I just wanted to know if anyone has done any modifications besides wheels and hoods to make thier Camaro or Firebird look different and original, even if it means it being "*****," ugly, etc?

 

redraif has a sweet car with lots of cool stuff... Iroc2nv has a different front clip than anyone on the boards... and REVLIMIT has a different car that I like... just needs some touchups on his front end... but if ur lookin for somethin else.. well..
i put 2 red doors on my dark blue camaro

 

Well, I have not done it yet, but it is my intent in the near future to have my doors lamborghini'd (scissor style). I've never seen a thirdgen let alone many cars at all that are scissored. Should look sweet.

 

i wouldn't mind slappin a v8 in a fiero and scissorin the doors, hellllllllllllllllllllll yeah. and belive me i dare to be different, i just don't have the money to actually BE different

 

There's a fine line between different and rice, remember that.

 

True, but that doesn't mean you can't cross it. The three members mentioned above have received more attention as of late, and all I can say is that I wish I had that kind of attention payed to my ride. If one of them lined up at a stoplight next to a Honda, who would you be rootin' for? Were all on the same team, even if they chose to do thing differently. I admit I don't care for it either, but I admire and respect it.

As for being different, I'd still like to see a camaro with a LS1 style SS hood, NOT the LT1 style. NO ONE, as of yet, has done that!!!

 

With t-tops? Hows that gonna work?

 

If the Honda was stock lookin but fast, I would root for the Honda.

 

I thought about having scissor doors two, but at that modification cost at least $4000 and can make the doors weigh up to 250 pounds. Thats a little too much weight for my 6 banger. I agree that it would be an awsome look to have.

 

Scissor doors, not gull wing doors like a delorean.

 

Best mod yet.

 

4000? buy a mig welder and save some cash, DIY lambo mods baby, lol. one day when i get a fiero.......

 

I found a guy locally who will do it for $1500, and it does not seem to ad an extreme amount of weight. Mainly a joint and gas shocks.




But I really won't know until I have the guy do it. The doors on that thing open oddly i'll admit, not what I am looking for ( as far as how they open), but if thats all that can be done, so be it. If he claims he cant do it.... screw him, i'll buy a $500 berlineta and got to work on that biach

 

Do you think scissored doors is "rice" ? I've never seen it done on a third gen and I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who has. I dare and intend to do it ( Im hoping to have a 12 second show car)

 

ive never seen rice with scissor doors ill tell u that.

 

Thanks for the compliment. Its funny how the bash talking about my car died down when these guys showed up. Like I said in another thread I think my public enemy # 1 status has been dropped. I so remember not being able to post a reply to anything w/o starting a whole lot of about my car. And I never asked for opinions, but out they flew. Too funny.

 

So far all I have seen is rice with scissor doors, but I think their are only a few in existence so far. Heres a ***** with scissor doors

http://www.angelfire.com/de2/randsku...issordoor.html

 

Yes you can dare to be different but the only thing you'll get from 95% of the people on this website is insults, insults, and more insults. In fact some of them even get so flustered they make photoshopped images to bash you. The most frusturating part of it all is even if you dont care about what they think or do (like most people who do original stuff), their immature behavior will usually get any good thread locked so the topic can no longer be discussed. For instance, as soon as all the haters find this thread, someone is bound to post pics of cars in question, and then the cycle will start. I think Azure summed it up best:

Another great perk of doing original mods is that if you put the car in your sig, every post you reply to from then on will cause people insult your car for no reason (even though it has nothing to do with the original thread), and then you will have that thread locked.

Yes dare to be different but dont show any of the people around here what you've done because they cant handle it. In fact, dont even put a pic of the car up or have it in your sig. That was the advice given to me on the matter.

