willy241

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Well, I'm looking for idea's as to what I'd like to do next on my car. I haven't done anything at all yet, just get new tires.

some info on my car:
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/auto...ml#post4004757

I believe it has a catback system, but one of the metal harnesses is rusted completely off, so the one side of the exhaust hangs low. It also has a small hole in it.

Currentlly only has 15" camaro wheels on it, so I'm looking to either get some 16" iroc wheels, or something aftermarket.

I noticed after having it on the highway today that once it gets upwards of like 60 mph acceleration greatly decreases.

I WILL be using this as a daily driver, but I'm looking to make it quicker/faster. It currently only has an 85mph speedo though so I'm looking into buying a new gauge, or a whole new cluster.

Any other suggestions would be great

Saculia

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Which 305 do you have in it?

willy241

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all i know is that its a carb 305

Saculia

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You probably have an LG4. Those I think were rated at around 145 hp that's why it is slow. There are plenty of people here that have made these a bit faster than stock, but don't expect to have the fastest thing on the street. Look on the bright side. With a carb you have a bit more freedom as to what cam you can run.

atc3434

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Best performance mod for an LG4 is headers, the stock manifold and y-pipe are horribly restrictive.

willy241

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ahh thats kinda a buzz kill, but heres an engine pic if that helps?

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/post...08-post13.html

atc3434

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Looks like a stock LG4 to me.

willy241

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well i guess my next question would be, is it even worth putting the money into an LG4?

Saculia

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It depends on what you want to do with the car. If you want to have a nice original classic as a daily driver perhaps yes? You can spend some money on the exhaust, getting a full cat back and headers, maybe tune it a bit, and for what it is it might be a nice car to drive.
But if you want a street warrior it is not worth the money.

willy241

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im not talking full out racing, but id just like it to have a nice kick. its mostly ricers at my school anyways and id just like to be able to hold my own

atc3434

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My LG4 puts the typical ricers down without too much trouble - everything minus the cam is essentially a bolt-on.

willy241

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ok thats cool then. guess my question is still there though...
what next?

atc3434

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willy241

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im half tempted to look for a 350 in a U-pull-it. I still have to give the car a reeeeally good cleaning, but i do know i have to replace a vacuum hose.

flaming-ford

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with a full exhaust and good carb tuning + an upgraded camshaft that car would easily be over 220 fwhp rated, i'd personally go that route.

an aftermarket camshaft will run you about 120$ as for a recomendation i would personally run a comp cams xe262 grind ,then i'd buy roller rockers (almost essential for a bigger cam and a great investment), easy to install so on)and a set of edelbrock headers and y pipe and run a catback. catback will run you anywheres from 200-800$ depending on what you want, if i were gonna be cheap + good, i'd go with a dynomax muffler and have your local shop put an easy dual out catback with turn downs on it, probably 225$, go with 3in pipe, the edelbrock headers and y are sold on the boards often for around 225$ in good shape used

(i have a set of cheap roller rockers for sale if interested you can pm me for details).

and yes nobody flame me i know edelbrock is not the best header but they are cheap and perfect in this application.

Street Lethal

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.... is an L98.

willy241

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im all for dropping in something completely different, as long as its not going to be super expensive

Street Lethal

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^ .... symmetry is always the key, regardless which engine you plan on running. Of course, more cubic inch displacement will net you more torque, as well as calculated horsepower, but any engine can be maximized to it's performance level. Plan your build carefully. Ask yourself what your looking to do down the road; Naturally Aspirated, Boost, etc., and base everything on that. If you go turbo, stick with the engine you have, because there are turbo 305's running in the nines here at the track. If you want to stick with natural aspiration, and are eventually planning to run with the big boys, ditch the 305 in favor for a 350 or bigger.

flaming-ford

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a cam'd with full exhaust lg4 would run dead even or a hair faster than a factory l98 i surely would much rather waste 6 hours on a cam swap and a couple on a header swap and 500 dollars total rather than 8 hours on an engine and ecu swap + its used so you never know what all parts may need replaced.......

the lb9 305 cars are rated 210-230 hp depending if you got the n10 option. So i feel you will easily hit 250flywheel hp using the 262 cam and a much better exhaust over the factory setup, providing you can tune your carb + it will have a lot more top end hp and i would guess more midrange than tpi would deliver...

that said i own a lb9 5 speed and have raced a buddys l98 auto and we are dead even till about 100 mph .......

