IROCThe5.7L

Stock for Stock a 4th gen is obviously faster. I know my L98 vs a LT1 id lose. Kinda makes me wanna drop a crate motor in so I can atleast beat/keep up with new sports cars.


Anyone here ever kill a 4th Gen?

Just curious...............

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1988 Jet Black IROC
5.7L W/ 64000 miles
Flowmaster Exhaust
Fully Loaded
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My IROC In Readers Rides
My IROC

SPOOM

I've taken a couple of LT1's on the streets, but those don't really count because there is a big advantage to whomever hits it first. I have also lost to an LT1 on the streets when my car was still bone stock. The only truly fair way to compare cars is at the track, where both cars are going all-out and leaving the line at the same moment.

I have beaten a 94 LT1 at the track by about a car length in the 1/8th (I've only gotten to run against this one LT1 so far, most of the V8's at the track I visit are Mustangs or older muscle cars). I feel if the race would've been a full 1/4, I would've pulled even more, as I was travelling almost 3 mph faster than he was at the 1/8th mark.

SPOOM
92 TSi fwd

whiteroc

LT1s Yes. LS1s Heeeeeeeell NO!

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89 IROC-Z 5.7L 2.77 GEARS
130,000 MILES
ALL FREE MODS
K&Ns FILTERS
FLOWMASTER MUFFLER
PERFORMANCE RESOURCE CHIP
AFPR & PORTED PLENUM
Best 1/4 E.T. 14.09 @ 97.2 MPH
Best 1/8 E.T. 9.09 @ 77.4 MPH
Best 60ft. 2.03

new87

I beat up on a 2000 V-6!

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87 Z28 305 TPI, Auto, LT-1 cam (@.50 418/430, 194/199, LSA 111), roller timing set, 2.73, Gutted air boxes, K & N fillters, Dyno Max 3" cat back, 8.8 mm spirals, air foil, BFG Drag radials,170* Stat and TB bypass.
Old Best 15.414 @ 87.47.
new best 15.006 @ 89.55.
w/ drag radails 14.6 @ 93
“Fallen But Not Forgotten”

88blkiroc

most mildly modded L98s should easily be able to take out a stock LT1. my buddies BONE stock 97 Z ran straight 14.2's. with just full exhaust, airfoil, and chip i was running 14.1-14.0 so i got him all the time. now im in the high to mid 13's, but he got a new 99 Z that bone stock runs 13.3, and i mean BONE stock.

sb406camaro86

I've taken both lt1 and ls1 both z28's and ss's,auto and six speeds. With out much trouble

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406SBC
-DART SPORTSMAN 2 HEADS
-RPM INTAKE
-750 SPEED DEMON MECH SEC. CARB
-HEDMAN HEADERS
-COMP CAM EXtreme energy #284 .507/.510
-1.6 roller rockers
-th350 tranny
-posi rear disc

90Iroc-Zee

i beat a lt1 back to back, off the line i started pulling but he got better traction and it was too late to actually catch up. the time from 20mph though i jumped a 1/2 car and just pulled him until like 70mph.

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1990 G92 5spd LB9 - 3.42 80,000 miles

Accel Ignition/Wires (8.8mm), Advanced Timing, TB Bypass, Ported and Gasket Matched Plenum, Synthetic Motor Oil, 160 Thermo, TPIS Airfoil, K&N Air Filters, Edelbrock TES Headers, Dual Cats, Edelbrock RPM Series Catback, Homemade Ram Air, Bosch +4 Platinum Plugs

Looking for 2 Iroc-Z 16x8 Rim. Msg me if you have them...also for sale is my holley afpr for $35. mjpimps@hotmail.com

nothingssafe

i own a 96 V6. the horsepower is very comparable to a 305 or 350 TPI. i have smoked a few, and have had my *** handed over to me by a few. compared to my old 3rd gen, it handles like a gremilin compared to a porsche. id say a nicley modded TPI could stand up to a LT1. now, the LS1's thats a different story...

vortecfcar

Ive beat both...kinda sucks that all the work I put into my car and I can only barley beat LS1s.

