$2,000 on the line! '12 Altima vs.'91 Z28
02-29-2012, 08:09 PM
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Ok, I can understand all that and I see exactly what you're getting at but..
My 2005 tiburon tops out at 146, it starts pinning. 4 speed automatic. I have beaten several stock z28's on the highway which is usually from a 60-70 roll. My tiburon also has about 175fwhp(front wheel not flywheel), same as the altima but weighs about 100lbs more.
The z28 will dominate the altima off the line due to the altima having FWD launch lag, then it will still dominate all the way up until about 80-90 and that is when the altima will probably start creeping up. Also, those new Civic Si's have like 150hp and they dominate my tiburon from 80+
My 2005 tiburon tops out at 146, it starts pinning. 4 speed automatic. I have beaten several stock z28's on the highway which is usually from a 60-70 roll. My tiburon also has about 175fwhp(front wheel not flywheel), same as the altima but weighs about 100lbs more.
The z28 will dominate the altima off the line due to the altima having FWD launch lag, then it will still dominate all the way up until about 80-90 and that is when the altima will probably start creeping up. Also, those new Civic Si's have like 150hp and they dominate my tiburon from 80+
If you have a manual, the parasitic loss is probably between 15%-18%. So you can guesstimate your WHP rating. A 15% loss on your 172hp leaves you with ~145hp at the wheels.
That would mean your Tiburon makes MORE power than the Altima. It's 175hp is rated at the crank just like all production cars as per SAE regulations. Realisticly it probably makes around 140-145whp. And the op said its transmission is the CVT (think snowmobile transmission). And I could have sworn G92 was gearing, suspention and dule cats and all 5spd LB9s got the L98 cam. Oh well.
02-29-2012, 08:27 PM
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Re: $2,000 on the line! '12 Altima vs.'91 Z28
Ok, I can understand all that and I see exactly what you're getting at but..
My 2005 tiburon tops out at 146, it starts pinning. 4 speed automatic. I have beaten several stock z28's on the highway which is usually from a 60-70 roll. My tiburon also has about 175fwhp(front wheel not flywheel), same as the altima but weighs about 100lbs more.
The z28 will dominate the altima off the line due to the altima having FWD launch lag, then it will still dominate all the way up until about 80-90 and that is when the altima will probably start creeping up. Also, those new Civic Si's have like 150hp and they dominate my tiburon from 80+
My 2005 tiburon tops out at 146, it starts pinning. 4 speed automatic. I have beaten several stock z28's on the highway which is usually from a 60-70 roll. My tiburon also has about 175fwhp(front wheel not flywheel), same as the altima but weighs about 100lbs more.
The z28 will dominate the altima off the line due to the altima having FWD launch lag, then it will still dominate all the way up until about 80-90 and that is when the altima will probably start creeping up. Also, those new Civic Si's have like 150hp and they dominate my tiburon from 80+
New si's make 200hp and can rape a tiburon from 0-100 tiburons are slugs. Stock the autos are raited about 170 at the crank so they probably put down about 130 wheel hp
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03-01-2012, 09:29 AM
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Re: $2,000 on the line! '12 Altima vs.'91 Z28
Well my tiburon has a k&n cold air intake so thats like 50hp..... not too mention titanium muffler bearings.
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Re: $2,000 on the line! '12 Altima vs.'91 Z28
The Altima has a CVT, it doesn't shift at all. A heavy 3rd gen car with a wheezy TPI 305 has ZERO CHANCE of staying in front of one in a mile. I drive them frequently at work, since I work for a Nissan dealership. Honestly they are as quick as my Titan and it runs 9.40s in the 1/8. Well ahead of a peanut cammed 305, which only had 195 hp BTW.
03-02-2012, 09:58 PM
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2.5L Altima vs even a Peanut cammed 305TPi still gives the edge to the F-body assuming both in factory stock condition.
The Altima is carrying 18.2lbs per HP, and a 195hp Peanut cammed F-body is carrying about 17.6lbs per HP even at its worst weight. A non-peanut cammed 305TPI with a 5spd would be carrying about 15lbs per HP.
The Altima loses out on HP to weight. Add in nearly 20 years of use and the Z is probably down 15hp or so if it isn't in tip top shape. Maybe more.
Over a mile the Altima's CVT may allow it to make use of its power better but a 305TPI/M5 with the non-peanut cam would still out-run the Altima.
Now a 6spd 3.5SE Altima would absolutely RAPE every stock thirdgen except for the TTA/Firehawk. Those things can scare LT1 cars. I should know, I ran into one and I almost didn't win.
The Altima is carrying 18.2lbs per HP, and a 195hp Peanut cammed F-body is carrying about 17.6lbs per HP even at its worst weight. A non-peanut cammed 305TPI with a 5spd would be carrying about 15lbs per HP.
The Altima loses out on HP to weight. Add in nearly 20 years of use and the Z is probably down 15hp or so if it isn't in tip top shape. Maybe more.
Over a mile the Altima's CVT may allow it to make use of its power better but a 305TPI/M5 with the non-peanut cam would still out-run the Altima.
Now a 6spd 3.5SE Altima would absolutely RAPE every stock thirdgen except for the TTA/Firehawk. Those things can scare LT1 cars. I should know, I ran into one and I almost didn't win.
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Re: $2,000 on the line! '12 Altima vs.'91 Z28
120 with ease in my 91 vert with the top back in less then a mile 5.0 tbi 700r4 with quite a few mods i did this just to see what i could do in a mile but let off due to traffic ahead
i think you could win but ill let you know i did this with my buddys specv and ate it alive luckly he made it out alive
heres some pics he wasnt the driver he clamed to be... well thought he was
you can see the oil running out of the car
we put the head light backin for some reason
all that happened was he lost it at 80 something and hit a curb he was lucky
i think you could win but ill let you know i did this with my buddys specv and ate it alive luckly he made it out alive
heres some pics he wasnt the driver he clamed to be... well thought he was
you can see the oil running out of the car
we put the head light backin for some reason
all that happened was he lost it at 80 something and hit a curb he was lucky
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Re: $2,000 on the line! '12 Altima vs.'91 Z28
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEvDiVKZ_1Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PlOXuOq57Y
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Re: $2,000 on the line! '12 Altima vs.'91 Z28
The turbo wasnt very happy.....
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Re: $2,000 on the line! '12 Altima vs.'91 Z28
Wow...Thats it, lol. My 5,500 lbs Quad Cab Ram runs 98+ mph in the 1/4 mile and reaches 120+ in 1/2 a mile if I want to.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEvDiVKZ_1Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PlOXuOq57Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEvDiVKZ_1Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PlOXuOq57Y
cool story bro... as you can see i said under a mile and had to let off
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03-06-2012, 09:02 AM
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Re: $2,000 on the line! '12 Altima vs.'91 Z28
Wow...Thats it, lol. My 5,500 lbs Quad Cab Ram runs 98+ mph in the 1/4 mile and reaches 120+ in 1/2 a mile if I want to.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEvDiVKZ_1Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PlOXuOq57Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEvDiVKZ_1Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PlOXuOq57Y
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