Dyno Don's Headers
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Normally, one's intent on posting here in the first place is to let everyone know if you got bad service, a bad fitting part or whatever, and suddenly everyone that had positive experiences begin not only to post thier experience (which is fine IMO) - but then...bashing begins.
The "bash fest" normally continues and includes the OP (or others that didn't have a positive experience) get accused of improper installation, tampering with the product or in this case - having a twisted frame or the like. It's almost like he's just lying about everything...the fact that other headers have fit the car fine etc...
The "bash fest" normally continues and includes the OP (or others that didn't have a positive experience) get accused of improper installation, tampering with the product or in this case - having a twisted frame or the like. It's almost like he's just lying about everything...the fact that other headers have fit the car fine etc...
I have made up a few more sets and have moved the tubes around a little in that area, I know that it is close there and hopefully this will take care of that issue for the ones that are close. There isn't a lot of room right there and I have to make sure it will clear with the stock oil cooler.
Again I will say, anyone with that problem, send the thing back and I will get one of these coated and sent off to you.
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I've also got Dyno Don's headers on my car and NO PROBLEMS!
One other thing. I note your comment: 8 of them had fittment issues due to clapsed motor mounts or the mounts are on the wrong side. I know it's frustrating,
These fitment issues were never disclosed.
Do you seriously claim that you need to be told that if the motor mounts are reversed or collapsed, there may be a fitment issue? I don't have nearly the experience with cars that you do and I would be embarrassed to make a statement like that.
One other thing. I note your comment: 8 of them had fittment issues due to clapsed motor mounts or the mounts are on the wrong side. I know it's frustrating,
These fitment issues were never disclosed.
Do you seriously claim that you need to be told that if the motor mounts are reversed or collapsed, there may be a fitment issue? I don't have nearly the experience with cars that you do and I would be embarrassed to make a statement like that.
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He's offered to exchange yours for a set I personally saw fit on a car in his shop that's in for repairs and they fit perfectly. You should except the offer to exchange and if the still hit it's on you.
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I also have sent an email requesting a quote..99.9% have been good reviews..good enough for me.
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I'm actually planning on buying another set from Don soon, this time without AIR tubes, and I'm 100% confident that his headers will fit just as well as the set on my car now.
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SHORT TERM; I got my stuff in a little less than 2 months ago. Un-coated Y-Pipe/parts surface rusted before they were removed from the box. Last week I blasted/painted them to prevent it from spreading before the Y gets mounted.
Be prepared to treat those parts as soon as they arrive.
Be prepared to treat those parts as soon as they arrive.
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Come on guys, lets put this to bed.
I have made up a few more sets and have moved the tubes around a little in that area, I know that it is close there and hopefully this will take care of that issue for the ones that are close. There isn't a lot of room right there and I have to make sure it will clear with the stock oil cooler.
Again I will say, anyone with that problem, send the thing back and I will get one of these coated and sent off to you.
I have made up a few more sets and have moved the tubes around a little in that area, I know that it is close there and hopefully this will take care of that issue for the ones that are close. There isn't a lot of room right there and I have to make sure it will clear with the stock oil cooler.
Again I will say, anyone with that problem, send the thing back and I will get one of these coated and sent off to you.
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SHORT TERM; I got my stuff in a little less than 2 months ago. Un-coated Y-Pipe/parts surface rusted before they were removed from the box. Last week I blasted/painted them to prevent it from spreading before the Y gets mounted.
Be prepared to treat those parts as soon as they arrive.
Be prepared to treat those parts as soon as they arrive.
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The headers are ceramic coated, the Y-pipes aren't both are steal not stainless, I've had mine for at least 6 years now with no rust but i live in California.
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I thought the y pipe was stainless. If it is and rusts its 409 stainless which the slps were made of. If it was 304 it would get kinda a gold color after heat cycles. From my understanding 409 is a lower grade stainless., ie cheaper than 304. Dont know if the the headers are 409 as well. I know the hawks are 304 thats why they are big$$. You get what you pay for.