On the bottle Ive realed and Ls1 in from a 4 car jump at 60

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91 RS W/carbed 350, Vortec heads, performer rpm, Comp cams Xtreme energy 224/230 duration and .477/.480 lift. BFG Drag radials. 3.42 posi,Corvette servoed 700r4, 3000rpm stall converter. Edelbrock TES, 3inch cat, flowmaster with single 2.5 inch exit.
Best time yet to come
13.0 @ 107- N/A
12.5@ 117- 100HP Nitrous

This is a Pic of my car in race trim www.tbns.net/billyjay/camero.jpg

Yes I know how to spell camaro- so dont ask. I didnt make the link

IROCThe5.7L

All I got is a catback and a high flow cat.

My engine is in tip top shape, could I hang/beat a stock Lt1?


I got a jet chip, just didnt put it in yet.

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1988 Jet Black IROC
5.7L W/ 64000 miles
Flowmaster Exhaust
Fully Loaded
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My IROC In Readers Rides
My IROC

[This message has been edited by IROCThe5.7L (edited September 25, 2001).]

Willie

iTrader: (1)

Granted my 305 is far from stock...

I've never lost to a fourth gen, C4 (including a ZR-1), or a C5. I speak exclusively about track results, not street racing. It's very gratifying to know that:

1) I can whoop up on $30k+ cars AND
2) I can do it with less cubes.

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Willie

Supercharged 1987 305 IROC-Z, Daily-Driver, Emissions-Legal.
Former Paxton (6-psig) with 50-hp nitrous: 12.043 @ 112.86 mph.
ATI D1SC (10-psig): 12.056 @ 116.62 mph.
All stats are altitude corrected for 3,100 feet using NHRA's Altitude Correction Table.

http://willie.camaro-firebird.org/

1987 "20th Anniversary Commemorative Edition" Z28 Convertible -- Super Chevy Show Class Winner, 1998.

86 IROC

iTrader: (3)

I've beaten up on a few LT1's w/ my old 350 TPI set up, LS1's were fairly new when I took my car off the road to redo it, so I never really got to race only but a few. One LS1 that I did race, I only beat by two cars. He showed me a timeslip......13.2 @ 109 MPH! I was only pulling 102-103 on a 12.90-13.00 pass. I have a lot of respect for 4th Gens, but I like the styling and steering feel better in my old IROC. Plus, the new combo should be more than adequate for showing tail lights to 90% of the street driven LS1's.

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1986 IROC, fully loaded, Mini Ram'd 383, Art Carr 700R4, Accel DFI, 12 bolt rear, etc, etc......

Mikes86SC

My friend used to have a 93 3.4 v6, and although we didnt race off the line, we started racing at about 50 or so, I took him with my little 2.8

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86 Sport Coupe, 2.8 V6, dead stock, but not for long!
Coming soon: paint job, new interior, MSD-6A, MSD GM Blaster Coil, MSD 8mm Helicore wires, Catco Hi-Flo cat, Dynomax Cat-Back, K&N Filters

Daily driver:
2000 Pontiac Grand Am SE2

www.geocities.com/camman86

JJ

I had a vortec based IROC before, similar to yours but a 5 speed. This quote is exactly how I felt too . . .

black5.7GTA

Ive killed just about every LT1 I've raced,however from a dead stop I raced a auto Z once,he egged me on,so I punched it,spun like crazy and fishtailed,while he didn't even "squeal"his and pulled about 2 cars on me before I reeled him in On the highway and from a roll,stock ones are toast.The auto LT1's are only about .2-.3 qicker in the 1/4 and about equal in the 1/8 than a stock L98 anyway.Beleive it or not,I've beaten 2 LS1 T/A's and a C5 Vette,but got smoked by a 6spd SS with exhaust(atleast) on it.A late L98,or LB9/5spd can beat either stock with the right combo of boltons.