 

Redraif...i don't think your car looks like rice. When I think rice, I think of a car that looks like all the "in" cars right now, which happens to be imports aka rice". I think your mods/look are pretty original...at least no ricers around here look like that. (maybe a few mods like yours)...but not too many. Iroc2nv and Revlimit are pretty "*****" as the term seems to be ( g.o.d, I hate that term) and I don't care for it, but I mean really, it doesn't make me mad...or hostile...and I'd root for any thirdgen over an import. Mark, I think you would too . They both seem more knowledgable than a lot of people on this board.

As far as the Eclipse with scissor doors is concerned, that is true worksmanship and I applaud the effort even if it's not my style. That guy has more time and effort in that car... More time than most of us put in...even if we won't admit it. If it was mine, I'd sell it and put the money in my Iroc.

 

My advice omnipotentgoku, is to contact K1 Styling (the guys who make the kit car in the pics you posted) and see if you can purchase just the parts needed for the scissor doors on their EVO II. I know it will work on regular 3rd gen doors with possible minor mods because the EVO II is based off the 3rd gen door frame. Then I would convert the doors to fiberglass and lexan windows to really lower the weight and lower the possibility of it ever breaking. All that would be left after that is a 4th gen door panel swap and I think you would have one badass setup!!

For an even cooler effect you could have the handles shaved and install the keyless entry poppers. Then you could walk up the the car, hit the keychain button and the door would swing up automatically!!!

 

Abubaca: Thanks. I never thought my car fit the rice criteria either. And since I mostly end up showing with imports, I have seen my fair share of real "rice".

CrazyHawaiian: You just described my dream doors. I have been pining for this mod for years. One day... It would be really easy to shave the handles on a fiberglass door.

Though it was not too bad to shave my steel doors. Just a ton of slow welding, nice and easy. The worst was the gas filler. Darn steel metal tried to warp on us. I about had a heart attack. Man you pull out the welder and there is no going back.

 

I already contacted them an literally all he said was "sorry cant do it" . I contacted one of the statside vendors and they had little else to say about it.

Additionally, the 4th gen door panels are already in the works and shaving the door handles will be the next natural progression on the car. It will look sweet.

 

Dang that sucks. I would think they would jump at any oppurtunity to make some money (apparently the kit car business is more lucrative than I thought). Well next best bet would be to get ahold of someone who has ordered the kit and get a copy of the assembly instructions. The kits dont come pre-assembled so my bet is that the instructions will not only give you an idea of all the parts involved but also show you how to put them together.

 

The overwhelming majority of the attention paid to those rides is negative attention. If you're the type of person that likes a ton of negative attention, then great. Go for it. Just don't mistake the looks for looks of admiration. Fat people get stared at and it sure isn't because the person staring thinks they're attractive.

 

Mine's a bit different.

S.

P.S. I just have to add I LOVE it when the weather is gorgeous out. The t-tops come off and man... talk about therapy.

 

I'll also support redraif's modifications....they're not my cup of tea, but I still applaud all the hard work that's been put into that car. Very nicely done.

 

Hopefully by the end of next year after our shop is open i will have my custom kit mad to the way i want. I am kind of going with the EVO II style kit but building it my self. All fiberglass. That is one thing i have never seen is a EVO I or II kit on this board. maybe i should just buy the kit and not try and make it. But i will be building custom ground effects and wings. maybe some fenders and 1/4 panels. oh and i will be definatly be making a brand new rear look for our cars. One of my goals is to turn a 3rd gen camaro into a 4th gen. you can do it with a firebird why now a camaro. 4th gen front clip and rear lights but different back. i have some sketches drawn out already for some of the parts i will be making. I love red's and rev's cars. people with imagination is what makes cars fun. if there was no imagination. there would be no Viper, McClairin, Lambo's or any other exotic car for that much. some sick freak out there had to come up with an idea and sucseeded. The next time you want to bash on someone for doing something different, just think your parents could of had an abortion.

 

Thanks guys! You rock! :hail:
Hey, twiztidz28: Post some of your drawings. I would be interested to see what you have come up with. You never know, you may just come up with something us modders just can't live w/o.

