B4Ctom1

a newer WRX STi, the fawker has been prowling around trying to wait for us to go out to our 'spot' and we havent lately. The lil' import racers have been talking crap how he's goanna "wax us". tonight after we were done BS'ing on our favorite corner we all went home. I go over the tracks via a huge wide and 0.75 to 1.0 mile viaduct (long one way bridge with no place for cops or traffic to hide) that goes over the huge local railyard. when I head out he jumps in his car and catches up to me.

I don't think much of it but I figure "if he wants some, I'ma give him all of it..."

I start accross the intersection and I hear him getting on it...

so I stomp it she does the squirrelly thing for a moment and I walk him like he's painted on a fence. a whole viaduct later he's about 1/8 mile behind me. I stop from 120+ to a stop at the red light in about the length of an intersection! He comes up "flying" like he's about to do a flyby but the light is red. He is so pissed he just flew right through the light so he wouldnt have to look over at me. With no cop around lucky bastard.

Ive told people I wouldnt race it but I just couldnt help myself this time. I tell people to "just wait until my Z is done". Just wait until I can get this B4C scanned and a chip burned for it.

screaminformula

awesome kill! those WRX's are fast, but im tired of people actin like they are the best thing since sliced bread...

Josh

2.73's Suck

nice work, people who drive things like that think they have a ferrari or something

CobraKiller

hey i drive a WRX!! Nice kill man!

MdFormula350

awesome :hail:

2.73's Suck

uuhhhh...I mean everyone else that drives one , dont get me wrong I definatly want one, now that I have a job (woohoo!) that may just happen.

B4Ctom1

the thing is that I hate rolling starts, they are a weak ***** idea. this just happened that way.

I feel that if this had been a race from a dead start with me on my clapped out 16" GSC's I got, he woulda had me. I never would have made up the difference before the finish.

need4speedb4c

Nice kill. It's always fun to let loose every now and then, esp. times like that one!

BTW: I own a '91 B4C, ya gotta love the "RS" tags on them. People never know what hit 'em!!

83 Z28 HO

Theres only two things I hate about STi's.

1. They are 4 doors.

2. People think they are godly, like the toyota supra, which are VERY quick if you have the TT model. But theres a ***** at our school with a civic DX (rofl) with just efi, and hes bein mr. bada** and stuff. Well he wants a supra bad, but he just wants it cause they look "cool". Tell you the truth, IDK if he knows what a turbo does.

Oh yea hes obseessed with NAAAAAWWWSSS LOL. He asked me if he could hook some up with a go kart rofl.

87camarodan

haha nawwws.

ps im not calling you a moron.

slickrock55

Those subie's can be pretty quick with upgraded turbo and tuning, but it takes a little more than talk to get that done

Nice kill!

25thmustang

And it is faster than most cars on this board! But still I like the WRCs and will give respect to a fast car, whether American or Japanese!

BRIrocZ

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Good kill! WRX's are neat cars, I'd drive one.

bigals87z28

nice.. .the STi's are a huge step up from the regualr run of the mill wrx. good kill.

25thmustang

Hey, he is almost faster than me and not too long ago would have been faster than me too!

need4speedb4c

Since were talking about them, I'll throw in my .02...They are pretty quick, low 13's is a competition to the f-body's no doubt.

But I'm sorry, it looks like a piece of crap the gold wheels are butt ugly, and the "scoop" look's reatareded as well.

Bottom line, there's a thing called style, and the wrx of any kind, lacks it...

-Mace

BRIrocZ

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25thmustang, just messin' with ya dude! He'd kick the crap out of my '89 and scare the hell out of me if I were in the '88.

I don't think the STI looks too bad. The wing is a little much for me but the larger hood scoop balances it out. I like Evo more though. More of a sleek look and the front mount intercooler looks wicked.