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I thought the y pipe was stainless. If it is and rusts its 409 stainless which the slps were made of. If it was 304 it would get kinda a gold color after heat cycles. From my understanding 409 is a lower grade stainless., ie cheaper than 304. Dont know if the the headers are 409 as well. I know the hawks are 304 thats why they are big$$. You get what you pay for.
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Come on guys, lets put this to bed.
I have made up a few more sets and have moved the tubes around a little in that area, I know that it is close there and hopefully this will take care of that issue for the ones that are close. There isn't a lot of room right there and I have to make sure it will clear with the stock oil cooler.
Again I will say, anyone with that problem, send the thing back and I will get one of these coated and sent off to you.
I have made up a few more sets and have moved the tubes around a little in that area, I know that it is close there and hopefully this will take care of that issue for the ones that are close. There isn't a lot of room right there and I have to make sure it will clear with the stock oil cooler.
Again I will say, anyone with that problem, send the thing back and I will get one of these coated and sent off to you.
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Get the y high temp powder coated and you're golden. That's what I did.
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Yes and no. SLP made their headers out of 409 more for the fact they they could take the heating and cooling cycles better than 304. 304 in a header is ok in most header applications but in drag racing its known to crack from the heating and cooling while 409 can take it a bit better. For a street car either is fine though as far as im concerned.
409=functional but ugly
304= functional and pretty
Lol
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So you guys think the metal Dyno Don uses will last just fine being coated on outside only for the header and uncoated Y-pipe.
I don't wanna pay someone else to re-coat them on the inside or concern myself with the y-pipe corroding any time soon.
If you guys bolt them up as is and have success, that's all I need to hear to buy a set!
I don't wanna pay someone else to re-coat them on the inside or concern myself with the y-pipe corroding any time soon.
If you guys bolt them up as is and have success, that's all I need to hear to buy a set!
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So you guys think the metal Dyno Don uses will last just fine being coated on outside only for the header and uncoated Y-pipe.
I don't wanna pay someone else to re-coat them on the inside or concern myself with the y-pipe corroding any time soon.
If you guys bolt them up as is and have success, that's all I need to hear to buy a set!
I don't wanna pay someone else to re-coat them on the inside or concern myself with the y-pipe corroding any time soon.
If you guys bolt them up as is and have success, that's all I need to hear to buy a set!
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So you guys think the metal Dyno Don uses will last just fine being coated on outside only for the header and uncoated Y-pipe.
I don't wanna pay someone else to re-coat them on the inside or concern myself with the y-pipe corroding any time soon.
If you guys bolt them up as is and have success, that's all I need to hear to buy a set!
I don't wanna pay someone else to re-coat them on the inside or concern myself with the y-pipe corroding any time soon.
If you guys bolt them up as is and have success, that's all I need to hear to buy a set!
The Y-pipe needs to be welded, which would burn through and the coating and it would ruined.
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I checked....
I can have the inside coated for an extra $70
I would paint the crossover with BBQ black heat paint.
I can have the inside coated for an extra $70
I would paint the crossover with BBQ black heat paint.
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I just installed my dyno dons this past weekend..I cannot be happier!! They fit and look great..and my 383 is loving them..Great Job to Don
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I helped install the headers and noted some differences between my set and the newer Dyno Dons. The flanges between the primaries are narrower and it looks like the pipes were moved around a little to enhance fit. These things went in REALLY easy on manolis1969's car.
Finally sounds like what a real 383 should sound like.
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update!!!!!!????? was the issue resolved? I would like a response from John or IROC1989!
It was a long thread with alot of back and forth and I would like to see how it all turned out.
It was a long thread with alot of back and forth and I would like to see how it all turned out.
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By the time the headers were re-configured My X-member was already shaved & my headers were already installed. I was not about to incure another $100+ expense and even more 'down-time' to pull them out again.
Another member has reported that the headers changes were significant after he compared the new and old design, butno pictures of the newly positioned Primary Tubes / collector have ever been posted.
Another member has reported that the headers changes were significant after he compared the new and old design, butno pictures of the newly positioned Primary Tubes / collector have ever been posted.
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Not sure if you would notice any difference in pictures.
I am able to get the y-pipe material in aluminized coating now.
