swapping to TPI need some help
08-30-2001, 12:50 AM
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Car: 1983 Z28
Engine: 6.6L 406
Transmission: T-56
swapping to TPI need some help
I am getting the whole thing. Is it easy to swap in? Should I get anything else other than the harness and comp?
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future mods:
SLP headers, completely done over suspension, black paint with flames, NEW PLAN IN THE MAKING:
BUILD A WILD CHEVY 302 JUST LIKE THE ORIGINAL Z28 HAD
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I WOULD RATHER PUSH A CAMARO THAN DRIVE AN IMPORT
1983Z28 350w/ edelbrock performer RPM power package , dynomax shorty headers, 700R-4 with shift kit, 750cfm carb, edelbrock 3" exhaust system, 16" IROC rims and ASCD SS hood.
future mods:
SLP headers, completely done over suspension, black paint with flames, NEW PLAN IN THE MAKING:
BUILD A WILD CHEVY 302 JUST LIKE THE ORIGINAL Z28 HAD
08-30-2001, 06:56 PM
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Car: 86 Trans Am, 88 Formula
Engine: 95LT4, 305TPI
Transmission: T56, T5
You will need a new Alternator bracket. That part is no longer available from the dealer, search the junkyards or try and get one modified, you'll see how it needs to be modded once you try and put it on.
You'll need a new throttle cable, $14.00 new from dealer. etc....
On my site I have a list of items that you need to do the swap from carb to tpi.
I have some left over parts that you will need, fuel pump and sender unit, brand new fuel tank(you don't really need it but I'll get rid of it cheap, it takes too much space in my garage)
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[This message has been edited by Zepher (edited August 30, 2001).]
You'll need a new throttle cable, $14.00 new from dealer. etc....
On my site I have a list of items that you need to do the swap from carb to tpi.
I have some left over parts that you will need, fuel pump and sender unit, brand new fuel tank(you don't really need it but I'll get rid of it cheap, it takes too much space in my garage)
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08-30-2001, 10:02 PM
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Car: 1983 Z28
Engine: 6.6L 406
Transmission: T-56
I need help with this part of the swap so far: Where am I going to put the knock sensor module? Where does it go in the block? thanks for any help as there will be plenty more questions to come.
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I WOULD RATHER PUSH A CAMARO THAN DRIVE AN IMPORT
1983Z28 350w/ edelbrock performer RPM power package , dynomax shorty headers, 700R-4 with shift kit, 750cfm carb, edelbrock 3" exhaust system, 16" IROC rims and ASCD SS hood.
future mods:
SLP headers, completely done over suspension, black paint with flames, NEW PLAN IN THE MAKING:
BUILD A WILD CHEVY 302 JUST LIKE THE ORIGINAL Z28 HAD
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I WOULD RATHER PUSH A CAMARO THAN DRIVE AN IMPORT
1983Z28 350w/ edelbrock performer RPM power package , dynomax shorty headers, 700R-4 with shift kit, 750cfm carb, edelbrock 3" exhaust system, 16" IROC rims and ASCD SS hood.
future mods:
SLP headers, completely done over suspension, black paint with flames, NEW PLAN IN THE MAKING:
BUILD A WILD CHEVY 302 JUST LIKE THE ORIGINAL Z28 HAD
08-30-2001, 11:07 PM
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The knock sensor is located in the middle of the base of the block on the passenger side right above the oil pan.
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08-31-2001, 07:09 AM
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Car: 1983 Z28
Engine: 6.6L 406
Transmission: T-56
does this mean my block will not have a provision for it?
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1983Z28 350w/ edelbrock performer RPM power package , dynomax shorty headers, 700R-4 with shift kit, 750cfm carb, edelbrock 3" exhaust system, 16" IROC rims and ASCD SS hood.
future mods:
SLP headers, completely done over suspension, black paint with flames, NEW PLAN IN THE MAKING:
BUILD A WILD CHEVY 302 JUST LIKE THE ORIGINAL Z28 HAD
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I WOULD RATHER PUSH A CAMARO THAN DRIVE AN IMPORT
1983Z28 350w/ edelbrock performer RPM power package , dynomax shorty headers, 700R-4 with shift kit, 750cfm carb, edelbrock 3" exhaust system, 16" IROC rims and ASCD SS hood.
future mods:
SLP headers, completely done over suspension, black paint with flames, NEW PLAN IN THE MAKING:
BUILD A WILD CHEVY 302 JUST LIKE THE ORIGINAL Z28 HAD
08-31-2001, 01:51 PM
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From my experience, oin jsut about all engines there is provision for the knock sensor. I have a 67 Riv that I used the block drain. On most engines (that I know of) it seems that there is a small drain for the collent, on the passenger side of the engine.
