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Old May 12, 2002 | 07:50 PM
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SVT SPoiler

My friend just got a SVT spoiler off of a SVT mustang, It looks like a 2000 or something, he said that there were only like 300 made or something but i have no clue. DO u think it would look right on my car? he said he would sell it to me for 200 so i figured that i would ask you guy before i get it? thanks
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Old May 12, 2002 | 08:42 PM
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no

sorry but, camaros and mustangs don't mix very well at all.
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Old May 12, 2002 | 10:09 PM
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Only 300? You mean the Cobra R wing? Its kind of hard to believe he got one of those. Not sure what that would look like on a third gen.
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Old May 12, 2002 | 10:42 PM
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svt wing

what do you mean mustangs and third gen's don't mix? iv'e got cobra r mustang rims on my 89 ta and they look better than most of the rims iv'e ever seen!! to be truthful i wanted to put a saleen wing on it but it would'nt work!!! so that being said, if you like it dude go for it!!!
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Old May 12, 2002 | 10:58 PM
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I like the Cobra r wheels. Also as far as them not mixing, my buddy's 88 Mustang GT has a spoiler and GFX that are almost the same as my Z28.
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Old May 13, 2002 | 09:30 AM
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If you want a mustang, buy a mustang not a camaro and turn it into a mustang!
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Old May 13, 2002 | 10:11 AM
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you guys are ALWAYS putting firebird stuff on camaros and camaro stuff on firebirds...i don't get it, i don't agree with it, but that is hypocritical if that is how you spell it, Let him do what he wants...i don't see y it is your problem. you people are way to conservative.
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Old May 13, 2002 | 10:12 AM
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Let's see a photoshop of the wing on a Camaro. Before I see it, I can't say... As far as crossbreeding, I think it CAN work. Zepher's T/A and deadbird's Formula have Camaro parts and looks great, Steve Scauffiel's has 4th gen parts on it, BadGTA has Mustang parts on it... All these cars look great and that's just to name a few. Appearance mods are a matter of taste, though. However, by putting on a Mustang spoiler/wing, I don't think he's trying to turn his Camaro into a Mustang! It's just a subtle mod to look different. Most people won't even be able to tell it's a Mustang wing; they'll just think: Cool wing! Just my two cents.
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Old May 13, 2002 | 10:48 AM
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nothing wrong with sharing parts between cars. What about the Ford 9". Also ford injectors are cheaper than GMs but work good too.

I think the camaros and firebirds sharing parts has produced some good results and as well as sharing between generations.

Cars are cars. We put too much value on a name or brand...
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Old May 13, 2002 | 11:15 AM
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If you want a mustang, buy a mustang not a camaro and turn it into a mustang!
I agree totally. And the reason people swap firebird and camaro stuff is because they are basically the same car when it comes to internal stuff. I personally don't think SS hoods look good on Firebirds and I think Ram Air hoods on Camaros look silly. When it comes to exterior stuff, stick to firebird things or aftermarket stuff for firebirds. Don't throw camaro rims on a firebird or firebird rims on a camaro. I don't think that looks good at all and any car person knows "whats camaro stuff doing on that firebird?" and vice versa. This is my personal opinion though, not an offical one, so do what you want. But I think swapping mustang parts on fbody parts is just about as stuipd as that guy who put that mustand decal on his Camaro's back winsheild.
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Old May 13, 2002 | 09:10 PM
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Hmmm, pic is too large to post I think.[IMG]C:/Program Files/America Online 7.0/Download/Stangs/Redcoupe.bmp[IMG]

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Old May 13, 2002 | 10:28 PM
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Originally posted by Brett Gutshall
Lets see if this works (my first attempt at posting a picture). Anyways, I know this doesn't answer your question, but this dude had the ***** to put a Z28 Wing on a stang, and though I don't like the wheels, the rest of the car is sweet I think. So what I'm saying is if you think it looks good go for it. Since your friend has it, why not borrow it and sorta test fit it on there and see what you think. Lots of people here will tell you not to do it because its not "original" enough, then they all complain when you do something else that it is just like everyone else. If you think it looks good, do it. If a camaro wing looks good on a stang, then why wouldn't a stang wing look good on a camaro. Go for it and do what makes you happy. Ok, I'm done now.
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Old May 13, 2002 | 10:41 PM
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is this the wing your talking about, if so I like, and about swapping parts what about everyone with the Ram Air II hood from Cervinis, thats the same hood that started on the Mach Mustangs.

