...and just for grins...

Steve

 

 

weres the before pic so we know what you did?

 

Sorry, didn't think it'd be needed...

S.

EDIT: Friggin SUBMIT button!!

 

Okay then.

 

amazingly I dont think it actually looks that bad

 

I like it.

 

ever hear of a thing called Ground Clearance?

its already pretty bad on our cars, i dont think it needs to be any worse




looks ok though

 

I don't like it. Your car looks killer already, why f*ck with it?

 

yeah.. Look under the front bumper and check out the scrapes.. i give you about 1 second of not thinking and you would have that sucker cracked, scraped, bumped and bruised in no time

 

Actually, thats not bad. But like the guys said about scraping... yeah. It already looks good though, even primered, can't wait to see it w. paint!

You know what though, I've never seen that hood on a 91-92 bird yet but I really want to. Anybody got a pic of that? I've got 100s of car pic yet never seen one of that before.

 

Well there was a guy on this board about a year ago that had a 91 with that hood. He had some horror story about the shop not fitting the hood right, see the nice corners? Other than that, it looks ok.

 

ya know some people think that hood flows so much better on that car. personally I think its HIDEOUS, on mine the nostrils line up with the raised area of the front bumper cover between the headlights like it was designed for it, it flows nicely, there is NOTHING that the contours of that hood match on that car, it sticks up out of no where. rite?

 

I actually don't think it looks too bad... but you'd scrape everywhere with that.

 

it doesn't look bad.

as far as the r/a 2 hood, for some reason the lines of the ram air area just don't appear to flow well on the thirdgens to me.

i dunno. a neat concept though, steve.

 

83T/A Dave, that's a formula, not a firebird. Really, it has a much different effect with gfx.

Steve, don't do that. Leave it alone! Looks great as is.

 

Well, it prolly would scrape pretty bad, but still it wouldn't be lower than my air dam... But it would stick out further so it would scrape more; oh well. Two more pix for ya; one from the side as I envision it and another one with the rear bumper trimmed off like the new Corvette's - I believe someone asked recently about this...

 

Corvette rear - I dunno if I like this. I'd have to do some more photoshopping first...

S.

 

I really like the vette rear!

 

I think it looks okay... I have never had a problem with the large gfx, its just all the silly styling and vents and spotlights the size of my head. Not sure what I think about the vette look. I saw the corvette rear graffed onto the back on a camaro and I dont think it fits.

Sweet bird by the way...

 

I like the Vette rear one... I don't think I like the second pic though... looks too square I suppose. How about some paint instead

 

i agree with 86FyrBrd that that hood doesn't go with that car at all. the ascd ram air hood goes perfectly with that body style. the ram air ii hood belongs on a car like 86FyrBrd's. I really like that chopped rear though, wonder how it would look from the back

 

heheheh........heres one.

 

PAINT YOUR *** DAMN CAR!

 

slammed
dude,

that last post of you car slammed was sick!!! i wanna do that to my iroc....well i will be doing when i get my ground controls and slice off two coils!!(hehe)

but if you could really do those things to your bird...GO FOR IT!!

btw nice hood on your car man, suits it nicely!!

iroc2nv

 

Doesn't look bad, Steve. Of course, I say that knowing you won't actually go through with it... right? Also, it's interesting you mentioned it's as low as your air dam b/c wouldn't it block the air going into your air damn? Is that what the small notch cut in the ground effects is for? Can't say I like the Vette rear; looks like the butt of the car was chopped off. On the hood issue, I was one of those who thought the hood would look better on a 91-2, but now after seeing it, I take it back. The nose makes the car look less mean somehow and smaller. The nostrils are simply too big. I also agree with 86Fyrbird about the vents integrating perfectly with the earlier notches in the nose. Love it when you post, Steve, so I can see more pictures of your beautiful car! More please!!!
~Chris

 

I don't get it, maybe I just never got into the fad or whatever, but why in the hell would you WANT your car that low????? I just don't get it, it looks rediculous. Whats the point? If you want your car to hit the ground, take the wheels off.... I dunno, I just really wanna know how this appeals to people. ALWAYS wondered, and now I can ask

Adam

 

Send a *** damned check! (There's two "F"'s in Cauffiel)

Well, who knows? This is why my car is still primer gray - because I'm not finished with it yet. I still have one or two ideas I want to expand on before final prep and paint. Yeah, the notch is there to allow air underneath.

Look, don't waste your time trying to intellectualize WHY someone would do something. If it doesn't appeal to you, so what? It appeals to someone else; get over it. That's like me saying "I think black accents on a white car are ghey. Especially black non-functional hood louvers or headlight blackouts. It looks rediculous, what's the point?" The picture up above IS a tad out of control as far as lowering; completely unrealistic, but again, so what. It's not hurting you so let go... just let go.