From what I understand when GM went to using knock sensors that is where they plugged it in. There is an advantage to this as well, and is why they chose the location. Water carries sound much better and faster than the cast iron block.
I think The knock sensor typically uses 1/4" Pipe thread.
John
From what I understand when GM went to using knock sensors that is where they plugged it in. There is an advantage to this as well, and is why they chose the location. Water carries sound much better and faster than the cast iron block.
I think The knock sensor typically uses 1/4" Pipe thread.
John
08-31-2001, 04:06 PM
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Car: 1983 Z28
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by okfoz:
From my experience, oin jsut about all engines there is provision for the knock sensor. I have a 67 Riv that I used the block drain. On most engines (that I know of) it seems that there is a small drain for the collent, on the passenger side of the engine.
From what I understand when GM went to using knock sensors that is where they plugged it in. There is an advantage to this as well, and is why they chose the location. Water carries sound much better and faster than the cast iron block.
I think The knock sensor typically uses 1/4" Pipe thread.
John</font>
From my experience, oin jsut about all engines there is provision for the knock sensor. I have a 67 Riv that I used the block drain. On most engines (that I know of) it seems that there is a small drain for the collent, on the passenger side of the engine.
From what I understand when GM went to using knock sensors that is where they plugged it in. There is an advantage to this as well, and is why they chose the location. Water carries sound much better and faster than the cast iron block.
I think The knock sensor typically uses 1/4" Pipe thread.
John</font>
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I WOULD RATHER PUSH A CAMARO THAN DRIVE AN IMPORT
1983Z28 350w/ edelbrock performer RPM power package , dynomax shorty headers, 700R-4 with shift kit, 750cfm carb, edelbrock 3" exhaust system, 16" IROC rims and ASCD SS hood.
future mods:
SLP headers, completely done over suspension, black paint with flames, NEW PLAN IN THE MAKING:
BUILD A WILD CHEVY 302 JUST LIKE THE ORIGINAL Z28 HAD
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Car: 96 Formula/82 T/A
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Transmission: T56/TH350
i found a site that has the alt. bracket conversion bracket at http://www.jimsperformance.com/carti.html . its in the more TPI parts. they have alot of stuff for a TPI swap. im also doing the TPI swap soon. they also have a External TPI fuel pump.
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08-31-2001, 05:45 PM
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Car: 1983 Z28
Engine: 6.6L 406
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What is the bracket for? Is it in case I can't find a bracket for the 85-86 style?
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1983Z28 350w/ edelbrock performer RPM power package , dynomax shorty headers, 700R-4 with shift kit, 750cfm carb, edelbrock 3" exhaust system, 16" IROC rims and ASCD SS hood.
future mods:
SLP headers, completely done over suspension, black paint with flames, NEW PLAN IN THE MAKING:
BUILD A WILD CHEVY 302 JUST LIKE THE ORIGINAL Z28 HAD
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I WOULD RATHER PUSH A CAMARO THAN DRIVE AN IMPORT
1983Z28 350w/ edelbrock performer RPM power package , dynomax shorty headers, 700R-4 with shift kit, 750cfm carb, edelbrock 3" exhaust system, 16" IROC rims and ASCD SS hood.
future mods:
SLP headers, completely done over suspension, black paint with flames, NEW PLAN IN THE MAKING:
BUILD A WILD CHEVY 302 JUST LIKE THE ORIGINAL Z28 HAD
09-01-2001, 07:19 AM
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Car: 86 Trans Am, 88 Formula
Engine: 95LT4, 305TPI
Transmission: T56, T5
The alternator bracket for a TPI vehicle with the alternator on the passenger side of the car has one of the mounting holes sitting vertically instead of horizontally.
If I had a pic of both, you'd be able to see what I mean easier.
Look at your alternator bracket, where it mounts to the intake manifold you'll notice that it sits flat horizontally on the intake manifold. On the TPI, that part of the bracket mounts to the side of the TPI intake, so that mounting point is vertical.
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If I had a pic of both, you'd be able to see what I mean easier.
Look at your alternator bracket, where it mounts to the intake manifold you'll notice that it sits flat horizontally on the intake manifold. On the TPI, that part of the bracket mounts to the side of the TPI intake, so that mounting point is vertical.
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09-01-2001, 10:36 AM
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Car: 1983 Z28
Engine: 6.6L 406
Transmission: T-56
Glad you guys told me I am picking it up tomorrow I will make sure I grab that too. Is there anything else that is hard to find?
