Anyone use either of these? Likes, dislikes, opinions? Considering one for my EFI conversion, with an Edelbrock Victor, and naturally a larger solid roller.

eBay Motors: NEW Accel DFI Billet Throttle body, 1550 CFM (item 8062644762 end time Jul-02-06 19:41:48 PDT)

eBay Motors: NEW Accel DFI Billet Throttle body, 1200 CFM (item 8044936773 end time Jul-05-06 06:56:59 PDT)

Thanks!

 

Ditching your Super Ram?

 

I have a 1200cfm and it's a very nice piece. I used to have a Mini Ram, I picked up 5 mph when I switched to the accel pro-ram intake and dropped 3 tenths. The part throttle cruise is awesome, it takes less throttle % while cruising as well. You'll like it and I think it's one of the best throttle bodies for single plane EFI on the market.

 

Eventually, YES. It just did not make sense to put a ton of porting into it, and still not be optimum for me. My S/R is unported, but it was welded, and then modified on a Bridgeport, so the runners would match up to the Track 1s. Yes, Vern, its time to turn up the flame a bit. Thats really the only reason though. I know you have had issues with yours, and alot of members on here hate working on them, but, that never really bothered me.

 

Yes, thanks for the input. I was looking at the 1200 as well.Even though I have a 436, the other one might be a bit overkill IMO. But then again, I suppose I can get away with it, as I have to retune the eprom over again anyway. The current 58 mm, IIRC, flows 1000 cfm, but, thats an inefficient 1000, IMO. With the air entry on the S/R, and all the bends and turns the air makes before actually getting to the cylinders, a 1000cfm body, on a single 4 bbl intake would be better than what I have now. I can ditch the CAI too. Hood clearance is not a concern on my car, as there is plenty of room under the Harwood cowl.

 

Hate to see ya "go", but I totally understand! Plus, I've been doing some testing on my problem and think it's resolved about as far as I can take it....

 

I'm running a 1000 cfm Accel unit that looks similar to the 1200 pictured. It works great, and a nice thing is that the linkage sits up higher than other TB's giving more clearance above the fuel rail. I would make sure the linkage is progressive, mine wasn't and it was undriveable until I fixed it.

 

Thanks Lotec. It says in the ad "Staged progressive linkage guarantees unparalled drivability", so I guess its all good. Do you have any pics of your setup? I was planning on using the rails that are supposed to go with the Edelbrock Victor E. IIRC, someone said they did not like them, I just dont remember who it was though. Something about the way they fasten to the intake. I just hope the T/B does not interfere with them. Im glad you posted that the T/B sits higher, so, hopefully the Edelbrock rails will fit with it.

 

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/atta...g?d=1144200026

Accel pro-ram setup intake and rails.

The bottom of the linkage is at about the same height as the base of the TB.

 

Thats a nice setup you have there. Did you have to modify the throttle cable bracket? It looks like you bent it a bit to get WOT.

 

Thanks! It's a holley bracket for their commander MPFI that I bent/modified a little to work with the accel TB and the stock throttle cable.

 

Check out the pic of my 1200cfm TB with a 1" phenolic spacer I just put on at my website on page 5. You can see the the progressive linkage very well. I have yet to hit the track. The last time out I ran a 11.97@ 116 mph with a 1.80 60ft and I was shifting at 6200rpm. The next time I'll shift 1-2 @ 7000rpm and 2-3 @ 6800 because of the large drop in gear from 1st to 2nd. With this new set up, my rotating assembly can handle the rpm's because it's built to rev.

 

ZZ17, do you have a link to your site? I'd like to see it. With your MPH, you should be running mid to low 11s. What kind of tires are you using? Its all hiding in your 60', I'll bet.

 

Here's the link to my site. 1988 Chevrolet Camaro - craig's Chevrolet "The Beast"

I know it should be in the low to mid 11's. The track was preped really bad. They didn't scrape last seasons rubber off the pad and sprayed VHT over top of it, so we had chuncks of rubber all over the place. Even the big boys had traction issues. By the way I'm using a set of M/T 26 x 10.5-15LT, part # MTT-3752 and all my runs where made at 13 psi. I was thinking of going to a set of 26 x 10.0-15 Hoosier drag slick, part # HOO-18130. The car is so fun to drive and it has alot of power.

 

I hear ya, mine is alot of fun too. Nice pics of the T/B BTW. What was the differences in the times from the MR, to the ProRam?


Edit,
Sorry, i just reread your post, and saw you have yet to hit the track...But Thanks anyway.

 

Yes, I did hit the track after the swap in April as soon as the track opened. And like I said the "track was crap". I haven't hit the track since I installed the spacer.