The entire reason I'd opt to "lower" my ground effects via fiberglass is due to the fact that my extra quart deep oil pan is already only four inches from the deck. I'd love to drop the body another two inches over the wheel well, but I can't.

Steve

 

:hail: :hail: :hail: scauffiel:hail: :hail: :hail:

 

:hail: Way cool I like em all

 

If someone would be able to produce a lower front fascia like that, and matching gfx all around, i'd be interested...so, yea....I LIKEY :hail:

 

I quote somebody here " Don't Judge a car by its primer "

 

well last time I checked a formula WAS a firebird. :P

I posted that picture of a "91 firebird formula" because HrdRockA4305 said he wanted to see a 91-92 'bird with that hood and he also didn't state if he wanted to see a T/A, formula, base model or base model with GFX.

 

oh, if you want I could edit the rear spoiler and then it would look like a base model with that hood

... or we could just pretend it's a base model with different wheels and spoiler!

 

Looks good Steve. Do the nose thing
They do make a kit that extend the ground effects 2" longer than stock already. Never seen anybody get them though.

 

Yea, I know, lol. But the deal is that a 91/92 firebird does not look like a formula. It has a different the front clip like the T/A and the aero gfx package. I have never seen a base model 91/92 bird without them. (Excluding the ones that were removed). That picture of the black formie has been posted several times before on various other posts. It's also a awful hood that looks pretty bad because it doesn't fit right in the front.

No matter, thanks for the pic regardless.

BTW, there is a pic of a T/A with that hood over on the Body & Interior board. Well, at least the front half of it anyways. So I guess we are all still waiting for good pictures of that hood and on GTAuto's notchback on something other than a camaro, lol.

 

FYI 91-92 base firebirds could be ordered with or WITHOUT GFX, Just letting you know (my bro had a '91 base firebird without GFX)

... so the only diff in appearance between a base without gfx and formie would be the wheels, hood and spoiler.

 

Lol, I was just joking. If you haven't noticed... I write that everytime I see one of your posts.

BTW, how long has your car been primered for... seems like forever...

 

I know brother, I'm just busting your chops too. Of course, don't let that stop you from stroking a check. It's been in primer for two years this September; and honestly, it doesn't bother me. I like being able to go out and screw around with fiberglass at will, then bust out the ole rattle can to cover it up. I should have some more photoshop "mod" pix coming up in the next couple of weeks. It's a shame it's so friggin hot around here during the summer, I really hate sweating through my clothes from sun up to sun down.

S.

 

It looks just like a gfx kit called TA Vision 2000 Plus. Claims to drop the gfx 2.5"

 

and the rear shot.
So overall I say NASCAR ish

 

i had a '92 BASE Firebird w/o the aero package,
and i had a 91 Firebird with the aero package
so 83 TADave was very correct.....a formula is just a firebird with the TA/GTA drivetrain and different hood,spoiler, and rims

 

Hey, Steve, here's a variation on your gfx idea. Sorry about the poor quality of the pic; I don't have photoshop so I just copied your picture into paint and drew on it, then it was too big, so I cut it down to half size and lost all the detail... I just made holes to vent air into the front and lotsa vents on the sides and extended the sides out to cover the wheels more (no longer straight down but skirted out sorta). Whaddaya think?
~Chris

 

Ok, I love your car scauffiel, any way you do it its gonna look good. My question about the slammed look was pretty legit, seeing as how your asking people weather or not you car looks "Rice'ish" or not. Why can't I ask a question either? If you had asked or said to me "Your white car with black accents looks stupid" Or asked me "What the purpose of my non-functional hood loovers were, whats the point in having them?" you wouldn't have offended me at all. I do have a problem with non functional hood loovers, if they represent some to of performance mod they should at least do it. As for criticizing my color scheme, its really makes no difference to me what's thought about it, for the same reason that your stating... its my car.... I do what I want to it. To justify the loovers however, I like the idea of somthing other than a plain hood, that turns my crank. I didn't assault your character, deface your car, or ask anything that I thought was out of line, I see 'Rice' down here that actually sits that low, it IS rediculous and I just wanted to know why or what the reasoning behind it is, I would think that you would have to have some reason for doing somthing, even if its just because you think it looks cool, thats justification enough. Though perhaps there was somthing I was missing out on, some performance gain, maybe somthing I just didn't know about the 'Slamming' process, and maybe if there was someone would have told me. It was a freindly question asked a bit harshly. But theres no need to get angry with me. I didn't have my muscles in a knot and I wasn't upset as you can tell by the end of the conversation, I've no need to let it go, I never 'had' it in the first place.

BTW the first pic of your car is extremely cool looking, it'd sure as hell catch my eye driving down the street. What color do you plan on painting it when you finish?

Like so many other people said, I love looking at your car

Adam

P.S. - Not looking for any hard feelings with you, that'd just be pointless.