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Old 07-30-2013, 12:30 AM
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Re: My new wheels. 17x9 & 17x10 OG San (cross-lace style)

robertfrank, jazzdadss, Holmes and GTA777 thanks for the compliments on the wheels.


Originally Posted by brdofpry85ta
Those do look great......bout time someone made some bigger replicas

Actually a 275-40-17 is a better/exact fit size for a 17x9 wheel....(stock 4 gens w/17's have 275's on them)....

But with a 9 front and 10 rear to really get that staggered look you can do a 255-45-17 front and a 285-40-17 rear. They both are 25.94 in. tall (stock 3rd gen 16's are 25.7).....and a 285 will fit better on a 10" wheel....

check out the Nitto 555's.... http://www.nittotire.com/Tire/nt555#size

I have Boyd Codington Magnito's 17x8 F with 245-45-17 and 17x10 R 315-35-17....

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brdofpry85ta thanks for the input I am still deciding on the tire measurements (I want to get it right). I will take a look at the above stated. I already had the 555s in mind as well as the Falken FK452s.
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Re: My new wheels. 17x9 & 17x10 OG San (cross-lace style)

Originally Posted by GTA777
I always thought our rims bolt pattern were 5 X 120 and not 5 X 120.65. Due to the mm, which is very small, would the rim not fit on our cars? I found a dealer in Canada who can get these for me and was about to purchase them but want to make sure these would fit.

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They will fit, however with tapered seat lugnuts, the .65 difference will bend the studs slightly. After several times of torquing the lugnuts you could break one. Spacers will increase the distance that the bending occurs over, and decrease the stresses.
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They will fit, however with tapered seat lugnuts, the .65 difference will bend the studs slightly. After several times of torquing the lugnuts you could break one. Spacers will increase the distance that the bending occurs over, and decrease the stresses.
Roostmeyer, ah I understand now, the lugnut will force the studs to bend. Hhhmm, I saw something about wobbly lugnuts, so I imagine if I can get some with the right thread count it should reduce the stresses.

Sorry for being a newbie about this.

Thanks for your help.
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I always thought our rims bolt pattern were 5 X 120 and not 5 X 120.65. Due to the small variance, .65 mm, which is very small, would the rim not fit on our cars? I found a dealer in Canada who can get these for me and was about to purchase them but want to make sure these would fit.

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Who's the dealer and what was the quoted price if you don't mind me asking?
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Re: My new wheels. 17x9 & 17x10 OG San (cross-lace style)

These are awesome, just changed my mind for wheels, these will retain my stock appearance as well and will look great with the stock beige color top!!
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Who's the dealer and what was the quoted price if you don't mind me asking?
KXWheels in Richmond (I think) BC. $275 for 17 X 10s. Google KXWheels. They don't have it on their website, only the 15" 4 bolt ones. I contact them and they said the rims are new which is why they're not on the site. I was talking with Gabe.
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KXWheels in Richmond (I think) BC. $275 for 17 X 10s. Google KXWheels. They don't have it on their website, only the 15" 4 bolt ones. I contact them and they said the rims are new which is why they're not on the site. I was talking with Gabe.
Wow I'm surprised they are offering it at that price, most of the wheels I looked at before were pretty expensive compared to USA prices from them. Thanks for the heads up

Now is it worth it to swap...
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Re: My new wheels. 17x9 & 17x10 OG San (cross-lace style)

Originally Posted by Downshift
Threw on a set of OG San wheels on my Z28. I had to have these wheels because I love the lip in the rear and the fact that they are a 17 x 10. I got in touch with Axis Wheels and they made it happen. I'm stoked.

The set up up front is a 17x9 +10 with a 1in spacer and rear is 17x10 +15 with an 8mm spacer.





