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Old 07-30-2002, 10:51 AM
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Theoretically, what defines a "street car"

I think that it should be able to do everything. I'm tired of seeing 10 second drag cars with brake lights claiming to be street cars. To be a street car I think it should have heat, a radio, decent ride, cornering ability, and you should be able to drive it w/o it overheating, burning up the trans, or running out of gas after a couple of miles. I just get tired of seeing 9 sec "street legal" cars all over mags, and some moron claiming it's his daily driver.
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In my opinion a "Street Car" is something that is a home built daily driver. Not a Brand new Cobra Mustang, but a car with an engine, trans, rear, etc. that was modded and driven daily by you. However this question is pretty open-ended and I'm sure some people will disagree but this is just my opinion.
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There is a difference between a street legal car and a daily driver which are you talking about, daily drivers or streetable cars?
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Street cars have:
  • windshield wipers
  • horns
  • mufflers
  • DOT tires
  • all lights are functional
  • a current state inspection sticker
  • insurance
  • full interior
  • the ability to get in it and drive anywhere you want to go without worrying about overheating, breaking something, etc.
  • and they run on PUMP GAS!!!

street cars do not have:
  • huge cowl hoods
  • spools
  • extremely loud exhaust
  • electric water pumps
  • gutted interiors

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Speaking of "street legal" cars...did you see the "7-second street legal" car in Mopar Magazine a few months back. This thing had a tube chassis and lexan windows for crying out loud
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I think all those "street cars" at the strips should all be driven to the track and have up to date state registration and insurance. I mean if the car is legal to drive on the roads then it is a street car. I mean I know a guy with a blown 502 Chevelle with roll cage, big fat street ET tires, a full race car but it is street legal and he drives it around town. So as long as the state says it's legal then its a street car.
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I saw some of the HR Power Tour on TV last night. Now those are true street cars. Cars that drive half way across the country get my respect.
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In my opinion a street car is a car that is streat legal. If it doesn't have all the perks isn't still a street car. I plan on taking out the back seat of my car (when I get one) because there's no room for any body back there and I'm putting in a roll bar so I don't kill myself, and a speaker box. As far as windows I wanna put in bullet-proof plexi-glass windows when i shave the locks and molding so nobody can break into my car nearly as easy.

Sorry, done dreaming.


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Street legal should also include "emissions legal" if it needs to be inspected.

High octane (leaded) gas is NOT street legal - big bro says use it at the track only because it pollutes the air (of course the air around a track doesn't count).

Another thing that shouldn't be considered street legal is a super-loud (but muffled) exhaust. Englishtown (good example) has a noise limit that if exceeded will kick your tail off the strip. They only want muffled (and they test for db level) cars typically, with only Sundays (and ocassionally a Weds nite) for noise. Single chamber flowmonkeys are too loud and three chambers cost too much power (especially on a 275hp high-revving boat anchor 327 that most loud & slow cars run).

Roll cages shouldn't be considered either, too hard to get in & out, but a rollbar is fine.
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I have friend that has a 'steet car' that is driven any day. 10" back tire, '67 Camaro...we drove over one hour to the track, clicked off a 10.12 and went and ate, and drove the hour back home.... that's a street car.:hail:
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To me a street car is one that is currently registered, street legal, but doesn't have to be daily driven. My VW has no interior, is not comfortable to drive in on long trips, but it's registered with current plates, and is 98% legal on the street (the baffle is missing from the megaphone exhaust). I did daily drive the car this way for 2 years, but I have my Iroc now.
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I dunno in Hawaii alot of the racers aren't fully legal because they cant pass reconstruction. By your definitions nobody here would be a street car. Nevertheless, you'll still find them on the street with gutted interiors, full roll cages, boosted engines, race seats, etc racing on the freeway and whatnot. To me a street car is anything you race on the street (be it legal or not) Bring what you got.

Now you understand why I wanna boost a LS1.
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if you can drive it 500 miles in one day, in relative comfort, A/C Radio, good seats, and the car has plates on it then it is street car.
who cares if it only gets 8 miles a gallon.
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Originally posted by Nic
Street cars have:
  • windshield wipers
  • horns
  • mufflers
  • DOT tires
  • all lights are functional
  • a current state inspection sticker
  • insurance
  • full interior
  • the ability to get in it and drive anywhere you want to go without worrying about overheating, breaking something, etc.
  • and they run on PUMP GAS!!!