I am able to get the y-pipe material in aluminized coating now.
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Just send me a free set with air tubes and will let you know how they fit.
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Sure, no problem, just look under your Christmas tree tomorrow morning, of course it will depend on whether you have been naughty or nice.....
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Another satisfied customer here. Don has dealt with me since last November and has answered all of my questions/concerns in a professional manner.
These headers are made right, and look great. They were put on and my car sounds 10x better and can breath 100x better than my hooker headers. Don good work!
These headers are made right, and look great. They were put on and my car sounds 10x better and can breath 100x better than my hooker headers. Don good work!
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Re: Dyno Don's Headers
I run my y-pipe inside the frame rails.
You don't do stainless do you? I hate ceramic.
Just curious.
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Sorry, no stainless
Joe..PM for price.
Be sure to mention what you are looking for (details)
Joe..PM for price.
Be sure to mention what you are looking for (details)
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Im bringing this thread back from the dead. Earlier in this thread the issues that people were having with K member clearance forced me to try to make a set of SLPs work on my angle plug heads. A few hundred dollars later and they just barely work and still leak a bit here and there (fail!). So i gave up and PM'd Don. My Dyno Dons came this past wednesday and are bolted on the car now.
Some observations for those that are interested but scared of K member issues. Don't be. Mine fit like a glove on both sides. Spark plug clearance is excellent as well for my angle plug dart heads. The big thing is use the hardware that Don recommends. There is no fitting a bigger bolt in there than the 5/16" head header bolts he recommends. The tubes are that big. I had most of those bolts from my failed SLP experiment but needed to order a few more. In closing i had these next to the old SLPs and the quality difference is immediately apparent. If you are right on the fence about ordering them i hope this pushes you over it. I dont regret it. Im looking forward to hearing no leaks on this damn car.
I will get pictures for this thread early next week hopefully. Im too busy this weekend with the american craft beer festival in BOSTON!!! WOOOHHHOOO.
Some observations for those that are interested but scared of K member issues. Don't be. Mine fit like a glove on both sides. Spark plug clearance is excellent as well for my angle plug dart heads. The big thing is use the hardware that Don recommends. There is no fitting a bigger bolt in there than the 5/16" head header bolts he recommends. The tubes are that big. I had most of those bolts from my failed SLP experiment but needed to order a few more. In closing i had these next to the old SLPs and the quality difference is immediately apparent. If you are right on the fence about ordering them i hope this pushes you over it. I dont regret it. Im looking forward to hearing no leaks on this damn car.
I will get pictures for this thread early next week hopefully. Im too busy this weekend with the american craft beer festival in BOSTON!!! WOOOHHHOOO.
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Does Dyno Don Still create these bad boys? I remember reading about these things with the AIR tubes and everything!!!!! that would be something i would look into.......
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http://www.top-downsolutions.com/pow...with-air-tubes
http://www.top-downsolutions.com/pow...hout-air-tubes
Yes Don still makes them and yes they are still available on Top-Down Solutions web site.
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http://www.top-downsolutions.com/pow...hout-air-tubes
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Hey, if Don ever did say a 1 7/8 shorty ls1 conversion type header I would sure buy it when it comes time! I got faith in Don, he tries to help peeps out.
If you want to get mad at me and start bashing, well, feel free to because I made it past douschebag's like Ed Maher and the rest of his pathetic cronies that wanted to do that all day to people way back when, hell I was bashed here before I even became a member because flyinlow posted pics of my car he got at cardomain because I put a saleen style wing and ram air 2 hood on mine, main part was because I was the first ever in the world to put cobra r's on a trans am and made them look better than they was on a mustang!
Opinions are like *******s, everyone has one, headers are always gonna be a pita, none of them will ever be "perfect" sure you might find a set that has little to no problems for the majority but somewhere someone will have a issue sooner or later. Never fails, it's part of the trade, nothing is perfect in this world, nothing.
I'd about be willing to bet if you had those issues, and as soon as you put them in if you had took pics showing Don the deal, that that man would have said send them back to me and I will take care of it, but my guess is you may have modified them or something?