Here is the time slip:

1.8040-----60 FT
7.1717-----594 FT
7.6639-----1/8 ET
92.59------MPH
11.9770----1/4 ET
116.69-----MPH

 

Oh, the spacer. Like I said, I read it wrong...LOL!

 

Thanks for all of your replies, everyone. I got the 1200 cfm. Its on its way. Now, I will probably wait a few weeks before I buy the manifold, and fuel rails. The T/B, was the big dollar item, as I wanted to get that out of the way first. I do not want the car down while its the summer, so I will be doing this conversion, along with the cam change, in the fall.

 

That's good to hear. I hope your getting the pro-ram intake? I ported mine myself, you can't go wrong.

 

I was looking at the Edelbrock Victor E. It has the bungs just as the ProRam does. Not totally sure as of yet though. Still looking around. I wanted to stay away from installing bungs myself. BTW, the 1200 cfm is on backorder from Accel. I will be recieving the 1350 cfm for the same price.

 

Sweet!!! I just looked up the accel intake @ summit and it's on back order again until July 10th. Man that intake never stays in stock. I'll be hitting the track this saturday.

 

I just wanted to post a pic, or two of the new T/B. Took the 1350 cfm T/B, as the 1200 is on back order. Next on the list will be the manifold, then the new solid roller cam. I just love when the UPS guy comes up to my door.....

 

Looking good man!

 

Sexy. I'm gonna miss having a singleplane efi setup.

-- Joe

 

Thanks Joe, and zz17. The whole reason I'm doing this, is the S/R on my 436 is a restriction. Kpas drop at WOT. Cant seem to nudge a MPH higher than 118. I believe that the 114* lsa is contributing as well. If I ever thought I would be doing my own tuning, I would have installed the right cam in the first place. No reason I should not be running 10s, at 120+, with a 436.

 

Well, I finally got the intake. first, I must say thanks to Joe, (anesthes), for the info he had given me on the Victor EFI manifold. Thanks Lo-tec, and zz17, as well. After ordering the Victor EFI, and getting a good look at it, at the speed shop, I decided not to buy it. The manifold looks real sweet, but, the way the rails mount up, I do not care for. They kind of snap into place, with these cheap clamps. So, with that said, I ordered up a Super Victor instead. I will have the bungs, and rails fabbed up on this one instead. I already contacted Intake Elbows.com, to get the pricing, and info, on the conversion. Now, I will be carefully choosing a new solid roller for my new set up. Here are a few pics I took of the manifold, and T/B.

 

Wow Tom,
Had no isea you had all these big plans going on - can't wait to see results!
I have had a 1000 cfm progressive throttlebody sitting around, and been wanting to try a single plane converted of VR.EFI as well - but its a lot for me to spring and possibly lose..
Besides I don't think the 1000cfm will do me much good..
I would really like to get ahold of a monoblade for the M/R.. I'm probably going to sell the 1000 - If you wish Ill let you throw it on, but doubt it will do much for you either.

So what do you want an elbow for?

 

Yes, Tom, these are my plans for this winter, after I put the car away, for the mods. I'm just going to pull the engine right out. I have a big dent on my oil pan I would like to pound out a little better. Sooo, while its out, the new cam will go in then. I need a base cut cam, for clearance reasons. I've been thinking about a single pattern solid roller with 600+ lift, and about 260/260 @.050, on a 112* LSA. Should work well with the 1350 T/B, and the Super Vic. Just waiting to send the intake out, to get the bungs welded in, along with new fuel rails as well. Then, I'll just have to re-tune the whole thing over again. Hood clearance will not be an issue, as the cowl hood should be tall enough. I plan on using a Moroso pan, like in the pic, and I will modify it to pick up air from the cowl.

 

BTW, Tom, I saw your TB on Ebay. Did you get rid of it?

 

Old thread I know, but do you have an update thread? I'd like to see how it turned out.

 

Yea, its on and it runs pretty strong. Big difference from the SR, as the low end TQ is less, but the in the higher RPMs it really pulls. Have not had a chance to hit the track , due to personal stuff going on. Hood clearance is not a big issue, even with the spacer below the TB. Ill get some pics up when I get a chance, and HOPEFULLY will hit the track real soon!

 

So I was just reading over this thread again and guess what, Summit has the 1350cfm on backorder now but they have the 1200cfm in stock. Patience has never been my stong point, I'm half tempted to buy the 1200, but I don't want to regret it later on. I'll be feeding 385 cubes and redlining around 6500ish.

 

The 1200 should be more than enough!!

 

Like less than an hour after I posted that I ended up buying the 1,200 and the manifold.