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Old May 13, 2002 | 11:48 PM
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Excuse me but I got to PUKE!!!!!!!!!! BLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH
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Old May 14, 2002 | 05:57 PM
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yas, thats the wing i was talking about, now after looking at that picture over and over, i think it is ugly and would look like crap on a camaro
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Old May 15, 2002 | 01:39 AM
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as far as i remember, the Pontiacs were using "ram-air" on the 400 equipped cars before there even was a Mach rustang
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Old May 15, 2002 | 02:40 AM
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I saw a '91-'92 Z28 spoiler on a 5.0 Mustang convertable. The owner wanted a Cobra style spoiler (which looked very much like the Z28 high rise spoiler on 5Liter 'Stangs) but the factory piece was designed to blend into the hatch. (see pic below)



So the owner got a Camaro spoiler and put it on. He said it fit perfectly with no modifications, like it was made for his car. Looked pretty cool also.
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Old May 15, 2002 | 04:12 PM
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Why would anybody think that rustang looks like a sports car, they are so ugly and blocky. Give me a break, I think my old 85 Chrysler 5th ave looks more sporty. Man Ford Sucks A$$ so much.
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Old May 15, 2002 | 05:25 PM
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hey there maverick544 as far as stangs not looking sporty because they are boxy then ur and idiot because i hate to breack it to ya but 3rd gen camaros are very boxy and thats one of the reasons i like them so much. im not trying to start a war but IMO lines on a car are what makes that car different. like the lines of a 65 stang or a 69 camaro. if a car doesnt have anylines then it starts to make the car look like everyother car out there. kinda like its so hard to tell all the rice cars apart like the del sols, civics, preludes, mistibishi, eagle, cavilers and everything else oce u get body kits on them. a cars lines are what make a car stand out and be differnt. jsut my .02.

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and about the wing, i wouldnt do it to my car if i had one cause i think it looks way to rice.
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Old May 15, 2002 | 05:53 PM
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Looks like a Cobra wing from '93, not a 91-92 camaro one.
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Old May 15, 2002 | 09:44 PM
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Hmmm...suprised this isnt locked yet.
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Old May 16, 2002 | 02:55 AM
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What I meant when YOu look at a thirdgen, firebird or camaro you think of a sports car. When you look at those 80's rustangs you think of what kind of pos is that. So dont get in my face lank, I mean no harm. And just becase you say IMO or thats my on .02 at the end of every rude comment or insult, doesn't make it polite, remember that. Besisds the moderators going to look this in about 30 seconds most likly.
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Old May 16, 2002 | 03:03 AM
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Thunderbird Fan

I use the radiator fan from a 92 thunderbird SC because it provides better cooling than the dual fan setup. Ask me about this in person and I will deny using any ford parts in my IROC. Body parts are a different story though. Third gen camaro's are inherently beautiful. I can see little desireable from Pusstangs along the lines of body parts. ( I can understand where your coming from though, jack **** is made aftermarket for third gens and it sux ) . Basically, don't be a slacker, buy that wing off the guy, and sell it on ebay for a left nut or 2. Then put the money towards something functional .
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Old May 16, 2002 | 03:34 AM
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Old May 16, 2002 | 11:04 PM
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Amen bratha!:hail:
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Old May 17, 2002 | 01:17 PM
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I agree

I agree on the mustangs lookiong boxy....

