I have had my bra on for about 6 months, well last week I went to wash my car, after having it in storage for awhile, and come to find out that the bra actually discolored the front of my hood and turned it white!

The questions I have are the following:

1) Can I restore the paint? My paint sucks anyway... people keying my car, van nuys paint, topped off by earl sheib (all done befoe I purchased), but until I get the 6k to get it painted right I would like to have it look at least right.

2) Can I get LeBra to pay for new paint at least on my hood?

Anyone else have this problem? It looks exactly like when you wear a bandaid for a few weeks, the skin under the bandaid turned all white, etc...

I am getting pictures soon.

Thanks Guys

James

 

What is the point of having a bra? I don't get it. Is it for appearance, does it serve some sort of function? After you get your car redone, will you get a bra again?

 

But first they do look good, however that is not why I originallly got my bra. Originally I bought it to cover the chips taken off the bottom of the front due to our cars being so low as well to help prevent more damage.

My idea of it looking good, was really an after thought. A Red 88 camaro convertible with all black leather interior and a black bra is a hot looking car in my opinion. The people who offer me money every week for my car would agree too

Anyone have any ideas getting my paint back to its red dull color instead of a white dull color?

Thanks

James

 

Sorry about that, I just had to know. I would give you an answer, but I never heard of the color underneath the bra being lighter. I have only seen that the color was darker underneath when removed. I wish I could help. Sorry

 

it's weird. I was expecting it to be a lot darker too

That would of been easier to conceal lol

I would like to see LeBra buy me a new hood, because it shouldn't have discolored like that. It should of remained the color when I put the bra on, not discolor like that

Thanks though... Anyone else?

James

 

The bra protects from stone chips, especially on the highway. I would say write to le bra and ask, I would image they may pay for some of it if you can prove the bra caused it somehow, like dated pictures before and after you bought the bra.

 

of the following letter? Any suggestions you would make to really drive the point?


To whom it may concern:

My name is James Robbins and I purchased your Lebra part #55252-01 for my 1988 Camaro Convertible. Recently I went to wash my car and started to remove the portion of your bra that covers the front of my hood. However, to my surprise the area covered by the bra had turned a strong white haze, totally diminishing the look and value of my hood. I have attached the photos of my hood so that you can see exactly what damage this has caused. I now must take time out to get several paint estimates due to the damage that was caused.

Please let me know how we can best take care of this unfortunate situation. I have included photos of the bra and my hood. If you are in need of additional photo’s please let me know.

Sincerely,

James M. Robbins

 

That sounds great! I hope they do reimburse you.

 

When I bought my car used it came with a bra made by le bra. After a few weeks I removed it and found that the paint underneath was completely discolored. If they pay for your paint let me know because I could use a new paint job myself.

webmaster@leisurequesttravel.com

 

Well, I think if they give me any kind of problem I would like to use your story and use this site as a reference to let everyone know to stay away from their product. Let's see what they do, and I think we can go from there.

James

PS Anyone else with this problem? If you do please post or email me.

 

Yes, It will cause discoloration of the paint.

And NO, they will not help you out...

 

KJ have you ever contacted them before? Or are you just assuming? If you have contacted them than details would be appreciated. Why don't you think they will do anything? Having a quick letter sent to them from my business attorney would probably turn up some results after my "full effort" attempt to resolve this with them.

James

 

I had this problem. I called, and had my lawer send a letter.
They sent a simple response that said somting like. It is stated in the manual that the Le Bra may cause paint color to fade over time.

It's like you sign a contract when you open it, and put it on. I'm pretty sure, that you wil not do any better..
Sorry bro....

Bra's are better left off, it makes for easier access, if ya know what I mean

 

hmmm nobody will post a pic of this?

 

I'd rather Kj Rockz posted a picture of what he's thinking of!

Normal discoloration can be put right with T-cut...has it gone beyond that then? Maybe pics would be a good idea after all....

 

its worth a try, a bra will dull your paint from constant rubbing on it, and it will keep it the color the car is when it was put on while the rest of the fades. ...but if it has some kind of reaction or something with the paint, that would cause it to haze or change lighter, maybe there is a defect.

 

LOL! they will do that.

 

bra's are fine for the odd long distance drive, in order to keep stone chipping down, but do not leave the mother on the front for weeks at a time.

1. it looks crap, and
2. Most people know it trashes your paint after a time.

 

Well, I greatly disagree with the "looks crap" comment. I guess too each his own, but it looks great IMO.

Also most people do not know that is trashes your paint, otherwise there wouldn't be other people chiming in on this post and there wouldn't be so many people buying them each and everyday.

