86 Camaro joe

ACCEL 140011 - ACCEL Remote Super Coils

or

MSD Ignition 8226 - MSD Blaster Replacement Coils

witch is recommenced ?

for camaro v6 2.8

TomP

Really just depends on the brand you prefer. I started out with an Accel 140008, electronic super coil, it came with a harness adapter. It's not a direct replacement, so I had it mounted on the alternator bracket (lots of vibration there!); it lasted for years. Then, even though the Accel was still working, I changed it for an MSD Blaster SS Coil (made a custom bracket to hang off the A/C evaporator box), it's been there for years. (Later I added an MSD 6AL box)

So really it's whichever brand you like, or whatever's on sale- both brands are durable and will be better than your 24-year-old original coil.

texascat2

You have two posts on the same topic! I replaced my dead factory coil with an Accel. Been on there for 8 years, no problems at all!

Project 3.4 Camaro

Most people prefer MSD, including myself, I've heard accel is overrated and overpriced...but idk cause I've never used it, my car has MSD cap&rotor, MSD coil and they work great.

FireInMe17

I want this one just because it has yellow lettering like my dash, haha.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PRO-66937C/?rtype=10

Project 3.4 Camaro

Personally I like red ignition components, my plug wires, cap, rotor, and coil are all red.

FireInMe17

I want to paint my valve covers red once I rebuild the engine, but other than that, I want it to look stock.

Project 3.4 Camaro

If you can, spring for powdercoating instead, paint will tend to chip, especially if you don't prep it right, take if from someone who's been there.

86 Camaro joe

Tom P

when you put the MSD 6AL box
could you feel i difference ?

btw i got the msd coil

Killert

iTrader: (9)

I just put a 6Al2 in my V6, I've noticed the feel of more torque on the butt dyno

Project 3.4 Camaro

I can't wait to adopt the DIS setup on my 3.4....but first I have to finish fixing up the car and get a tuneable ECM that can also run DIS.

RSFreak

I've got an MSD 6AL and a Blaster coil on my 2.8L.

86 Camaro joe

damm rs freak nice 2.8
how do you like the whole msd set up ?

nice cold air where you get it ?

Project 3.4 Camaro

there is no air intake in that picture...

86 Camaro joe

if you go to his page and look at his other pics you will see it ,

Maverick H1L

iTrader: (8)

Well, since it was asked, the guys who designed our ignition systems say they're crap, but that's the way it had to be done. They also say that if not using the stock coil and going for a better one, an MSD Blaster oil filled can coil or similar should be used and that the coil should be mounted away from a heat source to help it last. Personally, I had an Accel stock replacement... It was a $45 paperweight until I finally threw it out a couple months ago. Others on here have bought Accel parts and have had nothing but problems with them (injectors).

86 Camaro joe

where should i place my coil in not next to the motor ?
drill it some where

Project 3.4 Camaro

Best place imo is at the top and middle of the firewall, best place I've seen one mounted.

Maverick H1L

iTrader: (8)

Put the coil anywhere it's NOT 8 inches or so away from 600* (or so) exhaust parts... Especially if you plan on running headers in the future.

TomP

After I put my 6AL box on, the only real difference I noticed was that my car took slightly longer to start (about 3/4 second of "crank time" then a half-second). It's definitely higher voltage because it melted my non-brass rotor button (now I have to use MSD's cap/rotor) and chews up the plugs faster. If your ignition system's in good shape already you probalby won't notice a difference.

RSfreak, nice heater-only box!

Killert

iTrader: (9)

I noticed that too, its starts right up but it's noticeably longer

TomP

Hey cool I thought I was all alone! Glad to hear it happened to someone else too.

Gumby

These are the only 4 coils you should use.

NAPA IC12
MSD 8200
Summit G5215
Carquest 26189

I run the G5215 with my MSD, they are the only coils approved by Dave Ray that pass his rigrious spin test, he doesn't consult for pro race teams cause hes a boob

Gumby

Nice to see you crawl back out of the wood work

I noticed no change on start up but my MSD box is on a carb V8 which usually takes 2 tries till the manaul pump get gas moving. So it could be the same, dunno but maybe its a matter of charge time? MSD don't fire till it juiced up. Maybe turn the key on and wait a sec before starting???

like turing on a stereo, there is a slight delay till the amp juices up and works, yet the speakers not on the amp are instant on.

eric17422001

Hey Tom P and I both logged in and posted within a week! Where ya been Tom?

I had a Mallory 6A box on my wife's '91 3.1 RS and noted no difference, I did it mainly as I got it fairly cheap off Ebay and wanted to see everyone's claims. I found nil. Mileage etc the same. Now, when someone takes a car that needs plug wires, cap etc and they replace it all and say "WOW what a difference!" It ain't an apples to apples comparo if ya know what I mean.

Now in Mathew's case on a carburetted vechicle- yes, they do make more of a difference in starting and bottom end smoothness as they make up for some fuel mixture inefficiencies of the carb setup.

In my 355 powered S10 I run a Mallory HEI only as my stocker was worn out and the Mallory replacement was on sale. But no multi spark boxes. I have run a 13.22@103.9 with that truck and am fairly convinced that until you need rev limiting capabilities or some sort of boost or nitrous spark retard the good 'ol GM module and distributor are more than adequate to do the job.

Gumby

That made it worth it, cold starting is 100% better, once the choke is set right [I use a full manual choke] it runs like a FI car when cold [engine and outside temp wise]. No more rev'in to blow it out so all the plugs fire good and needing to let it warm up a min, would get pissy sometimes if not.
Other then that no notice in MPG or anything. Id do it again though.

A tip Summit boxes are just Mallory boxs with a Summit sticker n a cheaper price. Though MSD is king for a reason.

[ Side note, I hate when someone uses my full name, Its means they know to much ]

TomP

Hey Eric & Gumby- it's always glad to see some familiar screen names! I just got the Firebird started after 2 years of "dead fuel pump", after changing the fuel pump and draining old/bad gas (and other various pre-startup-procedures), the engine fired right up. Luckily it wasn't seized- although the alternator was. And the Interstate battery sat dead for all that time, 1 day on my charger and it's back to good again. Funny how time slips away so fast! G that notchback looks great on there. Did you mold those hood scoops into the factory hood?

RSFreak

Thanks! My engine was a bit cleaner when that pic was taken. I made the CAI mostly out of Spectre stuff from Schucks and Autozone. I cut a 4" hole where the evap canister used to be and mounted the filter below.

Heres a better pic of the completed CAI. (sorry to jack this thread) ;-)

RSFreak

Thats what you get with a no-option car! My buddy and I snag those boxes from the junkyard whenever we see them as people always seem to want them.

TomP

I found one once- and yes I have it, but I didn't take the squirrel cage (left it on the fender). Later on I found out the squirrel cage is smaller... So if I ever use my heater-only box (I lost my a/c years ago in an accident, condensor burst, so I never put it back in), I'll have to rig up a spacer for it. And I thought of it later that I should've grabbed the heater-only control head too. Oh well.