Don_89Iroc

my brother in law keeps telling me his buddy's VW GSI is the fastest car he has ever rode in even after i took him for a ride in my car, he says they were really fast, and have lots of torque, my dad worked at a VW dealership for almost 10 years and he said they were fast too and said they handeled really good! is this true? what do you guys know about VW Jetta GTI's??

P.S. my brother in law also said his RX-7 Turbo 2 w/ 5-speed would smoke my Iroc it was an 88 or 89 i think...

CrazyHawaiian

Do you know if the VW is the 1.8 turbo motor or the vr6? I think you would smoke both of them if they are stock. I dont know anything about rx7 performance sorry (i'm a NooB).

Matt86t/a

Ask RX7-speed about the RX-7s and as for the VW, my friend was severly crushed in a street race by a 1.8T. He has an 86 iroc with the 305 LG4 like me.

~Matt

pimpinthaz28

I dont know how they fair stock, but I know someone with a built GSI, not sure which engine he has but it is fast as $hit, he has one of the fastest cars in Kansas City. He is runnin low nines on street tires, best time of 8.43 on slicks. No one can touch it. But he has alot of money wrapped up in that car, give me half the money invested and I could hit low 8s all day long in my maro

5.0mustang

First of all, 8s on a stock block, NOPE.
8s on front wheel drive, Hrad to believe.
8s on a street driven 4-cyl, almost impossible.
being the fastest car in a state!!!! (you guys can answer that yourselves).

It's hard to compare an LG4 to that and get good results because we all know that in a street race you are not going to match your best time ath the track and the LG4s at the track run 16s. I have never been impressed by one, except when my dads car was stock, and we had 3 people in the Stang, we raced a newer green Golf with a Turbo, and he kept about a fender back till around 75.

Don_89Iroc

i dont know what engine it had in it but its a GSI so dont that narrow it down? or did they make a GSI w/ and w/o turbo?? someone on here has got to know about the GSI....anybody????

Thanks -Don

rx7speed

they have BUILT FULL DRAG cars that are FWD in the 8's right now

though I think only mid to low 8's at best


last I heard it was an 8.9 or something but I'm sure they are going faster

but this was a tubbed stripped tube chassis full drag car

nothing driven on the street




posted by Don_89Iroc
the getta is what a low 15 second car if it a turbo?


as for the RX7 wouldn't smoke you if he was stock


88 should be good for low mid to low 15's depending on driver

89 is prolly good for high 14's to low 15's

but they can be made faster VERY easy.
there is a guy locally that is running a best of 12.8 think he also can work on his launch though

and another one who his best run was a low 13 but he wasn't doing that great of driving
he pulled a low 13, mid 14 and then a low 15 followed by a 40 second run at 20 mph..... blew the rear end

but he should be good for mid 11's to low 12's not sure b/c never had a dyno nor has he had a good run down the track

MdFormula350

i have two people around my house..

one owns a 98 or 97 vw jetta 1.8 T , pretty quick mid to high 15s...

another owns a 97 ot 96 vw jetta vr6 , a tad quicker i believe still in mid to high 15s, both are manual 5 speeds i believe..

the one 1.8 T beat his older brothers mazada mp3 and his younger brothers ford excort 98 zx2.. both 5 speed manual cars aslo..

IROC_Vert

since being here in germany were every joe blow drives a VW GTI ( the GSI engine is an Opel engine) I can tell you that these cars are not as though as they say, I did ride in one and it seemed faster than it actually was... In fact I raced a couple of golf GTI´s and never lost to one ... and thats with my 305, so a 350 should have no problem smoking one

curt86iroc

yup, that was me

Squeeks83

well soemone told me today that they are now getting 4cyl's into 6seconds now, but im not too sure about that info,

but they say they have no respect for V8's because they have been around for soo long and arent getting faster while import modding has been around for about 10 years and is getting comstantly faster, i told him to F U C K off because he was an ideot, they arent getting faster because they are at their peak for the most part right now,

but i dont see no f u c kin 4cyl's doing over 200 on the utah salt flats... plain and simple

rx7speed

I'm sure they are there

I know I have seen a video of a 2.0L car doing over 200 in the salt flats


and um..... if the car is able to do the 1/4 in 6.9 seconds as I think was done by ligenfelter(sp?) I'm sure they can change the gearing and a few other htings to make it do over 200 in the salt flats..... and **** shouldn't be too long before they 200 in the 1/4 even


calm down dude ok... 4 cyl motors (or even motors without cyl like mine ) can be made just as a fast for a daily driven car as a 8 cyl

ontogenesis

I'm pretty interested in this topic, i'm up to race a jetta gsi this weekend (not the 1.8T, the other one) i was told the guy has cams and intake mods and is running low 13's (13.2-13.6). no power adders. Anything to worry about or should this be an easy $500?

rx7speed

we need to know what yoa ure driving first before we make that yeah or nay on it

Matt86t/a

i ran an RX-7 Turbo II at the track. I don't know what year it was, but I took it off the line ( WTF) and almost past the 60', but then he spooled and ran a 14.2, so... Where would this race take place? Stoplight to stoplight is all L98 against both cars because of the torque, but on the highway, forget about it. The GTI will definately smoke you and the RX-7 probably will too if it's a race any longer than 0 - 80 mph. Try it though. I like hearing about races. Lets just say that if you raced both cars in the 1/4 mile, I would call it close, but the first 1/8 is all you.

~Matt

rx7speed

I wouldn´t just say that

my friend on his rx7 is pulling a 12.8 best run with a 1.8 short time right now on street tires. and he spun for most of his 60´time as well

but the rx7 is a bastard to launch. IRS and easy to get wheel hop they do not make a good combo. and also the turbo (stock one that is) spools so quick you can make within 15lbs of torque at 1500 that you would make at peak torque

Steve89GTA

With mild port work an 88 or 89 RX7 will pull a similarly modded l98 car. The non turbo 87 rx7's with the 13b(i think) non turbo are more in our league (high 14's to low 15's).

rx7speed

87 non-turbo should be high 15's low 16's brand new stock motor

turbos are high 14's low 15's

but they are so easy to make faster without even cracking the motor.... too much of a pain to port them unless yo uare rebuilding cause you have to tear the whole motor apart.... then you are too tempted to do other things as well....... damn project motors