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i have a budget of about 50-60 each for rear tires. i need something that has good traction in the rain and decent traction dry. right now i have goodyear eagle GTII's (from the previous owner) and they got me into trouble in the rain (which is why i needed a new panhard bar....) they were discontinued by goodyear, i wonder why
245/50/16 what would u guys recommend?
thanks
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Click sig for Cardomain SOLD: 91 Z28, original paint, 35% tint, 305 TPI, headers, high flow cat, American thunder cat back, shift kit, 3.73 gears, Lakewood adjustable panhard rod, TB cone filter, Superior Axle and Gear Evolution Series axle shafts, Energy Suspension poly trans mount, Jet Fan Switch, 255/50/16 Falken Ziex ZE-512. my video
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Locally, I got Kuhmo 711s for under $70 apiece mounted and balanced. They've got great dry grip, and they're directional, so wet traction is good also. The reviews I read said to never drive them in the snow, though; so, if you see plenty of the white stuff where you are, I'd look for something else.
Honestly, I havent driven them enough to tell. Right now, I'm rebuilding the suspension (all of it), and plan to do my TPI swap very soon after. So, maybe by late spring to early summer, I can start putting some miles on them.
I Presently am running with Hankook VENTUS H Rated Tires .
245/45/16 . These are BLACK WALL Tires . No raised White Lettering . I do not know what their Price is EACH , but they are Reasonable .
I also have a Question for ANY ONE - What is a Good Performance Tire with WHITE RAISED LETTERING for the 3RD Gen with 16 Inch Wheels?
It seems it is HARD to Get Lettered Tires where I am Located . Every Tire I ask about from Dealers is BLACK WALL ONLY . Geez , I think the LETTERING on Tires is SEXY ! What do I gotta Do , get Mickey Thompson's ? LOL
Last edited by Meinherr49; 03-02-2007 at 06:50 PM.
Finding a 16" performance tire for a car,trucks are a different story,with raised white letters is going to be tough.Just about all I've ever seen have raised black letters.You might try a search on a website like Tire Rack( http://www.tirerack.com )to see if any companies make what you're looking for.
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Falken Ziex 512 for $65/tire in the size you're looking for. Great rain tire, pretty darn good in the dry too, and overall an awesome bang for the buck tire. You will be very hard pressed to beat this tire for the price. Sears carries them and will usually price match, even on Internet pricing. http://www.edgeracing.com/tires/2455016/ is where I found this price, but keep in mind that is for the tires only, NOT mounting and balancing. Your target price of $50-$60 is a pretty tough order for that size.
I second the Zeix's, I pulled 2 off of a 3000GT virtually brand new and the wear on them is awesome, plus they're A rated traction and not to awful in the rain.
friend owned Kuhmos, broke belts in all 4 of them on his Eclipse; I'de definetly go with the Falken Zeix's before the Kuhmo's; besides at Sears the Falkens were on sale a while back and were even cheaper than the Kuhmo's, no clue if they're still that way but it would be worth checking in on. PS the g/f runs Zeix's all around on her Nissan Altima, I trust these things in a major way.
Originally posted by CrazyHawaiian My honest recommendation is not to do tires on a budget. I would spend as much as possible for the best ones possible for your application.
i need to focus my budget on getting the car driveable (axle shafts, oil seals, bearings, and the panhard rod) before focusing them on tires... i dont plan on driving the car fast untill i know i can afford to fix it the next time i wreck
i had the same exact question.but i need all 4 and ended up going with the falken ziex 512 size 255/50/16...they are great in the rain and drive i am very satisfied...they dont rub at all...the best thing is i got them to the door for $308....that is my suggestion from experience...check them out at edge racing...try this edgeracing.com/tires/2555016/ hope this helps man....
RAdial t\as come in a 245 50 16 that will fit and fill out the wheel well a little better than stock and its really not a bad performing tire for the $$ I would look into that
Originally posted by 1991CamaroRslow I second the Zeix's, I pulled 2 off of a 3000GT virtually brand new and the wear on them is awesome, plus they're A rated traction and not to awful in the rain.
I've got a set of Falken Ziex-512's 245X45X17 waiting at Discount Tire for me to have installed when the chrome 17X8 IROC wheels come in (suppose to be Wednesday). I'm paying $109 each w/ mounting, lifetime balance, rotation, road hazard. That is the cheapest prices around here. Sears has them on sale for $123.95 each in my size. Consumer Reports rated them 'Top Pick'. They beat out Michelin, Goodyear, Yokhama and others.
Originally posted by 1991CamaroRslow friend owned Kuhmos, broke belts in all 4 of them on his Eclipse; I'de definetly go with the Falken Zeix's before the Kuhmo's; besides at Sears the Falkens were on sale a while back and were even cheaper than the Kuhmo's, no clue if they're still that way but it would be worth checking in on. PS the g/f runs Zeix's all around on her Nissan Altima, I trust these things in a major way.
