I know this post is going to get closed, but I just wanted people to know that there is a bad apple on thirdgen and I dont want others to get burned by his flames. So anyway, if any talks to Blade/Synergy or SN NrGz28 on AOL and you start talkin about chips and talking about him burn you a chip, Dont do it unelss you like to waste your money. He burned me a chip in feburary, and it ran like crap. So I talked to him and he said to send it back and he would re do it for free. Being of trust I did (after I already paid him 50 bucks) Well the chip never came back. After a few weeks I asked him and he told me it must have been lost in the mail that he would do it again for me. Well that chip never came......so I gave him an extra 20 buck to send me another chip threw UPS cuz they have a trackin number. Well it never came when he said he sent it. Now when I ask him about it, He will either sign off AOL, warn me, or ignore me. So dont do whut I did........cuz all it does is make you 70 bucks poorer and Gets under your skin. Thanks and I am sorry about the post if it has to be closed then close it justleave it up so others can read it. Thank you
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Sorry 'bout your loss. As they'd say on the PROM board, that $70 could have gotten you well on your way to programming your own chips. There is no way someone that doesn't know your car can burn you a chip that will work perfectly. It's too bad you had learn the hard way.
As for this blade/synergy/whoever, he's got some explaining to do. $50 to burn a chip is WAY too much. And another $20 to ship another. Those chips cost about a $1.75 each and shipping can't be more than a couple bucks, even UPS red. What a scam.

BTW, I'll leave this up. Hopefully it'll make others think twice.

I had a discussion with Glen about my post. What I mean is that $50 is too much to charge for a generic PROM burn. There probably is nothing custom to this chip. It wasn't made to the specifics of Popapork's combination. If it had been, then it would be worth more. Engineering time (ie program and design) is at least $50/hr, so figure from there.

[This message has been edited by RCR (edited August 27, 2001).]

 

Nope, the price is cheap...too damn cheap and you got what you paid for...nothing much.

A good eprom takes MANY HOURS of testing and research. If you want a good "custom prom" you will be looking at hundreds of dollars... and even then, they usually are not too much (except WOT). Few custom eprom writers really do anything with part-throttle, which is where you are driving 90% of the time, and what works on my engine may not work on yours.

That is why nobody burns eproms on the DIY PROM Board and if anyone asks for one (or offers to sell one), we either lock or delete the post. We know what effort it REALLY takes to burn a good eprom and for $50.00, it's just a joke.

But if you decide to get into eprom burning, you will understand the effort that goes into making a good eprom and how "individualized" each one is...even for identically spec'd engines.

PS: Eproms are more than $1.75 and then, if you have a Memcal, you just don't "pull the eprom and pop another one in". TBI cars are the only ones that still used a separate eprom and I think those still cost around $5.00.

I cannot comment on Edmond's (Blade/Synergy's real name), but you can try making a post on the DIY PROM Board about it. You may get lucky and have Tim (Traxion) or Bruce (Grumpy) give you a response, but I suspect that they will say "you get what you pay for" and then lock the thread.

 

Seems this guy is back again, so ttt.

 

I am glad that this post is re-opened as I realize that my original reply seems a bit harsh and sounds like I condone this type of practice.

While I still believe that "you get what you pay for", I also believe that if you make an agreement to do something that you MUST deliver on that promise or return the money.

I also believe that unless the "eprom burner" has an "inventory" of a BINs that work successfully on an "exact" engine, that the eprom writer really needs to have access to the car to do a good job. The biggest issue is generally part-throttle as there are enough unique differences just due to tolerances that can make one eprom that works great on one engine work not so great on another.

I think anyone looking for an eprom should consider these factors BEFORE getting ANY eprom. Ask them for references from people with a similar setup to yours and make SURE you have an agreement of what the "refund" policy is. I know that MOST of the reputable eprom burners will refund your money if they are unable to burn you an eprom that is up to your satisfaction.

In closing, I believe you are entitled to your money back based on what you have stated above - you never got a good eprom that met your satisfaction. I hope this clarifies my position and people DO NOT believe that I condone this practice (not delivering on your promise).

[This message has been edited by Glenn91L98GTA (edited August 28, 2001).]

 

Would it be possible to get the IP address of this member and ban them? I know how to do it if you are running a Cisco router. I guess the problem would be if he was on a cable system like i am. Every 3mo, my IP address changes, so it would be difficult, however, I think you can block individuals by the MAC address also. I will look into it if the moderators are interested. I have no beefs with anyone on Thirdgen! I just want to keep my fellow members safe from members out for a quick score at the expense of the honnest people!

 

I really wish the "party involved" would respond. This is one of those cases where "silence" is not the best action and just makes you look guiltier than hell.

 

I agree. Just come up with some stupid excuse or something. Say SOMETHING! How about an apology and a refund. I have been ripped off 1 time by someone on the Internet. It is not a good feeling and I am pissed to this day over it. But I know I would not be able to sleep at night if I ripped someone off like that.

 

I'm sorry but I just didnt see this post. I dont read the boards every day. I did reply to his other post where RCR chose to trash me again without even getting my side of the story. I cant believe there's another guy on here that's going to ask the moderators to BAN me. You have NO IDEA what went REALLY went on between me and Popapork. Go read my reply on the TPI board if you're really interested in what I had to say about this situation.

p.s. A refund and an apology is out of the question. He still has the initial chip which he seemed very happy about when he installed it the first time.

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I do not have the first ship. That was sent back to synergy. But what ever. I am happy with the chip I have NOW. And I would never take a nother chip from him again. So that is my piece and that is all I am going to say about it and the bad business of Synergy. If people want to do busniess with him then by all means, go ahead, You have my side and his side. The choice is yours.

 

Well, this is a simple one to solve, since the transaction took place via the net, you can file a complaint with the FBI, they look into things real close, and I'm sure the truth of the matter would come out clearly. That being said, they do seem to take a dim view to false charges also, so Popa, if you really were slighted take ten minutes and do something about it. If this was all true Syn will get a nice hard smack, a fine, and possible jail time. You can even file your complaint via the web. Imagine that.

Ok, the obvious being said, Glenn pegged it way back in this bloody post, is anyone surprised?

As far as the agreements go, verbal contracts (breach in most states has a statute of limitations of six years) do stand up in court, and many courts do take e-mail correspondence as evidence. That means you could be on the hook for a lot more than you bargained for. Your chip blew up my engine, you better believe I'll drag your *** in court. In a heartbeat. Live in another state? That's OK, I'll get a multi-jurisdictional Capias when you default. Is the picture getting clearer? Unless you are going to go into business (including a nice ins. policy) why bother with the bloody things?!? Frankly, I would never do anything over the net without a written contract or CYA letters going back and forth, but then, I see too much of this **** on a daily basis.

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Thnaks for advice...I will look into this option.

 

You sent him $$, You must have his address, give him a ring

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Cant wait for it

 

Just for the record, I am not the Blade that this guy is.... I've been here before this guy (Formerly known as NRG or something) switched to this name. Just thought that should be cleared up, as there has been confusion in the past. He seems to **** off alot of people, I don't wanna get the attitude he deserves.

Tristan

 

alright, before i say anything, wuts YOUR side of the story? or if u have it posted somewhere else, i haven't seen it, could u post a link

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His side of the story was posted on the TPI board. he agreeded to pay me the 16 dollars for the second chip and that is fine with me.

 

Go here https://www.thirdgen.org/messgboard/...ML/004082.html and enjoy.