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1983Z28 350w/ edelbrock performer RPM power package , dynomax shorty headers, 700R-4 with shift kit, 750cfm carb, edelbrock 3" exhaust system, 16" IROC rims and ASCD SS hood.
future mods:
SLP headers, completely done over suspension, black paint with flames, NEW PLAN IN THE MAKING:
BUILD A WILD CHEVY 302 JUST LIKE THE ORIGINAL Z28 HAD
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I WOULD RATHER PUSH A CAMARO THAN DRIVE AN IMPORT
1983Z28 350w/ edelbrock performer RPM power package , dynomax shorty headers, 700R-4 with shift kit, 750cfm carb, edelbrock 3" exhaust system, 16" IROC rims and ASCD SS hood.
future mods:
SLP headers, completely done over suspension, black paint with flames, NEW PLAN IN THE MAKING:
BUILD A WILD CHEVY 302 JUST LIKE THE ORIGINAL Z28 HAD
09-01-2001, 06:19 PM
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Car: 86 Trans Am, 88 Formula
Engine: 95LT4, 305TPI
Transmission: T56, T5
You'll probably need a new oil pressure sending unit fitting that attaches to the back of the block.
On my LG4, the fitting was a 2.5" straight pipe that screwed into the top of the block behind the intake manifold and the oil pressure sending unit screwed into that.
The ones on the TPI cars are two pieces shaped like a "Y" with a fitting for the oil pressure sender and the "oil pressure fuel pump secondary backup switch" connector.
This secondary switch, as I am told, keeps the fuel pump running if the fuel pump relay goes bad, it checks to see if there is oil pressure, if there is, car keeps driving.
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On my LG4, the fitting was a 2.5" straight pipe that screwed into the top of the block behind the intake manifold and the oil pressure sending unit screwed into that.
The ones on the TPI cars are two pieces shaped like a "Y" with a fitting for the oil pressure sender and the "oil pressure fuel pump secondary backup switch" connector.
This secondary switch, as I am told, keeps the fuel pump running if the fuel pump relay goes bad, it checks to see if there is oil pressure, if there is, car keeps driving.
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09-01-2001, 07:36 PM
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Car: 1983 Z28
Engine: 6.6L 406
Transmission: T-56
sounds good but I plan on putting an inline fuel pump so I might just rig it to my fuse panel.
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1983Z28 350w/ edelbrock performer RPM power package , dynomax shorty headers, 700R-4 with shift kit, 750cfm carb, edelbrock 3" exhaust system, 16" IROC rims and ASCD SS hood.
future mods:
SLP headers, completely done over suspension, black paint with flames, NEW PLAN IN THE MAKING:
BUILD A WILD CHEVY 302 JUST LIKE THE ORIGINAL Z28 HAD
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I WOULD RATHER PUSH A CAMARO THAN DRIVE AN IMPORT
1983Z28 350w/ edelbrock performer RPM power package , dynomax shorty headers, 700R-4 with shift kit, 750cfm carb, edelbrock 3" exhaust system, 16" IROC rims and ASCD SS hood.
future mods:
SLP headers, completely done over suspension, black paint with flames, NEW PLAN IN THE MAKING:
BUILD A WILD CHEVY 302 JUST LIKE THE ORIGINAL Z28 HAD
09-01-2001, 07:45 PM
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Car: 1983 Z28
Engine: 6.6L 406
Transmission: T-56
I have two old connectors that went from my computer to my gauges ALDL blah blah. Can I just plug them into the TPI harness? Or do I have to change this too? Also I plan on swapping in a 90-92 dash which I just got today and I want to splice those into my harness. Will this work? I think it would be easier to splice the gauges in with new senders then to try and rewire my whole car.
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I WOULD RATHER PUSH A CAMARO THAN DRIVE AN IMPORT
1983Z28 350w/ edelbrock performer RPM power package , dynomax shorty headers, 700R-4 with shift kit, 750cfm carb, edelbrock 3" exhaust system, 16" IROC rims and ASCD SS hood.
future mods:
completely done over suspension, black paint with flames,
T-56 almost ready to go in, TPI swap coming up
Wifes new car:
95Z28, AT, leather, T-tops bone stock for now.
future mods:
header to tailpipe replacement and a cold air intake. Then I am just going to leave it alone
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I WOULD RATHER PUSH A CAMARO THAN DRIVE AN IMPORT
1983Z28 350w/ edelbrock performer RPM power package , dynomax shorty headers, 700R-4 with shift kit, 750cfm carb, edelbrock 3" exhaust system, 16" IROC rims and ASCD SS hood.
future mods:
completely done over suspension, black paint with flames,
T-56 almost ready to go in, TPI swap coming up
Wifes new car:
95Z28, AT, leather, T-tops bone stock for now.
future mods:
header to tailpipe replacement and a cold air intake. Then I am just going to leave it alone
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