Firebirds have curves, and are long and lean, and sexy like
a bitch!

they have a pointy front end just like agirls nipples, thin waist, and nice butt with 2 holes (3 inch exhaust holes) :sillylol:

anyways... Mustangs are rectangular... and look like a forD EXP
they are sedan like instead of sports car-ish...

this is just my opinion.. so don't flame me./. if you disagree
then.... you disagree, just reply saying.."You think what ya want Bluebird, but I disagree" and that's plenty fine.... but if you agree.... then Just do this..
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Old May 17, 2002 | 01:30 PM
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Re: svt wing

Originally posted by badgta
what do you mean mustangs and third gen's don't mix? iv'e got cobra r mustang rims on my 89 ta and they look better than most of the rims iv'e ever seen!! to be truthful i wanted to put a saleen wing on it but it would'nt work!!! so that being said, if you like it dude go for it!!!


is that an aftermarket model specifically for the thirdgen bolt pattern or did the actual cobra wheel bolt right on?
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Old May 18, 2002 | 08:50 AM
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Hey, Bluebird!

However, foxbodies can kick most of our *****. With the exception of the few on here who have stroked 383s and other worked engines, the lightweight stangs can whoop us in a straight line. Everytime I go out for a dollar movie in Lawrenceville some Mustang challenges me to a race on Scenic Hwy 124! My poor little LG4 just can't keep up, but I bet they feel good when they beat me... because our cars just LOOK so much faster than theirs!

I don't mean to disrespect our cars by saying they're slow, but they are the most fun you can have for about $3K, and if you have more money, you can swap in a 405hp LS1 and a Vortec and school everyone! However looks-wise, even 4th gens don't have anything on us, in my opinion.
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Old May 18, 2002 | 10:00 AM
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Agree!

I agree with everything you say
95%!!

the 5% is just the exception of having
to have the 383 stroker, I think the L98
was a good performer that was put
into several of our cars and, ,the L98
with just a couple bolt ons will all but the modded 80's-90's mustangs.....

Infact, the 305 TPI with 1LE will woop most stangs too!!
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Old May 19, 2002 | 09:44 PM
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Old May 20, 2002 | 01:46 PM
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I agree that the L98 rules, but even with all of TPIS's mods like the Big Mouth lower intake, high flow runners, ported plenum, and 24# injectors, as well as a free flowing 3" exhaust, I only calculate 315hp or so... a new Camaro SS or Trans Am Ram Air has 320hp and, according to tests by car magazines, it's apparently underrated b/c they measure 320 at the rear wheels! So unless you're stickin' a supercharger onto that L98, I don't think it can keep up with a new F-body (which competes with the new stangs). However, you're saying the L98 and LB9 cars can whoop the 80s foxbody stangs and that's probably true... it's just new Mustangs that I don't think we can hang with.

We can still out handle any 'Stang, though! I heard our chasis was designed even better than the 4th gens for handling purposes! That's awesome!!!
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Old May 20, 2002 | 09:37 PM
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I only calculate 315hp or so... a new Camaro SS or Trans Am Ram Air has 320hp and, according to tests by car magazines, it's apparently underrated b/c they measure 320 at the rear wheels! So unless you're stickin' a supercharger onto that L98, I don't think it can keep up with a new F-body (which competes with the new stangs).
You need to quit magazine racing and go to the actual track and watch. Most LS1 owners that have stock LS1's can only run a mid to low 13 because of traction. Don't trust the magazines, go out to the track and see the real deal happening. You will get ur true anwser out there.
it's just new Mustangs that I don't think we can hang with
If you speaking of the 93-present mustangs (not the 2003) then your mistaken, there ridiculously slow stock espically the earlier ones. They run a low 14 at best stock. Dont beilive me, go to the track and look for urself. You would be amazed how much better the LS1 is then the Cobra and espically the GT. And I see no problem with the L98 keeping up with a Mustang with a few bolt ons. Supercharger? If your running a blown L98 then you would whomp on any stock LS1 or Cobra EASILY. I think your underestimating the L98 a lot. You need to go to the track and see for yourself.
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Old May 20, 2002 | 09:53 PM
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Old May 20, 2002 | 10:36 PM
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Originally posted by Chris87TA350