street cars do not have:
  • huge cowl hoods
  • spools
  • extremely loud exhaust
  • electric water pumps
  • gutted interiors
I agree, but my horn doesn't work, does that mean I have a race car? If so, everyone check out the worlds slowest race car.
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Not to disrespect anyone but I think if any of us had some 9sec car that was street legal we would be proud to call it a "street car". If somebody can legally be sitting next to me at a light and race me, which is illegal anyways, I'm not gonna complain because he has a rollcage, wheelie bars, 12" tires, loud exhaust, etc. If he has a license plate then its good enough to be called a street car to me.
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Originally posted by 5.7L OF JUSTICE
Not to disrespect anyone but I think if any of us had some 9sec car that was street legal we would be proud to call it a "street car". If somebody can legally be sitting next to me at a light and race me, which is illegal anyways, I'm not gonna complain because he has a rollcage, wheelie bars, 12" tires, loud exhaust, etc. If he has a license plate then its good enough to be called a street car to me.
Good point, I think that's what Nic was basically saying.
Not having a huge cowl hood, 5" is as high as you can go legally in MD, not too loud of an exhaust (meaning open headers).
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I wouldn't consider a car not a street car just because it has a stripped interior. Hell, my interior is stripped out and it is very much a street car.
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If you pull a center console or back seat out, fine, but street cars have carpet, door panels, and two seats.
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Technically my car isnt street legal. Modified exhaust, no emmissions, louyd exhuast (isnt that bad but still illegal) but it has a valid sticker and license plate so its a street car. Going to have fun trying to get a new sticker next month tho...hell even my window tint will cause me to fail. All lights work, horn works, but i have to find someone that will give me a sticker because i have no cat.
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The car all original would be stock street right? A street car is a car that is legally able to drive on the street. Meaning it passes SMOG and has all the safety features required by law. I mean I don't have rear seats in my car so what is my car then?
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Speaking of this, I was down at Plainfield last night. There is this sweet *** shelby GT 350 that came STOCK (from Carrol Shelby anyway) with a roll bar and retractable 4 point harness. It was by far the coolest thing I have ever seen.

Also I don't know how many people have seen a 9 sec car launch. It's no fast and furious little tire squealing. To get a car to hook like that sacarifices a lot of ride quality, at least in my experience. I wouldn't want to ride on a country road in a 9 sec automobile. So to call it a street car is some wishful thinking. Sure maybe once a week down to the local cruise, but not every day 30 miles in traffic.

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funny how well the 10 second cars on that movie hooked up and handled

Ive never seen a car pull a wheelie while roasting the tires either...its usually one way or the other.
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You can't rely on F&F for any realistic qualities though. As for "street cars", if it is legal to be on the road it should be considered a street car. You may not want to drive it because it only gets 2mpg, but it is still a street car. There should be another name for those cars. Any car that runs under 11s and has no interior should be a "track car" or a "i could drive it on the road but i don't feel like it" car.

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If it's legal to drive on the street? I dunno about where you guys live, but in Virginia, putting an aftermarket exhaust system on your car is illegal (if you want to get real technical) which means most of our cars aren't legal to drive on the street here.
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Originally posted by Nic
Street cars have:
  • windshield wipers
  • horns
  • mufflers
  • DOT tires
  • all lights are functional
  • a current state inspection sticker
  • insurance
  • full interior
  • the ability to get in it and drive anywhere you want to go without worrying about overheating, breaking something, etc.
  • and they run on PUMP GAS!!!

street cars do not have:
  • huge cowl hoods
  • spools
  • extremely loud exhaust
  • electric water pumps
  • gutted interiors
according to your list I might not qualify as a street car man

I have extremely loud exhuast
and soon to have a elec water pump if I get the funds


tired of water pump cavitation above 4000rpms
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Originally posted by paul_huryk [/B]
Street legal should also include "emissions legal" if it needs to be inspected.[/QUOTE]



hahahahahhahahaha me pass emissions.....

I took three of my cats out. removing the EGR real soon. when the new intake goes on I am removing my ACV, and just about anything else I can think of

Originally posted by paul_huryk

Another thing that shouldn't be considered street legal is a super-loud (but muffled) exhaust. Englishtown (good example) has a noise limit that if exceeded will kick your tail off the strip. They only want muffled (and they test for db level) cars typically, with only Sundays (and ocassionally a Weds nite) for noise. Single chamber flowmonkeys are too loud and three chambers cost too much power (especially on a 275hp high-revving boat anchor 327 that most loud & slow cars run).
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hey I want to build up a 327 but no way would I use the stock one
and my car already with three mufflers on the car I bet wouldn't pass the sound testing at your track
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Street car to me:

-Uses 87-94 octane
-Can drive in traffic without overheating
-Has most of the interior, ie. carpet, 2 or more seats, console.
-An exhaust quiet enough to be bearable.
-NO spool, Detroit locker is ok.
-Of course it has license plates, insurance, etc.

That's about it. If it's tubbed w/ a narrowed 9" w/ 15" wide slicks out back and has some fiberglass body panels while running 8's in the 1/4, I don't care as long as it uses 94 octane, can be driven in traffic for hours without overheating, has most of the interior, and follows the rest of the stuff listed above, it's a street car to me. It's not what I would call a "good" street car, but I'd count it. Now Lingenfelter has the right idea for a fast street car with that TT 427 Vette that runs 9.2 1/4 miles.
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Amen...