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For sale
1990 Trans Am GTA,Black/Black Leather,350,auto 3.23,Dual Cats,
SLP Package,Fastchip,GSC's,Brand New Trans with Corvette 2400 stall,Servo/Shift Kit
G-tech 1/4mile(before trans and roasting 1st)13.6@104,now probably 13.2@track with traction/good conditions
stock(track)14.3@96
member www.transamgta.com
Previous Thirdgen
1986 Camaro IROC-Z

82resto

After I added my headers I took out an LT1 with an automatic. No problem

Jon

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89 GTA
Beautiful Gunmetal gray, LB9 305 and T5 tranny. Only 60,000 miles!
Dual cats, 3"flomaster
Accel 300+ Ignition, wires, cap, coil, etc
Airfoil
KN Airfilter
Removed Screens on MAF
SLP 1 3/4 headers
No Smog/AIR system

REZN8R

I killed a 4th gen Z28 in autocross. Does that count?

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'91 RS 3.1
SSM SFC's
Energy Susp. Hyper-flex kit
GTA Sway bars
Clarion, Phoenix Gold, JL Audio, etc.
Pictures: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/Album...=13412261&f=0]
Quote: "If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten."
- George Carlin

vic_V8

a lt1 would flat out smoke me, I haven't even tried racing them. I'll race every v6 camaro and firebird around, haven't lost to one yet. I have noticed the autos a quicker in the 40-60s mph ranges....its kinda weird because I'll smoke the v6 til 40 then they pull til 60 and I go by like they are standing still.

oh well I plan on getting a 96 ls1 TA 6 speed in two years.

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late model 91 rs, fully loaded t-tops, red leather
paint- gm red and yellow blend (light red)
custom painted 16" Camaro rims
305 tbi flat base 14"x3" with K&N, hypertech chip, accel super stock plug wires, only use full synthetic oil and delco filter, 2 1/2" cat delete pipe, Edelbrock 3" cat-back
MTX sub and amp, Bose all around
vic_v8@yahoo.com
street kills: New v-6 stang, 96 v6 camaro, totally killed '86 SC Camaro (305), 91 z 28 with 305
next month: rest of ultimate tbi

Bad Blk Z

I got spanked by one lt1 with headers full exhaust and a chip i ran 13.78 he ran 13.45 so it aint too bad. He is the only lt1 to ever beat me i have even beat a new vette that was running 14.5 it doesnt matter how much you paid for your car if you cant drive it dont take it to the track!!

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https://www.thirdgen.org/rides/index...ew&riedid=6260
91 Z-28 Coupe
L-98, 700-r4
Borla cat back
Performance Resource chip
Centerline wheels
K&N, Gutted air boxes
Gutted cats
Best Pass = 13.710 @100
Best 60' = 1.842
on M/T Sportsman Pros

https://www.thirdgen.org/rides/index.tgo?action=view&riedid=6261

race Car:
S/P 91 Camaro Z/28
454 LS7 crate motor
Crane Roler cam
Dart intake
1000cfm TRC Carb
Powerglide w/brake
3000# with driver

camaro chick

Ever killed a fourth gen? But of course!!!!

Free Bird

iTrader: (1)

All day long. Unless it an LS1 w/ more than exhaust. Then I tend to lose. Stock LT1 ain't worth my gas.

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Mods: ZZ4 engine w/stock TPI, adj, fuel pres. reg., MSD 8.5, HI6S ign. w/ PS-91 coil, K&N filter, TPI air foil, Hooker comp. shorties, American Thunder flows. 160* stat., TB bypass, 3"cowl, bat. relocate, AC delete, stock T-5 w/ 3.42 rear, ported plenum, 24# inj.

slowV8berlinetta

My camaro wouldn't stand a chance, but my 78 grand prix killed anything it ever ran into on the street- LT1 auto z28 easy- LS1 ws6 t/a 6 speed was a much closer race- took him up to 65 and let off and talked to him later-he was going all out. also took a 70 skylark gs 455 4 speed, lots of five point slows, handas left and right, can't even remember em all. I had a 403 olds from '79 t/a .030 over 472/496 cam, true duals off manifolds, th350, open rear, 3.08s. If i had posi and 3.73's no one woulda been close. i know i'm gonna catch hell cus no one will believe my gibberish, but suit yourself.

