying one of those round 4th gens.

My 47000 pesos.

ChrisFormula355

I just read through a good portion of those stagnet and SVT online and MAN that has got to be the biggest pile of horse**** I've ever heard. 118 in a stock cobra? YEAAAH right! Here's what I do believe. IT was a stock Cobra with a mondo supercharger pulley running on race gas. THAT, I could believe, because upping the boost could easily net an extra 50-100HP with practically no other changes.

5.0mustang

They had an article in a Ford mag where they dynoed and ran a 2002 SS 35th ann. vs a 2003 Cobra. The '02 SS made 317 hp and 340 tq, the Cobra made 381 hp and 375 tq. In the 1/4 the Camaro ran a 13.2 and the Cobra went 12.7. It shows that the Cobra can take care of the SS but will have problems with the Z06.

MG86TA

www.stangnet.com <-- For anyone who wants to talk about Mustangs.. I dont go on there and ramble about F-Bodys.. Please lock this thread

CobraKiller

boo-hoo cry me a river..maybe Nic has a gold star for you.

Anywho..If the cobra is running 12.7 an SS will keep up with an awesome driver. With your average driver a SS is a low 13 second car but there are those skiled drivers out there pulling high 12's in bone stock all motor SS'. I think GMHTP got a 12.8 or 12.9 out of one with a filthy air filter bone stock. And yes the cobra will have trouble with a Z06 with a good driver. I was watching a vid on the corvetteforum and some old geezer ran a 13.2 in his z06 talk about embarassing.

5.0mustang

Than don't come on to this post. The title is obviousely not about Fbodies so leave it be.

91B2L

If the guy's dad can afford a new Cobra, he can afford a new engine around 20,000 miles. Let him raw-hide-it. Think about it, you just recieved a 02' SS and you have to wait 500 miles or so for the break in before you can let it rip. Not many people is wait three or four weeks too see what their car can do.