CobraKiller

Only problem with the EVO is they're highly over rated IMO. I've yet to see one break a 13.8 stock. As a matter of fact on one of my 13.5 passes I raced and severely embarassed one. He ran a 14.2 to my 13.5. If I was gonna fork over that kind of cash for an EVO i'd buy the STi. But I guess i'm partial since I own a subaru. BUT my IROC which is in a ton of pieces still owns all..i love that car

25thmustang

Thats funny Cobrakiller, becuase the one EVO I saw had no exhaust out the back (assuming aftermarket) and ran a 13.8 @ 96 or so. He was at our drag day and was one of only 2 imports there, and the other was a WRX pulling 13.6s. Kinda funny you mention that, and a little scary !

B4Ctom1

Im parking the B4C and racing him in the 1993 escudo-ru loyale.

Here it is parked in front of the outlaw (a hick bar) in the only spot that was open (a pile of construction dirt/mud) nobody wanted to park near.

Can anyone tell what the plate frame is?

B4Ctom1

oh and BTW it has come to my attention some of you might think my B4C is stock. please check the link in my sig of it and scroll to the link at the bottom of my B4C's page to see the buildup. As I said elsewhere here in another post in stree ricing, "I built it to eat vipers and crap ZO6's..."

SSC

I had one line up to me at the track a few months ago, same night I broke nearly every valve spring in my 402. I dident have a problem taking it. If I remember he only ran a 14.4 at altitude but had a better 60 then I did. Time slip is somwhere around here.

2.73's Suck

hahaha B4C your avatar cracks me up, where did you find that and do they have a skunk one?

mw66nova

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that looks to be a nitrous express tag thingy. i have one on my lumina mini-van.

B4Ctom1

no, my avitar is in referrence to this... http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/

for referrence I had the badger avitar, this one is from the hemi commercial.

2.73's Suck

LOL!!! thats awsome

B4Ctom1

HUGE NIGHT OF RACING!

This also makes a great update

I did go to a dyno and the car untuned as of yet made 286 RW HP and 378 ft lbs RW

I havent tuned it due to the fact I have no scans of it yet. I am having a communications issue with the scan cable and my newer laptop. I did make a chip with no EGR code though. and messed with fan temp and converter lockup speed.

Well yesterday, "BB" took the 26" ET streets off of the JYD in favor of some 28" ones. He gave me the 26" ones. I busted out the convo pros I bought for the 91 out of thier boxes. I put those 26's on the 8.5" rears and the pizza cutters got 165/15's. The car with its roadrace suspension stance (lowered) looks so bad *** that pictures may not do it justice. I put them on the 92 B4C and took it out street racing. I was worried about it being lean and also lean detonating, so I simply put two or three full turns into the AFPR. with no gauge on the car without taking the time to put one on I have no idea what the pressure was. I do know it immediately showed more power. just a bit though. It doesnt fall on its face as bad anymore.

anyhow, I was so inspired, I changed the oil, fixed the drain plug leak (maybe), filled her up with gas, and took it street racing.

I went to the new spot. BTW if you don't have a starting line don't invite me to race. I get so tired of jackasses doing ***** flybys and telling me about how they won (yeah right at hat the 3/4 mile mark?) lol anyways, all the cars depicted below were on slicks or ET streets except the "truck"

racenight conditions: temp 29 degrees, light breeze, mostly clear, 6000 feet altitude.

I raced my car 5 times:

race #1: me vs the 5.0 twin turbo. its a mass air late model 5.0 (89 or something) with a twin kit running only 6 lbs boost. He spun a bit the first time and I killed him to the tune of 8 to 10 cars.

race #2: Im a good sport so I double up and we run again back to back no cooling. we both launched hard and I kill him to the tune of 6 or 7 cars good start this time.

race #3: a "supposedly" stock 5.0 with a "few bolt ons" I didnt pry much, but he was sincerely sure I would probably beat him. Like I said Im a sportsman, so I gave him first move instead of a hand start. He came out of the hole hard, I spun slightly, I caught him just after I shifted second anyhow. He was dumbfounded afterwards back at the start "when I came out that hard on you I thought I had you for sure."

race #4: me against my old car the JYD motor to motor. The poor JYD suffers from a poorly tuned DFI and runs rich all motor. anyhow we only raced half way because I killed him so bad. Next time I will race him with his bottle on.

race #5: Me against my pal "BM". His 5.0 is a 306 13:1 with yates heads and a trans brake all motor in a very light carbed 84 or 85 nicely done stang. runs 12's at 6000 feet (Bandemere Speedway). Simply put: pwn3d me! not only did he put the smack on me but if my car had run this bad the other races I woulda really been whupped.