We can still out handle any 'Stang, though! I heard our chasis was designed even better than the 4th gens for handling purposes! That's awesome!!!
~Chris
That was true until 1999. Not third gen can out handle a 99+ Cobra with its IRS. And even if it could the Cobra would still win with the power going out of the turns. Not starting anything just throwing out facts. And yes I also heard that the 3rd gens handle better than the 4th gens. But then again I think they are lighter, wider, and sit lower.
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Old May 20, 2002 | 10:38 PM
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Originally posted by 91Bird305

You need to quit magazine racing and go to the actual track and watch. Most LS1 owners that have stock LS1's can only run a mid to low 13 because of traction. Don't trust the magazines, go out to the track and see the real deal happening. You will get ur true anwser out there.

Best stock LS1 I have ever seen run was a 13.4. Most of the time I see them running 13.7 and I heard of some running low 14s in higher places. I guess you have to know how to drive them cause the power seems to be there.
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Old May 20, 2002 | 10:42 PM
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Originally posted by maverick544
What I meant when YOu look at a thirdgen, firebird or camaro you think of a sports car. When you look at those 80's rustangs you think of what kind of pos is that. So dont get in my face lank, I mean no harm. And just becase you say IMO or thats my on .02 at the end of every rude comment or insult, doesn't make it polite, remember that. Besisds the moderators going to look this in about 30 seconds most likly.
WTF???? You tell him "And just becase you say IMO or thats my on .02 at the end of every rude comment or insult, doesn't make it polite" and then you say "What I meant when YOu look at a thirdgen, firebird or camaro you think of a sports car. When you look at those 80's rustangs you think of what kind of pos is that." That is an opinion and a rude one at that.
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Old May 20, 2002 | 11:40 PM
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I dont know why the look of the car plays such an important role in it being classified as a 'sports cars.' I mean look at some of the older european sportscars .. bmw's mercedes, MG's ... those are pretty boxy compared to our cars. Does that not make them sports cars?
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Old May 21, 2002 | 03:00 PM
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Yeah, I've NEVER been to the dragstrip, so I'm a bit out of touch with the "real world," (I only do stoplight racing on 124, lol) but I think the driver's skill may play a part. You're absolutely right, I'm a "magazine racer," and absolutely feed on the little trivia facts Road and Track or whatever puts out. The ZO6 Vette, for example is supposed to be able to run a 12.4 second 1/4 mile stock, which is amazing! I know we can too, but we'd have to have bolt ons up the wazzoo and awesome traction. On another note, not to flame you, but if you have to use a supercharger (or nitrous for that matter) to beat a normally aspirated car, I feel like that's cheating a bit. It's like a crutch for a slow(er) car, isn't it? Or do you go by Vin Diesel's F&F philosophy: "It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile... winning's winning! You almost had me...?" That's true too. If they're too dumb to not hear the supercharger under your hood and still think your car's stock, it's their own fault, huh? Anyway, later guys! Sorry for the lengthiness... ~Chris
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Old May 21, 2002 | 05:41 PM
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racing consists of lots of factors, like everyone has said the driver, a big one is the weather I dont care what you drive, if its a 95 degree day, it isnt going to run like it does when its 70, and most of all it is where you live. Factors like elevation, have a huge factor on racing. As for L98s and mustangs, a l98 in a camaro or bird is equal on 1/4 times to a notchback mustang, acording to the magazines, there supose to run 14.8, but every motor is different, no matter what you do. You can buy two ls1s at the same time and one might be 2 tenths faster than the other, just cause they cant be perfectly the same. As for the newer mustangs, ford didnt get with the program until they redid the mustangs I think in 99, because ive driven a 94 5.0 and a 97 4.6 and there both far from impresive motors they dont pull at all past 3500 rpms, I dont think the 5.0 could pull a 14 second pass off stock, and the 97 would be lucky. Cobras are more respectable, my budy has one and he runs 14.2s all day, but for the price, it isnt worth it in mind.
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