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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 03:12 PM
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Ok, now I am undecided, again. Wheel opinions

Ok, here is my car with the WS6 wheels,


And she is with the OZ's,


I am starting to like the OZ's as well as the ZR1's.
I want the ZR1's with the 17x11 rear wheels since I like the wide stance.
So, what do you guys/gals think? Keep the WS6's, OZ's or get the ZR1's?

ps: these are actual pictures, not photoshopped.

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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 03:16 PM
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wow, the oz's are nice
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 03:28 PM
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thanks,
there are more pics of the OZ's here,
http://www.transamws6.com/pics/oz/

They are full res pics straight from my Digicamera.
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 03:31 PM
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Centerline Mojave Rims... :drool:
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 03:32 PM
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Can't go wrong either way, but I like the WS6 more.
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 03:41 PM
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The OZ's are wider, makes a 275/40 tire wider and lower profile, since they are 9.5" wide vs 9".
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 04:01 PM
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Where can you get those centerline Mojave rims? They look great.
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 04:05 PM
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Just get some paint on that thing already!!
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 04:26 PM
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I vote oz, I really like the ws6 wheels as much as the ZR1s (well, zr1s a tiny bit more) but those wheels just look good. Since you are going to paint the car black (I think) I think it would look a lot better than ws6 or zr1 wheels for some reason.
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 04:33 PM
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Where can you get those Centerline Mojave rims? They look great.
Check out http://www.centerlinewheels.com to find a centerline seller in your area... or contact them directly. I fell in love with them after the runaround with the Ronal thing. Had to find something better. I will get the Mojaves when >I< can afford them and not be pressured about it.
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 04:39 PM
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I'm voting for the OZ wheels.......

Personally I would go with some Chrome rims instead of Silver.....
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 04:40 PM
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The OZ, most definately.
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 04:44 PM
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Should've made this a poll, but if you ask me the OZ's would win, hands down anyway.
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 07:24 PM
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Zepher keep with the WS6 rims and have them sent and get them chrome dipped or do what the coolector edition TA's have where the 5 spokes are black and the rim edge is polished. kinda like the GTA black lace rims.
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 07:26 PM
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lol oh yeah ur pics just reminded me of a 4th gen i saw the other day. it was a black 4th gen TA dont know the yr but it was around 98-99 yr. and it was black and where on ur car it turns purple it was the same on the 4th gen. i wish i had the digital camera to take a pic but couldnt.
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 07:30 PM
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i like the WS6s more
but they both look good.
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 07:31 PM
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does OZ even make those wheels any more?
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 07:36 PM
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I would keep the WS6 wheels and save the money.
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 07:53 PM
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and if u like my idea about the rims how they have them on the collectors edition TA the next thing u should do to set the car of more is GET IT PAINTED ONE COLOR lol :lala:
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 08:07 PM
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Sell the OZ and WS6 wheels and get the black ZR1's, with the polished lip! Go for the 17by 11's in the rear too, that would look bad ***, especially if you were going to paint the car gloss black again! People will always have a different opinion, just do what YOU like. good luck!
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 08:32 PM
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Thirdgens look good with wheels that have a dished lip on them. Hence the Formula wheels and GTA wheels are deep set. The firehawk wheels are dished in as well. So I say find something with a lip to it, and your thirdgen will really look good. Its more of a racing look anyway.

Personally I think the OZ wheels look cheap, and if you dont plan on any other wheels than the ones listed, I say stick with the WS6's.
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 10:09 PM
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WS6 all the way. Those OZ wheels just lack character.
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 10:19 PM
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0z's

i vote for WS6's. that way you get some good lookin rims, your not looking for money for ZR1's and you can send me the OZ's for my car

OZ's are the best, and are going on my car in the future!:hail:


P.S: 1 more question....have you decided on a color yet?
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 11:16 PM
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I vote OZ's
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 11:44 PM
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I say just go with the Oz rims. They look great on your bird.
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 11:48 PM
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 11:55 PM
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Old Sep 7, 2002 | 12:00 AM
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Old Sep 7, 2002 | 01:29 AM
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Hey Snowdog, how much do those Mojave's run for?
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Old Sep 7, 2002 | 01:56 AM
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stay WS6 man ... and whatever you do don't get the firehawk rims