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'84 Berlinetta, LG4, 700R-4, starwars interior, falling headliner, T/A t-handle shifter, trans cooler, more to come in time and $$ www.hipergp@aol.com

82resto

A fast 403? It may as well have had a blue stripe going down the middle.

Jon

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89 GTA
Beautiful Gunmetal gray, LB9 305 and T5 tranny. Only 60,000 miles!
Dual cats, 3"flomaster
Accel 300+ Ignition, wires, cap, coil, etc
Airfoil
KN Airfilter
Removed Screens on MAF
SLP 1 3/4 headers
No Smog/AIR system

GofasterFirebird

iTrader: (3)

I haven't been beat on the street since I put the bottle in.

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1991 Firebird
350 L98 (was a 305 TBI),T-5,Edelbrock TES and cat back,Accel manifold
NOS,subframes,jegster torque arm,MSD Digital 6
AFPR,Lakewood lcas
Hurst linelock,SLP cam (206 212 .480 .486),relocated battery,cold air,Hypertech chip,centerforce df,clutch
poly bushings and mounts
AFR 190s
Harland sharp 1.5 rockers
autopower rollbar

12.33 @ 114.83 juiced uncorrected

13.510 @ 102 non juiced uncorrected

Big454blockchevy

I have beat quite a few ls1's at the track.

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383 86 Camaro Z28 ---1/4 mile et>13.65@103mph,,
10.5:1compression Dart Pro 1 Aluminum heads 215cc>2.05/1.60 valves,400 steel crank,cam specs:224/234 at 050 525/525 lift,3500 stall converter,shift kit,4.10 gears,770 Holley Avenger,Victor Jr. Intake,true dual exh,Hooker headers with 40 series Flowmasters,MSD Coil and Module.ALSO SECOND GEN Z28---mods:454 BBC,.546 max lift(doug herbert cam ) 750 Holley vac sec. ,Edelbrock Performer manifold,Holley electric fuel pump,Hooker headers,Flowmaster mufflers,beefed up 700r4 tranny, 3.90 gears, powertrax unit, B&M console shifter.

Dano 00TA

Sure.....with my 4th gen. My IROC would get smashed though.

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2000 NHRA Edition T/A
Pewter Metallic
A4 3.23 Gear w/GSC's
Whisper lid, MAF Ends, Ram Air Kit, Exhaust C/O
Best 60ft:1.94
1/8th:8.381@86.03
1/4:12.963@108.44

1989 IROC-Z 5.7 Duel Cat
Auto w/3.27 gears
Jet Stage 2 chip
Modified Air Box&MAF
AFPR&Air Foil

Abubaca

iTrader: (3)

My roomate had a stock 95 TA 6spd, and I have a stock 89 Iroc 5.7 without the g92 option. I don't know where you all got your l98 motors from, but mine isn't even in the same time zone as his lt1. he blows my doors off. I have noticed that I can keep up for a litle ways if we both start racing around 30 or 40 mph. Me thinks it maybe has to do with my tall gearing and his low 6spd.

N8MAN1068

i've taken an ls1 at the drag strip until a bit past the 60' mark....then i had my doors blown off.
lol

Ray87Z

I took down a LS1 SS a couple times in a row from rolls, and beat a couple LT1 Zs and TAs. I want to race more LS1s and find out if winning is going to be a regular occurance or not though...