I was planning on buying the Kuhmo's and I read to many negative reviews, so I changed my order to the Ziex 512's.
Lower dollar Kuhmo tires are junk period, you'll never see them on my car because they break belts. Some Mastercraft tires are the same way and you won't see those on anything I'm riding in unless they came on it. The Zeix's are great, g/fs car has around 40,000 miles on them and the wear is excellent, friends automatic Eclipse had the Kuhmo's on it and they lasted about 60,000 miles total. You won't regret ditching those Kuhmo's, they get good reviews because people get them so cheap they think "well it was worth it in the end" or they drive places where they never hit pot holes or debris in the road. Sorry for the rant but those Kuhmo tires just remind me of Kia's, they're known to suck and people see it but they still know this one guy who had them and "never had any problems" so they talk themselves into buying a set to save some change when good tires were only a few dollars more away... shew that was a load off there, it's nice to see guys honing in on the zeix tires, these are seriously nice tires for a good price.
Originally posted by 1991CamaroRslow Lower dollar Kuhmo tires are junk period, you'll never see them on my car because they break belts. Some Mastercraft tires are the same way and you won't see those on anything I'm riding in unless they came on it. The Zeix's are great, g/fs car has around 40,000 miles on them and the wear is excellent, friends automatic Eclipse had the Kuhmo's on it and they lasted about 60,000 miles total. You won't regret ditching those Kuhmo's, they get good reviews because people get them so cheap they think "well it was worth it in the end" or they drive places where they never hit pot holes or debris in the road. Sorry for the rant but those Kuhmo tires just remind me of Kia's, they're known to suck and people see it but they still know this one guy who had them and "never had any problems" so they talk themselves into buying a set to save some change when good tires were only a few dollars more away... shew that was a load off there, it's nice to see guys honing in on the zeix tires, these are seriously nice tires for a good price.
5k miles on my 711's and no sign of wear and no problems with the tires what so ever. the 711's are not as bad as you think. esp for $55 a tire. sure there are better, but when you NEED tires and are on a VERY tight budget, they are a great option, esp if you drive your car like mine, about 5K miles a year, and no snow.
There's another very similar thread going on around here talking about the Falken Ziex 512 vs Kumho Ecsta 711. Yep, the Kumhos are about $8 cheaper per tire, but in my experience with both tires on the same car, the Falkens win hands down. There's almost no comparison, and I initially liked the Kumhos.
No disrespect to 92MaroRS as I have no doubt that your experience with the 711s has been positive, but for the few dollars more it takes to get into the Falkens I think they're a better move.
Originally posted by Mike-in-Orange There's another very similar thread going on around here talking about the Falken Ziex 512 vs Kumho Ecsta 711. Yep, the Kumhos are about $8 cheaper per tire, but in my experience with both tires on the same car, the Falkens win hands down. There's almost no comparison, and I initially liked the Kumhos.
No disrespect to 92MaroRS as I have no doubt that your experience with the 711s has been positive, but for the few dollars more it takes to get into the Falkens I think they're a better move.
Well, tirerack didnt list the Falken's when i was in need of tires as well so i wasnt even aware of that option, but alas, im satisfied and will leave them on until they are bald, or i get new rims.
your budget is perfect for the falkens now.....not really a bad idea if two is all you need....if they are only going to be for the rears go for some bigger ones like the255/50/16's...that is as long as you dont intend to rotate.....
I would recommend B.F. Goodrich G-Force Sports- excellent traction dry and pretty good in the wet. I paid about $90 a piece out the door after I called a dozen tire shops in town. The price started at like $140 a tire and ended up being just shy of $90 when I finished calling.
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will 255/50/16 rub my fenders or affect my suspension geometry at all (in the rear only)? will it look like the tires are too wide for the rims?
__________________ -Dan
Click sig for Cardomain SOLD: 91 Z28, original paint, 35% tint, 305 TPI, headers, high flow cat, American thunder cat back, shift kit, 3.73 gears, Lakewood adjustable panhard rod, TB cone filter, Superior Axle and Gear Evolution Series axle shafts, Energy Suspension poly trans mount, Jet Fan Switch, 255/50/16 Falken Ziex ZE-512. my video
I just got four falkens in that size...and i had the same concern.But to my suprise none of them rub at all on my 92 rs...if i can get my cam to work i will post some pics...but i am really satisfied with them...they dont buldge out over the rim but they do have a rim guard on them to keep the curbs and stuff from scuffing your wheels...the 255/60/15's are about the same size around as the factory suggested 235/55/16's so there is really no differance in the height and they are just a little wider but dont protrude out of the fender...I live in the county where there are alot of hills and bumps and i have noticed no rubbing on my fenders at all....hope this helps....if i had it to do all over again i would have went with a 275/50/16 on the rear to give it that wider in the back look...but thats just me...
does anyone have any pics of 255 tires? how much do they stick out? im worried the falkens will look bad because they already have a rim protection ridge thing. it will only cost 6 more dollars to get 255's...how much more tread am i getting in inches (compared to 245)?