Nice job. Car looks damn good with those wheels. Pipes look nice too
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I want those wheels but in 18". I emailed Axis today to see about having some built and to also make the outer hub fit the factory center caps. Hopefully we can work something out. I will keep everyone posted.
Dude, my thoughts, exactly!!! We need these in 18" with the CORRECT backspacing and bolt pattern
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Originally Posted by akanitro
If I don't get an email response from them by Tuesday, I will make some phone calls and see if they can help us out. Lets see if they can build them and what kind of pricing they are talking about. And yes, if we could do 18" or 19" even and proper offsets to avoid spacers and wider tires too would be awesome. I do want to emphasize the center hub diameter to utilize our factory center caps though and also want to find out if they can be made without the bolts at the outer ring of the wheel to the barrel area.
I actually like the black bolts! Way more tasteful than those bolts done on the 18inch grand national rims. While we're at it, we should get the paint done in the exact GTA crosslace paint code.
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Re: My new wheels. 17x9 & 17x10 OG San (cross-lace style)

Allright, I'm gonna be a tool and reply a 3rd time. I think it's not cool that these guys aren't willing to make these in 18 inches, especially considering there is an existing market for them and that people are already purchasing the 17 inch version.

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Downshift,

Isn't there a spacer available that adapts your GM bolt patern to the BMW bolt pattern?
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very nice just bought my iroc a few weeks ago looking for some wheels love the look of those
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Originally Posted by wgripp
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Isn't there a spacer available that adapts your GM bolt patern to the BMW bolt pattern?
I'm sure you can have a 1" spacer drilled to 5x120 => 5x120.65 to use on this wheel in regards to the front two. However, for the rear you just need an 8 mm spacer so there is no bolt patter correction there. I am using a 5x120 => 5x120 1" spacer in the front and a 4 mm in the rear on my current setup, I have not had any problems (18" TSW Valencias)....
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Update:

I decided to go with Sumitomo HTR Z IIs. 245/45 in the front and 275/40s in the rear. They got mounted today and I have to say I really liked the way they fit. I got that "donut" look without having to stretch the tires. I hope to put them on the car this weekend.

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That's hot!!!!

Man, I just wish they had these rims in 18 inches with the right backspacing
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Beautiful. Congrats
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I can't see the pics, but I'd love to see them, can you repost them??
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I can't see the pics, but I'd love to see them, can you repost them??
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This thread keeps getting better and better.
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IROCgiraffe I will try and upload some shots once the wheels are on the car (by Sunday I hope). Hopefully they will not look too bulky.
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Nice wheels! Cool looking car all around.
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Hopefully they will not look too bulky.
Them thangs gonna look just Fine! Looking forward to pics on the car
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Width & height comparison of the rear wheels and tires. Old set up and new set up as well as pic of the spacer used in the rear, 8mm or 5/16. **NOTE** The rear will require longer wheel bolts to compensate for the spacer. I’m going to be getting some ARP extended studs soon.
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Width & height comparison of the front wheels and tires. Old set up and new set up as well as pic of the 1” spacer used in the front.
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Now…the mounted wheels.
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Re: My new wheels. 17x9 & 17x10 OG San (cross-lace style)

Originally Posted by Downshift
Width & height comparison of the rear wheels and tires. Old set up and new set up as well as pic of the spacer used in the rear, 8mm or 5/16. **NOTE** The rear will require longer wheel bolts to compensate for the spacer. I’m going to be getting some ARP extended studs soon.




Width & height comparison of the front wheels and tires. Old set up and new set up as well as pic of the 1” spacer used in the front.




Now…the mounted wheels.





Look AWESOME!
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Do you think the rears will hit the fender lip if you bottom out? They look like the stick out just slightly more than stock.

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It is hard to tell by just looking at it because it is so close. If I was to lower the car or was worried about bottoming out I would go with a thinner spacer. I will check like in the picture you posted.
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Good view on that pic, looks like you should be in the clear! I really like the rims, I'd get gold ones for my black GTA, but I don't want to hide my Baer calipers
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need. these. wheels. in. 18inches. with. proper. backspacing.

they. look. so. good.

Good job guys!