James

 

try the search button man.

 

Did it possibly occur to you that I bought the bra between, or before, times when I was on this board? And who the he!! thinks to themselves, boy I bet this bra is going to hurt my car I better ask the board. It's there to protect your car not hurt it. If this happens so often they need to make the claim it can hurt your car than they need to place the disclaimer on their packaging. They don't.

Also just because you dont like what I did to my car you feel that you have the right to tell me it looks like crap. Rude responses should be kept off the boards.

I GREATLY appreciate anyone that replies to messages with the intent to help. Thank you guys.

To summarize I wasn't asking if you liked the bra, I was asking if you have seen others with this problem. I am really tired of some peoples first response to a question on these boards pointing out the search button. This is a message board without messages it dies. I use the search button everyday, however, like anyone that uses the search button, it returns hundreds of useless matches. Do a search for "turbo" and you will come up with guys who have listed a "turbo" hood in their sig.

I try to help guys with the 4th gen conversion stuff all I can even though the topic is brought up day after day. I think helping other fbody brethren is the best way to keep our vehicles alive.

James

 

That cheap earl sheib paint is probably why you have the 'bandaid' look.
How long was the time frame between the paint job and the time you put on the bra? If it was less than 3 months Lebra will probably leave you hanging. You should at least ask, the worst they can say is no right?
Here's a link to some generic Lebra Instructions It tells about waiting at least 3 months to let fresh paint cure.

 

Thanks 86IROCZ! That link really helps.

That page proves what I was saying. They say that they protect your vehicle from all of those things... What happens when they are the ones that do the damage?

As far as the paint, it was like that when I bought it. When I bought it, it looked like it had been painted years prior, and I had it for at least two years before putting the bra on.

I think they owe me some paint.

James

 

Unfortunately the real world dosn't work like that.

If I put a radar detector on my car, and the box says, "Will Prevent you from Getting Speeding Tickets".
Then I get busted speeding. Can I then go to the to the Radar detector company and say, hey, you have to pay for my ticket....

Please use some simple logic.

If this has happend to your car, and mutilple other. Do you not think that is has happend to 100's or 1000's of other cars. They have dealt with this problem before, and they will do it again. But I can GARUNTEE, that you will get nothing...

 

Wow, I thought I was the eternal pessimist, but I see I have met my match. Not to mess with your mojo KJ, but just because you didn't get something done, does not mean that no one else can.

As far as logic goes, before spouting off comments like you did, you should probably find out who you are talking too first. Trust me it will help you to not look like a jerk over and over again.

Also guess what there are radar detectors out there that say if you get a speeding ticket while using their product they WILL pay for your ticket. Though traffic school is a lot better than the insurance premiums if you ask me.

And by the way if any advertiser makes any kinds of claims as to what their product will or will not do they must stand behind that.

An example of this would be if you see an ad for a parts company guaranteeing that there new widget would give you 50 horsepower and it only delivered 5 they would have to either give you an appropriate widget fix or they will have to reimburse you the cost of the widget. That is why all the companies say "may" deliver up to 50 horsepower, etc... That's the law of the land. Unfortunately, LeBra isn't holding up to well under this.

I am in the advertising game and the laws NEVER back up the advertiser they always back up the purchaser. ALWAYS! By the link above they are making false claims as to their protective abilities, when the bra's themselves are destructive, harmful, and the things our cars need protection from.

James

 

Well I'll I can say is "Have Fun"

If you get somting, kool. I wanna see it though.
I see, I will believe.
You talk a lot of smack, nothing happens. Oh well...
Guess we will see, you sound farily determined to do somting.
But like my sig says....

And yes, I am very pesimistic about this.

 

KJ,

I am not trying to talk smack. Honestly. I just think you should try to help anyone on the boards, maybe explain what happened to you, why it didn't work for you, and than wish them good luck.

That way maybe they can do something a little different or go at this at a different angle. Instead you really started going off on me for wanting to get some action done.

I appreciate you participating in this matter, just wish you maybe went at it a bit differently. That's all

No hard feelings bro.

PS How's the weather out there? My aunt has a condo out on the big island and I have been wanting to get out there and get in on some jack fishing.

James

 

I had a bad experiance with them.
It left me with a lot of bad feelings towards the LeBra.

I personally believe that the Car looks 10 time better without it on anyway.
I liked it, cause it was on there when I first bought the car. But I took it off when I was going to get the car painted. That's when I realized that it had F'ed up the paint.
So I tried the above mentioned steps to no avail.
I ended up getting the car painted myslef, but it was after a frustrating battle, and I should have never even bothered. They were very prepared for my call and letter, and had me direted to people that handle these problems everyday. It was a huge waste of time and energy and I was just trying to prevent you from have to go thru all the bullsh*t that I had to go thru. It's not fu*king worth it. See it's got me worked up now, that's how much it bothered me, so I can understand you frustration....

