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if they are stock, camaro would deff. win as long as they are both 305. monte was pretty weak. like, 170 hp i think. I think montes had like, 3.83 rear or something like that. but you could get the camaro with 3.73 and a manual so im going to have to say camaro, I love both though!
Not quite apples to apples.. persay my comparison..but my brother.. had a 85 TPI Iroc and i had a 85 Monte SS... 5.0 H.O v8 .... both new and both stock his Camaro with 3.42:1 was faster.. than my Monte with 3.73:1
Another thing to look at is my 89 formula 350 with a full exhaust and no cat with a 3.23 posi, no other mods at the time, it was the way I bought it, could beat my friend's 85 monte ss with a full exhaust and stripped out interior with a 3.73 posi, and the race was from a dig. The race was was from North Ave to Fullerton down Villa Ave in Villa Park, IL. Probably 3/4 of a mile. I had him probably by a whole block or so. It was a joke to have that race. I completely crushed him.
A Monte looks good and could be built to go fast but from the factory, they weren't special, even for their time. Not a big deal. I give the race to the Z, if the driver of the Z can drive.
A Monte looks good and could be built to go fast but from the factory, they weren't special, even for their time. Not a big deal. I give the race to the Z, if the driver of the Z can drive.
I hope you are kidding.
They were a big deal when they came out. They were just a tick slower than the top of the line Z28. It wasn't until the GN got intercooled in 86 that it was considered slow.
They were a big deal when they came out. They were just a tick slower than the top of the line Z28. It wasn't until the GN got intercooled in 86 that it was considered slow.
the GN/Ttypes of 84/85 were also faster than the Monte SS. with weight being the same in both B bodies, the hotair Buicks had 200hp/300tq. That was considerably more than the 185hp/240tq the Montes were rated at
also, the TPI 305 Z28s and Trans Ams of the same year (85') also had more power (205hp - Trans Am, 215hp - Z28... both had 290tq) and were in a lighter chassis to boot
of course, there was the low 14 sec 85' L98 Vette as well
so quite a few GM cars knocked the SS Montes around back in 85'
I know for a fact that the 1987 high output 190hp monte would outrun a 1984 trans am with a carbed 305 and an 89 firebird with a tbi 305 by about 2 car lengths all cars were completely stock. It also ran door to door with a 87 iroc with tpi 305 auto, and I think they were rated at 190hp also, but sadly none were even close to the 87 mustang gt that showed up that day in 1990, he beat everyone by at least 5.
I know for a fact that the 1987 high output 190hp monte would outrun a 1984 trans am with a carbed 305 and an 89 firebird with a tbi 305 by about 2 car lengths all cars were completely stock. It also ran door to door with a 87 iroc with tpi 305 auto, and I think they were rated at 190hp also, but sadly none were even close to the 87 mustang gt that showed up that day in 1990, he beat everyone by at least 5.
haha yea those damn mustangs are so fast. stock vs stock the 302 mustang would beat the pants off just about any thirdgen camaro.
I know for a fact that the 1987 high output 190hp monte would outrun a 1984 trans am with a carbed 305 and an 89 firebird with a tbi 305 by about 2 car lengths all cars were completely stock.
A jazzy chair would outrun both of those cars listed...he's not asking about either of those 2 vehicles.
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I know for a fact that the 1987 high output 190hp monte would outrun a 1984 trans am with a carbed 305 and an 89 firebird with a tbi 305 by about 2 car lengths all cars were completely stock. It also ran door to door with a 87 iroc with tpi 305 auto, and I think they were rated at 190hp also
the L69 that came in the Monte SS was only rated at 185hp due to its single inlet air cleaner assembly. only the fbody version of the L69 had 190hp cause it had the dual snorkel setup
there were 2 "305 carb" motors availible on a 84' Trans Am. what you saw race was probably the low output version, the LG4 (150hp)
also, the 305TBI (L03) was only rated at 170hp. so i can see a SS Monte beating that too
the 305TPI (LB9) was rated at 195hp in 87', so that would have been a drivers race between the two cars
however, none of those cars were in the OPs question
an 85' 305TPI auto fbody (which possibly WAS the car the OP asked about, he never stated which engine it came with) was considerably faster than the 86'+ fbodies (305TPI w auto trans) due to the smaller cam that came in the later engines
the GN/Ttypes of 84/85 were also faster than the Monte SS. with weight being the same in both B bodies, the hotair Buicks had 200hp/300tq. That was considerably more than the 185hp/240tq the Montes were rated at
also, the TPI 305 Z28s and Trans Ams of the same year (85') also had more power (205hp - Trans Am, 215hp - Z28... both had 290tq) and were in a lighter chassis to boot
of course, there was the low 14 sec 85' L98 Vette as well
so quite a few GM cars knocked the SS Montes around back in 85'
I know my parent's 84 SS ran 15.4 when it was new. Did that at Crapitol. I really don't know what the 85-88 Monte's ran but I would assume at least as good with better gearing and better gearing in the trans.
From what I remember, HOT air Buicks ran mid 15's stock. The tuned port's of 85 did run better than the Monte. The Vette's were just quicker all around.
id say itd be down to the driver. unless the camaro was an iroc and had the LB9. in which case i give it to the camaro hands down. my buddy has an 86 monte carlos ss, and i have an 86 iroc z, and i can wipe the floor with him any time.