And no im not saying a 305 is as good as a 350 quite to the contrary. i'm just saying if you want economy fun and not massively fast its much more logical to do a cam exhaust and carb tuning then swap to a different diff pcm, diff wiring, and still have a used setup with who knows whats wrong for more money........ Basically you'd be just wasting your money over sticking with the 305, as it will have the same or better economy as a bigger fuel injected engine, powerband on a 305 starts a couple hundred rpms lower so its a little more streetable under a very mild setup.

On the other hand if you plan to build a fast fast engine later get rid of it by all means any 350 383 or 400 is a much more viable option because of more cubes = more power. I'd say if you are happy with 300hp to the wheels or less stick with the 305 if you plan to have more later get rid of it when you can afford it for something bigger

just my 2 cents

willy241

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Yeah, that sounds pretty good. I mean like I said, I just want to be able to hold my own against the typical "*****" (at my school: integra's, a civic I think, eclipse's, and then some newer mustangs (mid 90's?))

There is a dual catback exhaust on it now, but the one harness is rusted off, so the one side hangs low. Theres also a small hole that has rusted through right by the harness.


ok, R-icer is censored?

T/Atime

Depending on your future plans and cash flow. I would hold on the what you have right now and just plan a budget build. Something with some more cubes. So if you decide to upgrade that, there would still be some room to grow. Im not against the old 305 but they have limitations. I had the same motor in my 86 z28. it was a lot of fun. But my dad kick my *** in his 96 cougar (4.6) at the time. funny stuff lol. There is no end in to the modifications and personalizing you can do to these cars. And others are more than happy to drive there cars just the way gm made them.

How long do you plan on owning the car? by the way i love the look of your car. good idea about the iroc rims. How about gta rims with some window tint. I think i spotted a member with a black z/or iroc with the gta rims... looked like it was ment to be. Your paint looks like it would take a good wax well.

Clean car bud!

atc3434

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I've handed out a few surprises to L98's with my LG4, they can be made to run pretty decent.

flaming-ford

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it's not that im against 350s it's obvious they have a better bore stroke ratio and 45 more cubes sure with the same cam and top end you'll make more power. I just don't think it makes any sense how users on this forum act like it the magical only answer to make power.......

i'll put a 400 or a 383 against that 350 with the same components any day, safe to say, i'll put out more power than your 350.

i agree that valve shrouding and a small bore contribute to lower power but, the only reason why they are so downgraded is chevy pretty much never made a fast 305.....

i just learned over my lifetime that i would rather have a used car that i understand the condition of since i've owned it for a while, than buy a used anything from a car i never used or saw in use.... Lets just say i dont have the best luck when it comes to cars so i'd much rather stick with what i already have than buy something thats suppose to be better but, doesnt have anything supporting its condition or money back....

plus if you want 300hp flywheel or less its just more logical to go with a 305 if its already in...... all that would require is a carb kit camshaft and exhaust....

if you went with a 350 (stock) you would have less power less economy more time and more money involved for downsides.

The only upside i see is it has the ability to make more power....... sooner or later that realy makes no sense, once you get the speed bug you'll move from 305 to 327 or 350 next thing you know you'll be bashing your firewall to fit a bigblock in it...... lol. Either that or you will go forced induction or nitrus fed which makes no difference on what engine you use.

basically this whole rant comes down to if you want a fun streetable car that can hang with a stock lt1 then stick with your 305, if you are one of those people that always want faster and bigger i'd personally buy the l98 and stroke it to a 383 for the bang for your buck factor...... Something else to take in to affect is your exhaust carb and cam could be transferred over to a 350-383-400 whatever you want later if thats a route you wish to take....just my opinions

willy241

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Im glad I got so many replies. I realize that for my current situation, sticking with what I have would probably be the best answer.

willy241

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How easy is it to install a 145 speedo? I've seen a few for sale and I know im going to want something that goes above 85 mph. Can I just replace the gauge? Also, can I change the odometer on the new gauge so its the same as what my current one is?

edit:
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tech...ph-speedo.html

found my answer.

blackdeath

put some 373s in the rear it will improve it