Hawaii Nice. Really nice day today. Clear skies, 85 degrees. It's beautiful...

 

Thanks KJ,

I appreciate the info and your replies...

I understand how you feel. I just hate feeling powerless over things that I should be able to control lol No Im not a control freak... Just sounds like they are a company that doesn't give a rats A$$ about their clients because they have enough people buying the bra for their ford taurus

Maybe we can get the moderators to get a black list of products not to use on Fbodies... The LeBra being one of them...

Thanks,

James

 

Kewl....

 

I would think they would tell you that the paint was cheap etc... they probably wont take responsibility for it.. however, I had a bra on my car before and when I took it off it was fine.... I put it on for a road trip and left it on for a couple of months, but I had expensive paint and it didnt do anything except a few little rub marks..

 

and I'll say it again... Camaro's have *****, not *******. nuff said.

 

omnipotentgoku I didn't name it a bra. lmao

If it works better for you, we can call it a:

Front fascia and hood beautification protective vinyl cover which protects your car from stone chips while fading your paint

Personally I think "bra" is just easier. lol

 

I have heard it called a bug bra before. Is this the same thing?

Seriously, I can't over stress how damn good that T-cut stuff is. The original stuff (not some cheap copy) can do wonders to paint. My car has been sitting for 6 months and the (cheap) paintwork (done by the previous owner, possibly with a sponge and a seeing-eye dog) has oxidised so bad, it looks as if someone has resprayed it with chalk. A bottle of Purple T-cut color restorer later, and everyone who sees the car asks if I'm respraying the car a panel at a time. It really is that good!

Are you able to post a pic? I'm sure some of the more morbid amongst us would love to see it.

On the point of recovering some damages from the LeBra company, try arming yourself with a photograph of the damage, and politely mention that it may well appear in local and national newspapers if something is not worked out. Hopefully the threat of losing that much business will offset against the small price to pay for your paintwork.

And good luck

Si

 

Pics of the car to come later today... Need to find my adapter for my digital camera. Also what T-cut stuff do you mean? I waxed it and it really changed the color back to almost new. Only problem is it brought out every scratch and flaw, but I guess at least it doesn't have the chalk blast that you spoke of anymore.

James

 

If the bra has messed up your paint and you are unable to get it fixed is the best option to put the thing back on. Better of 2 evils!

Cheers

Simon

Bra's are for women not Camaros and even they look better without them on

 

Do I have to separate you two?

 

T-Cut is a bit like Turtle Wax I suppose, a mild cutting polish. If you're going down the road of compensation though, I wouldn't attempt to fix it. You may be accused of causing the damage yourself!

Simon,

Putting the bra back on? I guess that's a bit like buying car mats to hide your worn out carpet. It'd work if you're not too bothered about what's underneath...I know I would be.

Has the bra damaged any of the paint covering metalwork? And is it bad enough to expose bare metal? If so, putting the bra back on and pretending it's not there is the worst thing you can do.

 

That LeBra link is Instructions for their "Car Cover", not the Front end "Bras". I had a LeBra front end "Bra" on my car for weeks at a time for about a year, and I had no paint problems at all. I even washed my car with it on a few times with no problems, the instructions said it was alright to do. The problem you have is that the paint is of poor quality. LeBra should not be responsible for actions of others that cause problems. Read your "Lebra" literature carefully or email Customer Service at their site www.lebra.com for specific questions.

 

GKK
No action of mine caused a problem. I bought the car with the paint job, the paint is in bad shape NOW, because it is older, it has been "used" has a lot of scratches... Not really on the hood, but all over the ret of the car... That is why I dog on the paint, and the only reason. Also how come others who have not had their cars repainted have the same problem with their bra's? Or how come, if it's just bad paint, the rest of the car didn't turn white. It is clear that their bra is what caused the problem.

Si_camaro
Thanks for the T-cut info I will try to find some for the rest of the car and not touch the hood. As far as the floor mats, I'm guilt of that as well lol I am waiting till I have all the pieces of the interior ready before taking it into my upholstery guy. I have about $800.00 worth of this and that (including carpet) going into the interior. I am also waiting to get the car completely ground up repainted, before doing the interior, becuase to have it done and than to tear it out again would be a waste.

Makai
I think KJ and I got it worked out lol and I appreciate his help in the matter.