Originally posted by rwdtech does anyone have any pics of 255 tires? how much do they stick out? im worried the falkens will look bad because they already have a rim protection ridge thing. it will only cost 6 more dollars to get 255's...how much more tread am i getting in inches (compared to 245)?
i have 255s on my rear and 245s on my front...id suggest to go with the 255s...no issues at all of rubbing or anything wierd. They dont stick out that much farther at all...no one would ever notice and less you compare both dead on...as for traction there amazing...i also have the bfg g-sports highly recommend this tire...DAMN good traction like i said great all around have prolly 5k miles little signs of wear...and thats with a few burnouts. My front 245 g sports arent that bold on the edges like my junk old Dunlops SP5000s did. Dunlops suck plain and simple not worth it. Horrible in the rain, and they wore out too fast.
and for a side note...dan ur back! remember me buddy? never knew u stayed on the board with a different name good deal.
Originally posted by rwdtech does anyone have any pics of 255 tires? how much do they stick out? im worried the falkens will look bad because they already have a rim protection ridge thing. it will only cost 6 more dollars to get 255's...how much more tread am i getting in inches (compared to 245)?
the 245's are 9.645 inches wide and the 255's are 10.039 inches wide.....at edge racing i got the 255/50/16's for $66 wich was one whole dollar more than the 245/50/16's...and the 255's were a Y rated tire compared to the H rating on the 245's which basically means the side wall on the 255's are a little thicker and will not "flex" as much in cornering and it is a higher speed rating also.....I am very satisfied with my falkens and i even got to try them in the snow today here in TN.they were excellant...If i can get my camera working i will post some pics... i had the same concerns you do about them sticking out but they dont and they look great on the car....
How much better are those Falkens than the stock goodyears? I think to get the tires that came on my car from the factory is like over $100 per tire, but from what i gather there pretty ****ty goodyears. What do you guys think? How much better are these falcons, or even like fuzions or something, than my stock replacement goodyear tires.
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Originally posted by dwillis all i can say is if you do be careful it looks pretty bad....is it a front or a rear wheel
its a rear...i just want to be able to use the car for my date on tuesday ...no hard cornering or burnouts
BTW how do you pronounce "Ziex", the name of the tire
__________________ -Dan
Click sig for Cardomain SOLD: 91 Z28, original paint, 35% tint, 305 TPI, headers, high flow cat, American thunder cat back, shift kit, 3.73 gears, Lakewood adjustable panhard rod, TB cone filter, Superior Axle and Gear Evolution Series axle shafts, Energy Suspension poly trans mount, Jet Fan Switch, 255/50/16 Falken Ziex ZE-512. my video
Originally posted by rwdtech its a rear...i just want to be able to use the car for my date on tuesday ...no hard cornering or burnouts
BTW how do you pronounce "Ziex", the name of the tire
kinda hard to spell pronunciation of a word...but i think if you just say "ZX" that'll be pretty close...
those would be fine to use as a temp to get by...just didn't want them to be on the front where you would loose your brakes if you had a blowout...p.s. Good luck on your date
well i went to discount tire today and got a "full size spare" its a 205/xx/15 chrome steel wheel. its ugly but its the same diameter as the stock wheels so it will get me by untill i can find a Z28. its been impossible to find a damn Z28 wheel...
well my 3rd gen is officially trashy but at least it gets me where i need to go
I was just Wondering Guys , What do you think of the Tires I mentioned I had on my Car ? HANKOOK Ventus HRI 's 245/45/16 ?
They Any Good ? I bought the Car with Them on It . Comments.?
Last edited by Meinherr49; 02-15-2006 at 06:04 PM.
well my 3rd gen is officially trashy but at least it gets me where i need to go [/b][/quote] you think yours is trashy!!!
Mine has red duct tape covering the old RS spoiler holes where i put a Z28 decklid and spoiler on mine(just until i get it in the body shop of course......but at least its red tape right...you cant tell until you get up close....heres a far pic of it
Discount Tire has a remanufactured Z28 wheel for $250...does that sound bad?
__________________ -Dan
Click sig for Cardomain SOLD: 91 Z28, original paint, 35% tint, 305 TPI, headers, high flow cat, American thunder cat back, shift kit, 3.73 gears, Lakewood adjustable panhard rod, TB cone filter, Superior Axle and Gear Evolution Series axle shafts, Energy Suspension poly trans mount, Jet Fan Switch, 255/50/16 Falken Ziex ZE-512. my video
...no hard cornering or burnouts