 

I have to get a scanner to scan them or i might be able to use my friends digital camera and take a pick or 2 over the weekend. I can tell you now they arent anything pretty to look at right now. just a rough draft. but they are different and i like them. the only thing i am going to have to work on is fastening them to the original mounting brackets. i want my car all fiberglass componets sturdy but not to heavy.

 

Quote:

If one of them lined up at a stoplight next to a Honda, who would you be rootin' for?

This...



hehe.. sorry.

~castrol

 

Please don't make this into a flame post... everyone of us dares to be original in their own way, whether it be by completely restoring a third gen to factory specs, or making it flight worthy. To each his own..

 

Who me? I would never flame.... I just always root for the underdog.

That is just me.

 

Guys come one You really gotta work on getting a definition for "Rice" cause your callin these scissor door mods *****.
Now when have you seen a ***** with that much skill?
The only people in the rice scene that get my respect are the nissan and mazda boys.
They don't go for looks they go for performance (which sometimes includes V-8 power like in my brothers RX-7)!
I agree whith mark on the sleeper honda.

 

then program it to say hello when you get in, have it ask you where you would like to go, and give it a turbo booster to allow it to jump over traffic that is in the way. buy a matching tractor trailer to drive the car out of while it is moving ................
lol it's all good in theory, and for once i like where crazy hawaiian is going here. it's not impossible(no such thing) and seems like you could keep it fairly simple by looking at that kit car's setup and borrowing i deas from it. Just hope the gas shocks you use are stronger that the ones GM used on our hatches...

 

quick thought: call the companies that make fiero kit cars such as the exotica, etc. (lambo wannabes) and see if they will sell the piece, only when calling use the line "the piece from my kit has broken do to a bad weld i made, i need to order another" that way they won't d*ck you around since they think you've already purchased the kit from them, hehehe. not lying, bending the truth

 

Sadly, most of the so-called "ricers" around our area would smoke an LG4 (no flame intended)...the F-body WOULD be the underdog!

 

well,im totally shhaving mine,and putting it on air shocks.itll b totally different. the rear will all be fiberglass speaker box,and im adding black metallic flames.all for next to nothin,i gots da hookup.hehe

 

You can get suitable lifts from Hotronics. They offer them (listed as high power actuators) with up to 1000 lb ratings, so even if you wanted to lift the whole front end it wouldn't be an issue. They start at $198.They are electric screw drive, not gas charged or hydraulic so they'll be easy to set up (the actuation part at least...no messy hoses to deal with).

I plan to do this to a future project just to pi$$ people off on this site!

http://www.hottronicsproducts.com


"Anybody can restore a classic...it takes a real man to cut one up!"

 

underdog...what...lol....that red 2.8l Firebird is the underdog...i have drove a 3.1 92 camaro...omg...well..good cars to be left alone..but start modding them to look fast..well....unless he plans on a V8 then that car is rice....a slow car lookn fast....if it was fast then that is another storie....i am not even gonna say if i like it or not.

 

I think that...SHE...is planning on doing a V8 swap. So I guess this means you approve.

 

I'll believe, when I see...

 

Yep, I'm female. And yep a V-8 wil go in soon. Just debating on what V-8.

Actually the 2.8 is actually pulling better then it did when it was new. Can't wait to get it to the track just to see what it will do now that its issues are worked out. We will probably also take it out to the track right before we do the swap and spray it, just to see what that would do for its times.

 

Yep yep.

 

If you're referring to Redraif's car, yes,its the underdog...and the visual mods came first because she could do those mods on her own, without relying on anybody else. Since I have been helping her (just over a year), the mechanicals are being addressed. The suspension has been rebuilt, with lots of performance parts added;the brakes rebuilt; the engine brought back into proper tune, etc. Now that its safe and reliable, we're going to swap to a V8, though exactly what hasn't been decided. Mid twelves off the bottle is the goal, though, and I can reach that with any of the three engines we're considering quite easily. It will be lots of fun. I'm sure the diehard thirdgen purists will still not approve, but who cares? It's her car, and its being built the way she wants it. I wish more people would build their cars without worrying about everybody else's opinion.