I don't like the idea of racing someone who tows their **** in on a rollback. But wait...
The Crown has a ticking sound, caused by an exhaust leak...
Oh no, I can't pass emisions. Good thing I don't have to.
If you had to go through that in Shelbyville or Frasier-North Memphis...everyone would be on bicycles. Or Lewisburg, or Tullahoma, or Murfreesboro...
The only cars on the road would be those fart canned ClownCars. Well, with everyone else on bikes, at least they could get some wins in. A few.
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Originally posted by Mark A Shields


I agree, but my horn doesn't work, does that mean I have a race car? If so, everyone check out the worlds slowest race car.
ill fight you for that title (worlds slowest race car) cuz my horn doesnt work and i can promise you my car is slower
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mines slower. it rolls 2 inches and the hood pops up

mark, you missed some good post whoring.
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"Street Car" is very subjective.

it basically revolves around what you consider streetable.

My idea of streetable is, something that starts, stops, and turns on command, with windshield wipers optional, or at least installable, that's driven to the track, matters not the fuel, or mileage, or whether it's got power brakes..


Interior.... 1 seat is necessary, two liveable, only thing else you need is a dashboard, gauge cluster, and console... heating/cooling.... that's what the windows are for.

It's a street car if you can roll down the shore and cruise with it.

Headers/dumps/ cowl hoods... all a PLUS
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if you can put your mother in the passenger seat drive 10 miles in the jul heat (a/c) to the supermarket, put the grocerys in the back and drive home, and the only complaints she has is....
"why do you spend so much money on this thing?"
"what are you listening to on the radio, its horrible"

not
"where's my seat?" "how do i get over this big bar in the door?" where's your a/c and music?, where's your carpet? It's to hot in here."
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I think a street car is a car that you can jump in to and drive any distance at any time in any weather. It can still be used as it was originally designed, for driving every day. There are plenty of streetable race cars, but they are not true street cars.

Case in point: on July 20, we had a pretty good sized cruise in the Yorktown/Williamsburg area in Southeast Virginia. I was there, along with Zepher and Rosco the IROC, among others. One of the 22 cars was a full cage, Primer Gray IROC with skinny front tires, huge M/Ts out back, 4.10 gears, a TH350 and an undisclosed high-stall converter. During at least one of our transit stages, the group approached highway speeds, but the Iroc had to pull 4000rpm just to make 55 mph. That's not what i'd call a street car. Streetable, yes, but not a street car.

For those of you who watch Speedvision: Have you ever seen the World Rally Championship cars? Those cars are all street legal, but I wouldn't want to drive one to work every day. They are tremendously uncomfortable inside, and those 400hp, turbocharged 2.0 L engines are the most high-strung powerplants outside of Formula 1. Once again, Fast: Yes; Street legal: Yes, Street car: NO.
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I think a true street car, must pass inspection for the particular year (in Oklahoma there is no inspection, except in the city Oklahoma city that is, we only have one...lol) anyway, if youre pulled over everythime you hit 2000 rom for a loud exhaust it isnt street. But here is a list of musts...

1. Working lights.. all of them!
2. DOT tires..... no grooved slicks either
3. able to drive where its going
4. cannot run on anything exotic /ethyl ,alky...come on!!!!!
(N2O is Ok)
5. must have front Glass glass!
6. no pushbutton only starting (key on then pushbutton
is ok)
7. whatever a person can stand for an extended period of
time and not drive them crazy (obviously this is
dependant on the person)

My last # there was thrown in because creature comforts are all up to the person, if they can go without a heater in dec - march then more power to em (I couldnt) and seat comfort is all relative to, as is the # of passengers. veiw is all relavent to, if they cant see the road then obviously its not ok , but if they dont mind looking around that 14-71 then okie dokie. A cage is irelevant, have you ever tried to get into some exotics? it makes a cage a walk in the park. Anyway ther my opinion.
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ill fight you for that title (worlds slowest race car) cuz my horn doesnt work and i can promise you my car is slower
damn I just wish I had my celica


I would lose to all of you


but then again my maverick the horn is falling off and it is just about as slow
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Originally posted by BikertrashDude
if you can put your mother in the passenger seat drive 10 miles in the jul heat (a/c) to the supermarket, put the grocerys in the back and drive home, and the only complaints she has is....
"why do you spend so much money on this thing?"
"what are you listening to on the radio, its horrible"

not
"where's my seat?" "how do i get over this big bar in the door?" where's your a/c and music?, where's your carpet? It's to hot in here."
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that's not a street car dude


that would be more like a torture chamber


I love my mom don't get me wrong but we get on each others nerves at times
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Yeah...all those pesky questions..."Why are you doing 110 in a 65?"
"Why'd you throw the cigarette lighter into that Honda?"
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Originally posted by Abel Kane
Yeah...all those pesky questions..."Why are you doing 110 in a 65?"
"Why'd you throw the cigarette lighter into that Honda?"
...
my mom has only been in my car once (she's 6 hours away)
what she said was "these windows are dark, are they legal?"
Me--"sure mom, yea" knowing full well 20% all around is not.
and "Slow down you are doing 75!!! me- mom the limit is 65.....
lol
got to love her
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