I also managed to pull on a 95 ZR1 at least 3 times from 45-50 mph roll ons. I'm convinced that's got to be a fluke, no way I'm making over the 95 ZR1's 405hp though (I'm thinking I'm making 360-375ish at best so something doesn't add up against that ZR1...) Owner was nice though, older guy so surely he could drive...

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Ray87Z
-Vortec headed 350.
86 IROC w/ a cammed 305 TPI.
Formerly Ray86IROC.
www.inter-scape.com/Ray


[This message has been edited by Ray87Z (edited September 28, 2001).]

RODS92Z

Same here.

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1992 Camaro Z-28 custom 25th anniversary, 5.7 TPI auto, 2.73 posi, t-tops, arctic white with 92' medium mettalic gray stripes with black border stripe.

1967 Pontiac Catalina 2 door fastback, 400 v-8, auto, cameo white, dark red interior

unknown_host

iTrader: (1)

did he know you were racing? was he parked?

unknown_host

iTrader: (1)

i think a lot of you guys are so full of it its not even funny. a 305 beating an lt1? he has like 100 more horsepower than you. did he know how to drive? you stock l98's i think are not telling the truth, however any modified (valve covers have been off) 350 has a decent chance N/A. later

new87

I was just woundering what you are basing this off of? I work at a drag strip and every weekend we have plenty of LS1, Lt1, L98, and Lb9 cars running in many different states of modification. The stock LT1's run mainly 14.2 to 14.0 with a few factory freak cars running 13.8's. 14.2 is normal, my lightly moded 305 runs 14.6 with a 2.73 rearend. With some more gear, a stall, and ported stock heads stock LT1's wouldnt be a problem. As far as the L98's they need very little work to beat up on LT1's.


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87 Z28 305 TPI, Auto, LT-1 cam (@.50 418/430, 194/199, LSA 111), roller timing set, 2.73, Gutted air boxes, K & N fillters, Dyno Max 3" cat back, 8.8 mm spirals, air foil, BFG Drag radials,170* Stat and TB bypass.
Old Best 15.414 @ 87.47.
new best 15.006 @ 89.55.
w/ drag radails 14.6 @ 93
“Fallen But Not Forgotten”

unknown_host

iTrader: (1)

i am basing this off of the fact that lt1's are far superior to any stock engine that cam in a thirdgen, it takes a lot of modding for l98's to perform as well as them. also, who races any car without any mods? also, your light mods- i dont consider a cam a light mod, and with light mods lt1's drop in the 13's easily. i know so many l98's on this board struggling to get into the 13's its not even funny. anyone else?

age

with some more prom tuning, 3.73 gears ( I have 3.27s right now ), better tires (was running BFG Radials 265/50/16 on the rear that was at the wear mark), and a better hand at launching, I know that I can take out a Z06

new87

Alot of people race with out mods, over half the cars out there dont have mods. I new this would come up. If you know any thing about your cars you'd know that the 305 had 2 different cams. I had the smaller of the 2 and the cam I put in is the same grind as the other. I've read some of your other post and I shouldn't even argue with you cause you have no idea what you are talking about.


[This message has been edited by new87 (edited September 29, 2001).]

new87

Here are some hard numbers for all of for said motors.
1987 305 215HP, 295TQ. 350 225HP, 330TQ

1992 305 230HP, 300TQ. 350 245HP, 345TQ

1997 LT1 285HP, 325TQ

2000 LS1 305HP, 335TQ

Note the troque specs, does take much work to mod ours to take them stock. Which was his original question yes you can take 4th gens N/A just akes a little cash.

unknown_host

iTrader: (1)

look at our fricken engines compared to theirs. they have like at least 50 at 90 more horsepower than our cars, not to mention more torque. where are you gonna get that horsepower from with mods? are you one of those people that really think headers add 30 horsepower, cuz they dont. thats like head work and a cam right there to run with one, and by then its not really a modded thirdgen powerplant, its something completely different. there is a difference between a modded motor running with a 4th gen and a reworked motor running with a thirdgen. you can do anything you want with enough money. you read my other posts you see that i get tired of people who cant grow up and realize that our cars were made over a decade ago and dont perform with the new sports cars. i am buying a crate engine because i know (doesnt everyone) that the lg4 is a dog and i will not throw a penny at it to improve it. normally i kinda let people talk, but when the 305'ers start saying they beat 4th gens with 70 more horsepower than them i have to say something...

unknown_host

iTrader: (1)

and yes, those to me are sad numbers.