The truck:

owned by "DN" Sr a show quality 1963 ford truck 13:1 557 cid full roller solid daily driven BBF with nitrous assembled 4 days ago

note: for those that are non believers about the daily driver status, the truck runs on 91 with 24 degrees total timing at this altitude is no sweat, lack of O2 dampens/fights detonation and can be seen in front of a popular auto parts store in cheyenne daily when he is at work

Running on radial due to the daily grind, didnt think to put his huge ET streets on (don't know why). Running 295/60/15's or something like that decided to race it. His son "DN" Jr decided to race "BB" in the JYD on bottle.

The truck vs JYD #1: drivers "DN Jr vs BB": I sold the JYD to "BB" a few years ago and he just pulled it out of his parents yard after a two year hiatus. He is a lazy bum what can I say. Well BB never really had alot of races in it but now was racing it against the biggest piece of hardware out here. After a few **** poor practice launches and a pitiful burnout. he lines up. the truck on radials does no bun out. the truck spins (yeah go figure) and BB comes out really well then gets crossed up they are doing a downrange mambo threatening to share paint. "BB" lifts and the truck recovers the lead that BB had and makes good on a victory.

note: the DFI in the JYD controls the nitrous is set for a 0.500 second delay for traction. unfortunately it delays the nitrous half second every time the throttle is lifted

JYD vs the truck #2: drivers SN vs. me in the JYD. I do a vicious burnout, tires sticky and hot on the cold road. SN is a better racer than his bro sometimes. This time proved to be no different. I launched a t a lower RPM to avoid some spin and we launched side by side. Half second into it nitrous activates, launch is really hard then and the seat snaps I m nearly tossed into the rear seat but a good hold of the steering wheel saves me. I shift second BUT! OH NO I DIDNT POWER SHIFT! another half second delay of nitrous he gets a half truck lead on me, I shift third still wrestling to stay sitting up right BUT! OHNO NOT AGAIN! I didnt power shift another half second delay and the other half of the truck slips ahead of me

oh well there is always next weekend...

ddn69

Them STIs are quick. Whats your 1/4 time? I think the STI is low 13s. Stock thats nothing to gawk over. I agree rolling races dont mean ****. Id much rather race from a dead stop. But nice kill. I didnt fully understand your description of the race though...

B4Ctom1

I dont know what the 1/4 is yet.

which description? the one of the WRX race at the beggining of the thread? or the one of the huge night of racing last weekend?

PETE

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That is too ****ing funny TOM! I can just imagine your knees hitting the wheel and your abs cursing you for the torture of trying to remain at a 90* angle. HAHA too damn funny!

B4Ctom1

here is the problem though, I have done this in a few of my old third gens. I intend tu run the stock seats in the 91 project. My pal don used an adjustable bolt in bracket that helped avoid overtravel and breakage by bracing it against the back bar on the cage in his high 8 second street 5.0 . I had not given it much thought. I see I will have to address this or risk having a really bad problem on a car that could end up being pretty fast.

CHEVY_EATER

A kid with a DEAD stock Sti ran a 12.8@108 at my track a few months ago with a 1.8 60ft time. I was VERY impressed. We have 2 of them at my work, one black and one blue. If I made more $$ I'd buy the black one, damn nice car! BTW, I work at a Chevy/Subaru dealer in the parts department!

I have a friend with a EVO and it ran a 13.3@104 with a catback, MBC, and intake. We found out later that the open element intake hurts power more than helps on the EVO, sicne alot of guys have ran low 13's with less mods than him. I still think the Subie is faster though.

Anyone looking for Subaru/Chevy parts let me know! The more I sell the more $$ I make!

B4Ctom1

Thanks inwo for helping me out there I was having some serious malfunctions that was causing my keyboard to post while typing.

Another “not so” big night of racing last night?