The irony is, usually it's us GTA guys that cry for crosslace wheels, and here, we have two camaro guys leading from the front!
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So with a 4th gen rear you wouldnt need a spacer? Would a 17x10 fit the front? Can we just order a set not painted?
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Ordered these wheels for my TTA yesterday, can't wait to see how they look on the car. I went a little different on the sizing and I'll post the details and pictures once we get them on the car.
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Ordered these wheels for my TTA yesterday, can't wait to see how they look on the car. I went a little different on the sizing and I'll post the details and pictures once we get them on the car.

Awsome! Yeah post the pics. I'd love to see them on a TTA and I'm sure a lot of others would too. I'm guessing you went 17x10 all the way around?
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So with a 4th gen rear you wouldnt need a spacer? Would a 17x10 fit the front? Can we just order a set not painted?
I'm not sure if they are a direct fit to the 4th gen F body rear end on the 3rd gen F body combo. I would think that the 17x10 would work on the front but am not 100% sure. I do not belive you can order a raw set, but you can always have them customized as there are many shops out there that mod wheels.

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I was a bit weary when I read the thread title. But it works great for your car. Gives it a sweet style. Gotta be dedicated putting those wheels on but it looks great. Good Job!
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definitely waiting. I was ready to pull the trigger and order mine but now I have to see what you have in store as we have the same color and body car.
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I was wondering what type of lugs are you using with those wheels?
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Originally Posted by CAMAROJOKESTER
I was wondering what type of lugs are you using with those wheels?

Right now the car has the stock 41.5 mm lenth lugs. I was considering ARP but they are too long for street use really so I think I will end up going with Doorman Products (610-323) 54 mm.
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Downshift, your car looks amazing! Loving the new rims and tires, very good choices.
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Downshift, your car looks amazing! Loving the new rims and tires, very good choices.
i don't think amazing describes it. i would say FANFREAKINGTASTIC!!!
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i don't think amazing describes it. i would say FANFREAKINGTASTIC!!!
Originally Posted by onthedownlow
Downshift, your car looks amazing! Loving the new rims and tires, very good choices.
Oh wow guys. Thank you so much for the great comments. It really helps motivate this build.
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I have 275/40 on a 9.5" Ron, they fit great no bulging sidewall.
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I decided on these tires when I saw user kevin91z's fire hawks and the tire size he had on. I really like the way they fit.
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Got the longer wheel studs installed.
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VERY NICE!!
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Originally Posted by IMissMy86TA
VERY NICE!!
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Wow man you car looks amazing. I want a set so bad but Ive wanted a set of ronals for so dam long. I would want these but I dont want to run a spacer as I want to do alot of track stuff and a spacer just isnt ideal for that. Still I mightpull the trigger on a set just to have them for driving around on. If you dont mind me asking is it a 3rd or 4th gen rear in your car?
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Wow man you car looks amazing. I want a set so bad but Ive wanted a set of ronals for so dam long. I would want these but I dont want to run a spacer as I want to do alot of track stuff and a spacer just isnt ideal for that. Still I mightpull the trigger on a set just to have them for driving around on. If you dont mind me asking is it a 3rd or 4th gen rear in your car?
Hey 6six6, thanks for the compliment. The rear end is 3rd gen.
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Re: My new wheels. 17x9 & 17x10 OG San (cross-lace style)

First off thanks for bringing these to our attention! I just picked up a set for my GTA.

Will be having them mounted tomorrow.

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Do we really need extended wheel studs for the 8mm spacer? These cars came with an 8mm spacer from the factory on the stock wheels in the back & the lugnuts thread of their fine. Is this just something extra you wanted to do?
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Re: My new wheels. 17x9 & 17x10 OG San (cross-lace style)

Originally Posted by MMroc86
First off thanks for bringing these to our attention! I just picked up a set for my GTA.

Will be having them mounted tomorrow.

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Do we really need extended wheel studs for the 8mm spacer? These cars came with an 8mm spacer from the factory on the stock wheels in the back & the lugnuts thread of their fine. Is this just something extra you wanted to do?
I can"t wait to see these on a GTA.
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Originally Posted by robertfrank
I can"t wait to see these on a GTA.
same here!


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