Nic

I've beat my share of both LT1's and LS1's and been beaten by just as many. Some of the worst beatings I've took on the street were from LS1's.

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1989 Mustang LX 5.0 Coupe
13.34@106.7 - needs more gear and converter

1992 Mustang LX 5.0 Convertible
14.23 @ 95.something - it's been a while since I've ran this one

Moderator Stangtec.com, SN95.com
Amelia and Nic's Twin Terrors

unknown_host

iTrader: (1)

see the mustang man knows whats up...

Big454blockchevy

I also have a hard time believing modified 305's can take LT1's. but seeing is believing.

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383 86 Camaro Z28 ---1/4 mile e.t>12.89@108.8mph,,
10.5:1compression Dart Pro 1 Aluminum heads 215cc>2.05/1.60 valves,400 steel crank,cam specs:224/234 at 050 525/525 lift,3500 stall converter,shift kit,4.10 gears,770 Holley Avenger,Victor Jr. Intake,true dual exh,Hooker headers with 40 series Flowmasters,MSD Coil and Module.ALSO SECOND GEN Z28---mods:454 BBC,.546 max lift(doug herbert cam ) 750 Holley vac sec. ,Edelbrock Performer manifold,Holley electric fuel pump,Hooker headers,Flowmaster mufflers,beefed up 700r4 tranny, 3.90 gears, powertrax unit, B&M console shifter.

super83Z

I have to agree with unknown host. A thirdgen 350 car can run anywhere from 15.2 to at the absolute most high 14's from the factory. I have seen 350 formulas run 15.2 with 70K miles and bone stock. the 305 is right behind that. The LT1 cars run high 13's to low 14's bone stock. LS1 cars run low 13's to very high 12's.

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I WOULD RATHER PUSH A CAMARO THAN DRIVE AN IMPORT

1983Z28 350w/ edelbrock performer RPM power package , dynomax shorty headers, 700R-4 with shift kit, 750cfm carb, edelbrock 3" exhaust system, 16" IROC rims and ASCD SS hood.

future mods:
completely done over suspension, black paint with flames,
T-56 almost ready to go in, TPI swap coming up

Wifes new car:

95Z28, AT, leather, T-tops bone stock for now.

future mods:
header to tailpipe replacement and a cold air intake. Then I am just going to leave it alone

super83Z

oh yeah and I roasted a 97 SS it didn't ahve a chance.

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I WOULD RATHER PUSH A CAMARO THAN DRIVE AN IMPORT

1983Z28 350w/ edelbrock performer RPM power package , dynomax shorty headers, 700R-4 with shift kit, 750cfm carb, edelbrock 3" exhaust system, 16" IROC rims and ASCD SS hood.

future mods:
completely done over suspension, black paint with flames,
T-56 almost ready to go in, TPI swap coming up

Wifes new car:

95Z28, AT, leather, T-tops bone stock for now.

future mods:
header to tailpipe replacement and a cold air intake. Then I am just going to leave it alone

Ray87Z

If your 3.2x geared L98 runs any worse than a mid 14 you're doing something wrong. Especially if it's a 90-92 car. That is not far behind a LT1 auto by any means. Free mods can easily get you within striking distance. If you do full exhaust, free mods, etc you'll be on into the 13s easy. All this is assuming you can tune the car worth a **** and drive decently...