Either way, bashing and talking smack will get ya nowhere and you will end up right back at the same problem you started out with only then with hurt feelings and burnt bridges just like fist fighting.
Most of us know that through experience, some may have yet to learn that, but either way we all do sooner or later.
Best regards to both parties and I hope you can find a resolution to this issue.
If you want to get mad at me and start bashing, well, feel free to because I made it past douschebag's like Ed Maher and the rest of his pathetic cronies that wanted to do that all day to people way back when, hell I was bashed here before I even became a member because flyinlow posted pics of my car he got at cardomain because I put a saleen style wing and ram air 2 hood on mine, main part was because I was the first ever in the world to put cobra r's on a trans am and made them look better than they was on a mustang!
Opinions are like *******s, everyone has one, headers are always gonna be a pita, none of them will ever be "perfect" sure you might find a set that has little to no problems for the majority but somewhere someone will have a issue sooner or later. Never fails, it's part of the trade, nothing is perfect in this world, nothing.
I'd about be willing to bet if you had those issues, and as soon as you put them in if you had took pics showing Don the deal, that that man would have said send them back to me and I will take care of it, but my guess is you may have modified them or something?
Either way, bashing and talking smack will get ya nowhere and you will end up right back at the same problem you started out with only then with hurt feelings and burnt bridges just like fist fighting.
Most of us know that through experience, some may have yet to learn that, but either way we all do sooner or later.
Best regards to both parties and I hope you can find a resolution to this issue.
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I already got a resolution , this thread is old news. I told Don about the problem and he dragged his feet for a long time responding back to me. Ive had this car since 1995, and have had every set of headers on different motors you can think of. Tes, slp , stainless works and dyno dons. On my car and this is my personal experience the stainless works fit the best and are of the best quality. Dons did not fit well in my car , y pipe hit my frame. I sent him repeated emails and photos and I got very slow response and was never asked If I wanted to send then back to be swapped out until the very end of this thread when I made my problems public and at that point I had them off the car and bought stainless works long tubes. At that point I was done dealing with someone who couldnt believe that maybe a set he made was off. It was always not his work but my car or my install. Trust me my experience is far from some random opinion. Ive had so many aftermarket parts on this car in all the years Ive had it to know when somethings need a little tweak to fit or not. This isnt my first time at the rodeo. I know the world of aftermarket parts. And trust me I could care less to burn any bridges after that experience, there are plenty of capable individuals and companys that make third gen headers that Im sure I wont ever have a problem ever getting a set. After that I supported vendors that pay for their advertising here like Hawks and bought a set of headers through them. I feel if I had bought them through a paid vendor I would have been able to send them back asap when I found issues. Hey im not bashing anyone at this point , its water under the bridge now. I never got any kind of apology or anything from him, so that is my lasting impression of the guy. Obviously he makes headers alot of guys like. They seem to dyno well on the magical southern CA dynos too. It worked out for the best because I pulled the motor anyway and shorties just wernt going to cut it on my new combo. So I have no hard feelings towards don, but I would never buy anything from him again. I also feel if he is selling headers on this site he should be paying fees like everyone else. I paid him with a money order, if it was with a credit card you can bet this would have been solved alot faster. Take it for what its worth. Thats what happened and no one can dispute it. Take care
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Darren:
I'm sorry you never got the fit right on your car, but you forgot to mention you sold them to someone else and they didn't have any problems, nor have a lot of others.
Sure there were a couple of glitches down the road but they seemed to have gotten worked out. Some have motor mounts switched others with oil pan issues...it happens.
Like the man said, this is not a perfect world we live in.
I will always go out of my way to assist if they are problems.
I didn't offer to send them back because you bashed them in with hammer.
So lets move on.
I'm sorry you never got the fit right on your car, but you forgot to mention you sold them to someone else and they didn't have any problems, nor have a lot of others.
Sure there were a couple of glitches down the road but they seemed to have gotten worked out. Some have motor mounts switched others with oil pan issues...it happens.
Like the man said, this is not a perfect world we live in.
I will always go out of my way to assist if they are problems.
I didn't offer to send them back because you bashed them in with hammer.
So lets move on.