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Old 10-06-2009, 06:19 PM   #1
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Do I need this bracket?

Hey guys,,I got a 1992 3.1 v6 auto..well a while back I kept hearing a rattling near my a/c and then I thought my p/s pump bearings were goin..what i found was a bracket hanging off a stud closest to the water pump.The stud looked like it was comin off the back of the power steering pump,basically just hanging there so i took it off,,was this a bad thing or do i need to hook it up..pics would be great!!!,,thanx!!...oh btw..its a serpentine belt setup
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Old 10-08-2009, 02:07 PM   #2
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Re: Do I need this bracket?

That bracket is not a necessity, but don't remove the studs from the power steering pump unless you want a big, costly problem with the pump.
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Old 10-10-2009, 02:12 PM   #3
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Re: Do I need this bracket?

sweet,but what problems would the stud removal be..not that im gonna do that.
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Old 10-11-2009, 08:21 PM   #4
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Re: Do I need this bracket?

Let's just say that they hold the reservoir to the pump body... If you pull even one of them out, your pump won't be able to hold any PS fluid...
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The H1L-2 Raven:
1987 Pontiac Firebird, T-top
Bone Stock Except for the Following:
1991 VIN T engine, harness and ECM. Yes, I have VATS! ('730 harness is out for inspections due to problems, running on stock '302 system for now )
1984 Base Taillights
Overhead console from an 86 Berlinetta
90-92 Z/28 rear deck spoiler with HMSL delete
Eclipse CD-5435 MP3/WMA Headunit, 50Wx4 with iPC-106 iPod controller
Sony 4x6" 120W Front Speakers
Clarion 220W 3-way 6x9 Rear Speakers
Distinct (Crossfire) DVC 12" subs with Distinct 700W amp in prefab 82-92 F-body hatch box, 130+ dB (when working right)
Factory 700R4 replaced with 85 T-5 5-Speed manual trans, .76:1 OD.
Engine: 3.1L LH0 with off-the shelf air intake and a Cherry Bomb 2.25" Muffler.
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Old 10-11-2009, 10:06 PM   #5
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Re: Do I need this bracket?

thats a good thing,,,i looked for a stud on the exhast manifold and didnt see 1,,if it broke off it was a clean break,,thanx for the info
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Old 10-12-2009, 09:20 PM   #6
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Re: Do I need this bracket?

The lower "bolt" on the number 2 cylinder is supposed to be a stud. That would be why yours was rattling like it was. You could just tighten the nuts on the back of the pump to stop the rattling, but it seems like you want it gone, and I don't blame you.
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The H1L-2 Raven:
1987 Pontiac Firebird, T-top
Bone Stock Except for the Following:
1991 VIN T engine, harness and ECM. Yes, I have VATS! ('730 harness is out for inspections due to problems, running on stock '302 system for now )
1984 Base Taillights
Overhead console from an 86 Berlinetta
90-92 Z/28 rear deck spoiler with HMSL delete
Eclipse CD-5435 MP3/WMA Headunit, 50Wx4 with iPC-106 iPod controller
Sony 4x6" 120W Front Speakers
Clarion 220W 3-way 6x9 Rear Speakers
Distinct (Crossfire) DVC 12" subs with Distinct 700W amp in prefab 82-92 F-body hatch box, 130+ dB (when working right)
Factory 700R4 replaced with 85 T-5 5-Speed manual trans, .76:1 OD.
Engine: 3.1L LH0 with off-the shelf air intake and a Cherry Bomb 2.25" Muffler.
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Old 10-12-2009, 11:38 PM   #7
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Re: Do I need this bracket?

i know right..i looked at my brothers 91 and i dont have a stud there,,someone broke it off..as long as it (the stud) doesnt affect my exhaust i will be happy,just one less thing to pull when i need to work on it
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Old 10-13-2009, 06:57 PM   #8
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Re: Do I need this bracket?

It won't affect the manifold as long as the hex part of the bolt is still there. if that's gone as well, you could have problems with leaks, just like my #5 cylinder, which has the top bolt broken off inside the head...
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Project is on hold...
The H1L-2 Raven:
1987 Pontiac Firebird, T-top
Bone Stock Except for the Following:
1991 VIN T engine, harness and ECM. Yes, I have VATS! ('730 harness is out for inspections due to problems, running on stock '302 system for now )
1984 Base Taillights
Overhead console from an 86 Berlinetta
90-92 Z/28 rear deck spoiler with HMSL delete
Eclipse CD-5435 MP3/WMA Headunit, 50Wx4 with iPC-106 iPod controller
Sony 4x6" 120W Front Speakers
Clarion 220W 3-way 6x9 Rear Speakers
Distinct (Crossfire) DVC 12" subs with Distinct 700W amp in prefab 82-92 F-body hatch box, 130+ dB (when working right)
Factory 700R4 replaced with 85 T-5 5-Speed manual trans, .76:1 OD.
Engine: 3.1L LH0 with off-the shelf air intake and a Cherry Bomb 2.25" Muffler.
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Old 10-13-2009, 07:03 PM   #9
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Re: Do I need this bracket?

crap!!..well both hexs are gone on the top n bottom on front,,looks like its just the rest of it in the hole,,can i seal it up at the top of manifold?
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Old 10-13-2009, 10:49 PM   #10
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Re: Do I need this bracket?

My #5 doesn't seal with only one bolt in it... You might be in worse shape. Try to get the others out when the engine is warm or hot and then get those studs out at the same time. Replace the whole mess with M8x1.75 (IIRC) by 1.5" and however long the long ones are (same threads, obviously). And no, threadlocker doesn't work. I used red on my pass side manifold bolts (ALL of them) and I just retightened all of them except the lonely bolt in cyl #5.

:edit: I keep hoping that, one of these days, Loctite or someone will come up with some sealer and threadlocking compound that is good above 800*F. Maybe then I won't have any leaks and the bolts won't come out any more.
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Project is on hold...
The H1L-2 Raven:
1987 Pontiac Firebird, T-top
Bone Stock Except for the Following:
1991 VIN T engine, harness and ECM. Yes, I have VATS! ('730 harness is out for inspections due to problems, running on stock '302 system for now )
1984 Base Taillights
Overhead console from an 86 Berlinetta
90-92 Z/28 rear deck spoiler with HMSL delete
Eclipse CD-5435 MP3/WMA Headunit, 50Wx4 with iPC-106 iPod controller
Sony 4x6" 120W Front Speakers
Clarion 220W 3-way 6x9 Rear Speakers
Distinct (Crossfire) DVC 12" subs with Distinct 700W amp in prefab 82-92 F-body hatch box, 130+ dB (when working right)
Factory 700R4 replaced with 85 T-5 5-Speed manual trans, .76:1 OD.
Engine: 3.1L LH0 with off-the shelf air intake and a Cherry Bomb 2.25" Muffler.
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Old 10-13-2009, 11:30 PM   #11
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Re: Do I need this bracket?

well it never sounded loud like a leak was there so i never bothered with it..i wonder if liquid steel would work?..if it did it would be like its permanent
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