After meeting at the usual spot, we decided that we could bust it off at location “B” again because location “A” is a long drive and might still be too hot and we had such a good go of it at “B” the last time.

The tally of cars in attendance at this point was a 1967 tubbed 468 Chevelle, a mini tubbed 1970? Nova with 500+ cid, the 1963 truck with the 557cid Ford (see above earlier race post), a 433 nitrous’d Corvair but the charging system was broken so it was brought on a flatbed tow vehicle, “BM” and his 306 (see above earlier post), a Power stroke pickup that beat the best trucks in Colorado at a all invited dyno shootout with over 400 RW hp and 1000 RW ft/lb, and me and a few other various cars of decent performance.

Well anyhow we are at the spot for 10 minutes and we hear that the cops are coming. So the Corvair is loaded up (about 30 seconds) and leaves and everyone else drives out of there. The cop roll up behind the Nova (his car is the brightest colored) and check him out. It turns out it is a cop we know and he asks us to go home. One pulls up behind me and tells me my ET streets don’t have any tread left and I need to take it home (they don’t hehe). The cop said he heard it there was racers out here from a cell report from a passing car to 911 and “figured it was the r!cers, then I saw it was just ‘you guys” HAHA!

Anyhow, we met back at the place and decided that since a highway patrol car had been zooming around like a barracuda while we were being talked to by the friendly cop, that we shouldn’t even try location “A”. Well, the 1967 had just gotten his rear end together and it was howling so he took it home (he’s old too). “BM” and his 306 were suffering from a battery ailment so he parked it. The cops had warned me about my tires so I parked it. The Corvair is too high risk due to how loud it is and the fact its being hauled around so he took it home. The late hour, combined with the increased risk of observation through town by the cops, and the attrition of cars being parked, we decided that the race we all wanted to see was the 1963 truck and the 1970 Nova.

So we went to meet at location “C” to bust off a quick race between these two. When we got there they raced twice, the first race the truck got so squirrely that his LEFT tire went all the way to the RIGHT side of the white line on the shoulder!!! This was actually the closer race of the two, Nova won. The next burnout was bigger from both and this time the truck launched straighter and the Nova was all over the road, but won this race as well. Then a guy that we knew that lived nearby appeared with his sand rail and started doing big long wheelies for us in the street with it. We all laughed our asses off, it was pretty cool, then we all went to breakfast.

B4Ctom1

the Nova

CobraKiller

Hate to break it to you..that STi wasn't dead stock. They trap in the 103-104 range tops. Nevertheless they are impressive

Der91Z

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Wow nice kill, I think i may be stepping into the import world if i end my project this year and pick up a late model supra TT. We'll see what mine does this year at the track and then i'll decide.

Inwo

HEY I see that.

CHEVY_EATER

Sorry, the car was DEAD stock from front to back. His previous best was a 13.2 or so at 105 then he ran the 12.8@108 late in the fall in super cold weather. I have seen the car and the kid has not even added an aftermarket air filter let alone anything else. Stock exhaust..you name it. This is at a track that is 160ft above sea level. I may be able to find a link to some of his runs. The day my friend ran his EVO they were pretty close on times, but the EVO had catback, BOV, and MBC on it and ran a 13.3@105.

EDIT:
60ft. 1.823
1/8: 8.210
E.T. 12.88@107 mph...

that is his best....

CobraKiller

I own a WRX I know quite a bit about them..and i've never personally seen or heard of a STi running a 108 trap speed stock. The most i've seen was a 104 out of one stock. I know cars vary but they don't reguarly vary by 4mph in the 1/4 out of the box. A 108 trap speed would have also netted him a much better time than a 12.8. As most run in the 104-105 range at that ET. Keep in mind boost changes are easily made. I know this first hand just having my car tuned and the boost tweaked took it from mid 13's into the 12 second range. Did you know just changing the hose that runs from the pressure side of the turbo would up the boost a pound or two? Think about DEAD stock before you are so sure his car is.

CHEVY_EATER

I know I have goten some pretty high traps as well at our track in the cold weather (40 and lower). Before the SC, I got 103.1 as my best trap speed with just exhaust, pulleys, and cold air. 13.95@103 spinning pretty good off the line. My best ET was in warmer weather though, 13.80@100. Then I never ran it again until the SC.

