Killogy

I got a few buddies who are gonna race soon for some cash. One is a 91 camaro with a lo3, automatic, hedman longtubes, lt1 cam, stage 2 chip, open element air cleaner, and 160 degree thermostat, 3.42 posi rear. My other friend has a 95 SOHC neon with cold air intake, header, 2.5" exhaust, computer, underdrive pulley, bigger throttle body, and some drag radials. The neon beat the camaro when it was stock from both a roll and a stop. Think the neon stands a chance against the camaro with the new mods?

Jgolden314

Hard to tell. If the neon is an ACR, which i think came out in 96 i believe, those could go low 15s with tires only.

ShiftyCapone

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Well it depends on how that RS runs. I can tell you right now that he is not tuned right with just a stage 2 chip. His car may actually be slower now.

del91_305

I think the camaro's got it hands down.

91gta_tpi

I think that the Camaro has is due to the amount of torque he's got, but the neon does have the weight advantage for sure, but i'm still bettin on the Camaro.

firebirdconv92

I raced a buddy of mine's neon w/ my vert once.

He has cold air intake and gutted exhaust. (5 speed)
We raced from the line and I smoked the 15's up til second and I still took him by about 1 carlength. At the time I didn't even have the hood and about 150lbs of stereo equipment.

(and yes, he drives very well)

My moneys on the camaro hands down also.

FbodTrek

With a Single overhead no less? No contest. I'm actually very surprised he won the first time.

Killogy

Well me, the camaro, and the neon went 3 wide a few hours ago. And let me tell you, I was really suprised. Me and the Neon raped the camaro off the line and the neon took me by about 1.5 cars. We shut down at about 110mph. Why the hell did this neon beat me? With my mods in the sig I should have killed him? Right? Apparently you gotta watch out with those little suckers.

SOLID LIFTER

WTF?!?!

He must have something he's not telling you about (alot of boost)! Did you hear a turbo? Your car should have laid him to waste!!!

Jokerman

I would say you just met an SRT-4 good for a 13 second run in the 1/4 with a good driver. Not bad for under or at 20k new huh.

SOLID LIFTER

No it wasn't an SRT-4 he said the car is "a 95 SOHC neon with cold air intake, header, 2.5" exhaust, computer, underdrive pulley, bigger throttle body, and some drag radials."

Jokerman

whoops, well as you can tell i pay alot of attention. Oh well.

Crazy Firebird Kid

If you didnt hear some sort of blower (turbo or supercharger) then my only guess is that you got sprayed on bad. Did you see under the hood? With your setup you should be at least in the 13's range, and if he took you by 1.5 lengths then he definately has got something crazy under the hood, or you can't drive worth crap (no offense, I don't know you and have never seen you drive, just tossing out ideas here).

FbodTrek

WTF???? A SOHC neon? Had to be spray or sumthing ungodly under the hood...I'm Skeeerd Daddy.....

mopar_acr

Before I bought my 87 IROC-Z I raced a 96 DOHC ACR. Even with a SOHC and the few mods he listed it is a pretty potent little 4 cyl. My ACR ran a 15.8 stock, and the SOHCs would run around 16s. I hit into the high 14s with a similar bolt-ons listed as the SOHC Neon. Im guessing with the mods listed the SOHC would be running in the low 15s, high 14s MAYBE. And with drag radials, don't be surprised that the Neon can hang with a 305.

FbodTrek

I've driven a few, they're slow (even with "mods", I don't see the potential). I saw one run at the track w/ a 5 spd, he ran really high 11's in the 1/8. Of course, the B16 powered civic hatchback (which was gutted, had a CAI, Race gears and tires ran a LOW 11....) I don't see how everyone says the things are fast.

TheNutzZ28

ok i seen the neon thing and had to jump in, this was a year ago. I lost to a neon, had a few car lenths at first, was at a dead stop when we started. Think we ran up to 60...anyways i don't know much about nos or if your can hear it spray but thats what i think i heard. I know for sure it was not a turbo. so i think this neon you went against may have nos too and is not tellin you about it..... I give more details if anyone wants it....

jimmy_mac

I do think you need more intake and carb for the cam you are running to be matched right. But what the hell, that wouldn't explain what happened. Give us an update. How much was he spraying. I would guess at least 150 shot. Do they make a 150 shot for those little motors.

junkyarddog

I'd love to have one of those little go carts to mess around with....those things have almost indestructable 2.2, some with 2.4s they can take a 150 shot no problem. I see lots of wanna-bes that think they can drive, but I've also seen some regular kids who know exactly what they are doing and they don't sport foolish wings or body kits to 'advertise' performance, just stock trim, a few mods...and a well tuned setup.

didn't you look under the hood before you raced?

chances are this guy swapped the heads, maybee did some bottom end work....all things he wouldn't even mention. Chances are, he has a heavy duty clutch too. Sounds to me like he did everything right. The Neon has anything and everything available for aftermarket parts, since it's a very common production car.

One thing that all fast 4 cyl domestic/import cars have in common is that everything has it's purpose. look at your car in the same way, if it's not all working together, then it's just wasting gas.

mopar_acr

Neons never came with a 2.2 or 2.4. The SOHC he would have in his Neon would be a 2.0, unless he's swapped it. And the engine would handle a 150 shot once MAYBE, then it would blow apart. A 75 shot is about the safest you can run on stock internals. If he was running any nitrous or turbo it would have been a different story. Reason being a SOHC with a basic turbo kit runs high 13s, and with a decent shot of Nitrous would run mid-high 14s.

*Edit: After re-reading his and your mods I realize you should still be beating him. Even though the Neon is quick, with what both of you have listed you should be beating him. I'd get in touch with him and found out what he really has.