 

You can always count on Jim85IROC to come up with some sarcatic reply...:sillylol: :sillylol: :sillylol:...gotta love them....

Anyway i really haven't gone all out in modding my car.....but i do have a rather large wing on my car.....

There's more pictures on my website....

 

I would have agreed with you before I met Shannon (Redraif)...I was just as unaccepting of some of the visual mods as you guys. The funny thing is, though, if a 15+ year old near-stock appearing F-body goes by, the majority of people DON'T EVEN NOTICE IT, no matter how nice it is. To them its, at best, an old car...at worst, an old ******* car. You may not like that, I may not like that, but its true. However, I can speak from experience that most non-3rd gen or non-F-body people LIKE her car...they think its cool. Kids like it. Women like it (it gets far more attention than my 97 SS ever did). Older people like it. Even older car people seem to like it, at least til they see its a V6 (and that will change).Its different. The ONLY negative reaction it has ever gotten has been on message boards.

 

i have to add to what lt1 said.
how many peopel on this board when they go and buy rims they either get TTII's, Sniper rims, or ZR1 rims? The majority. you keep being *******s to the people that want to step out of the norm. Why don't people start making fun of my paint job? It is totaly not the normal paint job. Everywhere i go people always stare and ask me about the paint on the car. $hit i went to the biggest chevy dealer in my area on route 17 in paramus nj and almost all the sales people came out to look at my car. all of them liked it. The next time you see a car like red's that is different. think of all the people that say i have seen those rims on so many cars they are just ugly now, or anything else on your car. Its just a bunch of imature people who have nothing better to do then make fun of peoples cars for being different. Just wait till my car is done. I will post in every board on this website so everyone see my damn car. not to put red down but you think her car is differnet wait till i'm done. and boy i cant wait to hear all the bull**** fly. grow up and be different before you realize that being like everyone else makes you a COW. and dont even get me started on that subject either.

Redraif,
I love your car the way you are doing things. being different is what makes the after market for any car work as good as it does. hell maybe someone at a show who owns a shop will take your ideas and mass produce them. then you will see all of the haters with the same thing you did 5-10 years ago. Keep up the good work. I will be letting you know when i get my drawings of my project up. it is going to be pretty easy jsut a lot of patience. ok that is not how you spell it but you know.

 

Come on lets see something worth it and cool. Where are the ram air hoods?

 

twiztidz28,

What the hell is that paintjob? Need some more info......

 

Negative on these boards maybe. But in the real world I get nothing but compliments. I can barely get the car cleaned at a car shows because of the people comeing over asking me about the car and complimenting me on it. And no its not 90% ***** guys either. The kids love it, women love it, & I get guys of all ages applauding my well executed originality. Even some of the hard core street rod guys. So tons of negative attention, uh... Nope!

Joe has told me many times how he talks to car people and they somehow all know the car & that a girl drives it...& they only have nice things to say. I even had the hated cop who harassed me so bad about my tint, come up the me at a show recently and actually compliment me on the car. So I think your view is skewed.

At shows people can't believe "I" did 99% of my own visual mods. (not paid a shop) That's why the looks came first. I did not have the $ to pay a shop to do any of the work, so I figured it out on my own. (stereo, body, electrical) As far as an engine swap...whew... big bucks to pay someone else. And I did not have the experience to do it myself. Swaping an engine on your daily driver is not a learn as you go thing.

But thanks to Joe I'm learning about all the mechanicals. I had good instincts in the past mind you. Somehow, w/o training, I could always tell the mechanic what I thought it could be related to (fuel, electrical, exhaust...) Darn it if I was not right 90% of the time. Just ask Joe (LT1guy) how on the mark my instincts have been.

So with Joe's guidance I will swap in a v-8. And the real plan is 12s with no spray. 11s with spray....