BTW..there is an all motor Subaru RS that runs 14.1's at my track too. Guess it is one of the fastest all motor ones around. It's an older 2 door one.

CHEVY_EATER

We have 2 new Sti's in stock at my work..I am in parts at a Chevy/Subaru dealer. One blue and the other black. The black one looks super sweet...metallic black. Nice car...it stickers at like $31,000...

25thmustang

I just read about a guy with a 2004 WRX STi. That car bone stock ran...

1.776
13.185 @ 102.17

This is the ONLY numbers I have ever seen.

CHEVY_EATER

I have seen alot of low 13 times for the Sti stock, but his is the 1st 12 I have seen. BUT, most people I see that drive Sti or WRX at my track cannot drive for s*** either. This kid WHOOPS that poor Sti..all the way down the track. I doubted the times and thought it may have some mods but it doesn't. Got me. The trap seems way high to me, but it was super cold out that night..maybe under 40*F.

B4Ctom1

send him up here to 6000 foot'sville and we will see some 14's like the suped up LS1 cars.

CHEVY_EATER

I've seen low 14's for LS1's and a 13.2 for a ZO6 here...but they couldn't drive...VERY funny.

B4Ctom1

No Im talking cars with et streets and other mods.

CHEVY_EATER

OUCH! Forced induction cars are not normally affected as much as NA cars in higher elevations. My friends pretty much all stock 02 Z28 ran a 13.24@109...pretty quick.

B4Ctom1

HUGE NIGHT OF RACING! PART II!!!

This also makes another great update

I was going to go to the track today but after not sleeping for 36 hours due to work I decided after being at the street races to sleep until noon.The track is too far away. but I did have some fun last night

I have started tuning but it is very rich just about every where except on top. I had to buy a thrid laptop to finally get one that would scan.

Well I am still driving around on those fairly clapped out old ET streets but they have some life in them. The car hazes them so easily that I thought there was something wrong with the posi last night. I though maybe I had toasted it and was one legging my burnout. by standers said it was simply frying them.

anyhow, I was so inspired, I changed the oil again this time to synthetic.

I went to the regular meeting spot.

racenight conditions: temp 36 degrees, light breeze, mostly clear, humid from cooling after hot day. 6000 feet altitude. I made some scans of my passes for tuning purposes as well.

I raced my car 3 times:

race #1:me vs the 4.6 dry shot stang. we had to line up twice because after our burnouts a car was spotted coming in from way out. It turned out to be a newer sport bike. so we lined up again. he was only running like an 80 shot. He was on huge ET streets and spun less than me I killed him to the tune of 3-4 cars.

race #2: me vs. new factory supercharged cobra. Owner is brother of guy that sold me the white 91 project car. I take the race victory of 2-3 cars it was a larger lead, he was starting to make my lead dissapear at the finish line.

race #3: Me vs. same new factory supercharged cobra. This time race seems to be going the same. we did it back to back both our cars are getting real hot. Im on only a 2 car lead I accidentally shift from 2nd to OD on the shifter and pull it back to 3rd but it held second for way to long on its own for some reason. I watch him slide by me as my car finally shifts into 3rd. He capitolizes on the lead with his top end charge and gets me by a whole car. hey thats the way the cookie crubles.

The "truck" was there, the Nova, and another nova just like it that was mostly fiberglass. The tubbed Chevelle, A very fast very nitroused drag 5.0 that beat the big block fiberglass nova fairly well. A cherry nitroused 5.0 car that was sold by a friend that got out of the street scene to another friend made its appearance after years of absence. It raced and beat the orange prostreet nova. And much much more than I can remember. The biggest problem is trying to get everyone there at the same time.

oh well there is always next weekend...

danteschick

I personally like the STI better than the WRX. I went to an auto cross last year and saw the two run and the STI seems to do better than the WRX although it very well could have been drivers.

Congrats on the win!!!

formularpm

Which car were you driving? Is your B4C the one with the ProTopline heads?