The LS1 is a little diffferent though. First off they don't really make 305hp at the crank like the numbers say. It's closer to 300 hp at the wheels, ie 340-ish at the crank. That's the reason everyone, even pretty modded LT1s have trouble with decently driven LS1s. They're fast stock, but they've got all the goodies. Great flowing heads, high lift cam, decent exhaust, great intake, etc, etc. Not near as crippled as older motors... Now if only they'll not bitch out and kill the Camaro off, the LS1 is screaming for a decent looking Camaro to be dropped into. Hell remake the 67 SS with no changes with a modern interior and drivetrain and I'll buy one tomorrow, lol..

But anyway, if you can't get your 3.2x geared L98 to run with stock LT1s just give up and stop making us all look bad. Because you're either the worlds worse mechanic, got a lemon motor, or can't drive for ****...

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Ray87Z
-Vortec headed 350.
86 IROC w/ a cammed 305 TPI.
Formerly Ray86IROC.
www.inter-scape.com/Ray

[This message has been edited by Ray87Z (edited October 01, 2001).]

unknown_host

iTrader: (1)

lol thanks to both of you for sticking up for me lol. i was startin to get lonely being the only person criticizing the masses.
later

Jer82Z28

I've only got to race 2 LT1's since my new Vortec motor. beat them both, but I don't think I could take an LS1 yet. Hopefully once I get the engine tuned a bit better I will be able to at least give them a run. My exhaust is heat shrunk and my engine runs extremely rich.

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Camaro nut in training.

1982 Camaro Z28
350/700r4
Vortec heads, comp cams XE262H, dynomax 1 1/2 headers, edelbrock 750 carb/performer rpm, MSD ignition, K&N,
3.73's with powertrax locker

SAE corrected time

13.6@104*

1984 Camaro Z28
(parts)

1985 Camaro Z28
305/700r4
Accel ignition, K&N

*with crushed exhaust and badly tuned carb

vortecfcar

high 12s for a STOCK LS1 is bogus, Im sorry but watch these cars run and 13.6- 13.9 seems to be about avg. Anyone who can break a stock LT1 into the 13s has my respect, I personally have seen many try and none succeed.

I dont know if my track (union grove wisc) is a slow track but I had to throw that in.

Tony89GTA

iTrader: (7)

Well I have raced 3 LT1's and 1 97SS at the track and havent lost to one of these guys yet. My car is not stock buts really only got exaust, cold air and in good tune. But agaist those pesky LS1 I have no chance.

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89 T-Top GTA 350 5-speed (soon to be 6-speed)
(Jet hot coated)1 3/4 SLP headers,flowmaster force 2,no cat's,SLP cold air,MSD 6al,march pulleys,ported plenum,air foil,B&M ripper shifter,180 stat,alston SFC,spohn LCA relocation brackets,ES LCA and Panhard bushings,free mods.

0-60 5.2s
Track Time
60' 2.049
E.T. 14.14@96.7MPH (2270 FT)
13.76@99.4MPH corrected

black5.7GTA

How about these numbers?

90 IROC-Z L98 4-A 3.23 0-60 5.8 1/4mile 14.4@97 245hp 345tq
91 SLP GTA L98 4-A 3.23 0-60 5.3 1/4mile 13.8@101 266hp 355tq
92 Formula LB9 5-M 3.42 0-60 6.0 1/4mile 14.6@95 230hp 300tq
94 Z28 LT1 2.73 4-A 2.73 0-60 5.9 1/4mile 14.4@99 275hp 325tq
97 Formula Firehawk LT1 3.42 0-60 4.9 1/4mile 13.5@104 315hp 345tq
98 T/A LS1 3.23 4_A 0-60 5.3 1/4mile 13.7@104 305hp 335tq
01 SS LS1 3.42 6-M 0-60 4.8 1/4mile 13.2@107 335hp 345tq

BTW,I raced another auto LS1 T/A on the highway a few days ago... he could not pass me, every time he tried I would drop it into 2nd and punch it and I pulled away from him when I let him get next to me(the guy was cool though as he kept giving me the thumbs up