(bc that's what mine will be wearing :sillylol )
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Old Sep 7, 2002 | 02:30 AM
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I say OZ with the optional Carbon Fiber centercaps.
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Old Sep 7, 2002 | 06:14 AM
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ws6 all the way! I think they look so good on your car.
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Old Sep 7, 2002 | 08:19 AM
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I say the WS6 ones.
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Old Sep 7, 2002 | 09:47 AM
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OZ's.... cause I want your WS6's for my T/A Hehehe

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Old Sep 7, 2002 | 10:48 AM
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Since were talkin 3rdgen, here, the WS6 if you want to be unigue! Which I know you do You see a lot of thirdgens now with the ZR1s. They look better on Camaro's anywayz.

the OZ wheels are deifferent, but they seem to flat for me...
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Old Sep 7, 2002 | 01:16 PM
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Backspacing etc...

Those FWD rims are not offset properly and you will need to spend extra $$ for them to fit properly.... I don't believe in adapters. I think it hinders the performance the cars were designed for.
It's your money... but I feel it is much better to spend the same if not less for the Mojaves and not have to worry about the backspacing at all.
The money you THOUGHT you saved is spent on the adapters you need to get them to fit!
I think FWD rims on a RWD vehicle look funky. But that is my opinion. I think it is another FAD soon to be changed once more....

Spider7, I will tell you those wheels come in several different sizes and offsets.... so the price varies. Like I said in my other post, check with them at the website and call a distributor in your area to find out. They are worth it.

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Old Sep 7, 2002 | 03:15 PM
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Ronal's firehawk rim above all others. Maybe with a plack powdercoat on the inside of the rim and a polished black lip.
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Old Sep 7, 2002 | 03:32 PM
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Re: Backspacing etc...

Originally posted by Snowdog 91 Formula
I think it hinders the performance the cars were designed for.
Why do you suppose that? THere are ten lugnuts per wheel, and in Manny's case, thats only on the front! He has the 4th Gen Rear End, so no adapter in the back are needed.

I just see anywhere for performance to be hindered.
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Old Sep 7, 2002 | 03:36 PM
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Ronal's firehawk rim above all others. Maybe with a plack powdercoat on the inside of the rim and a polished black lip.
Everybody and there brother has been buying those! I believe Zepher is trying to be "unique".

To me, I don't like the "deep dish" part about them. I like the WS6 wheels on thirdgens, but they are too played out on fourth gens.

If were talking 4th gen T/A's, its defiantly Polished Y2K Vette Wheels :hail:
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Old Sep 7, 2002 | 03:48 PM
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Re: Re: Backspacing etc...

Originally posted by stuart69427
Why do you suppose that? THere are ten lugnuts per wheel, and in Manny's case, thats only on the front! He has the 4th Gen Rear End, so no adapter in the back are needed.

I just see anywhere for performance to be hindered.
I think you mean you just don't see anywhere the performance would be hindered....

Well I think you should do some reading up on offsets and the reasons behind them....
Yes it does affect the way the car handles.... oversteer is what usually occurs with FWD.... Understeer with deeper rims...

Some websites have quite a bit of information on the subject... the zero offset of the thirdgens are what makes them outperform 4th gens in a lot of ways, and by doing this, you are just making your car oversteer.

It's your car, and do what you will, but the reason they designed and engineered our cars like they are... it is to optimize everything for it's own performance. You will be taking away from it with adapters... ESPECIALLY with the front wheels.
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Old Sep 7, 2002 | 04:14 PM
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Try this link... maybe it will help you understand more about offset than the Tire Rack or any other seller of rims....

http://www.usacomp.com/Offset.htm

There is more to it than adapters.

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Old Sep 7, 2002 | 04:47 PM
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Get some ZO6 wheels, that's what i did!
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Old Sep 7, 2002 | 05:07 PM
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Originally posted by 86IROCNJ
Get some ZO6 wheels, that's what i did!
Do you have a pic of your car with the rims on it? Those rims are on my top 5 list of what I want to get. Im making a decision Tuesday. I just have to get a pic of my car so people can photoshop the rims for me.
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Old Sep 7, 2002 | 06:39 PM
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i like the WS6s way more
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Old Sep 7, 2002 | 06:52 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Backspacing etc...

Originally posted by Snowdog 91 Formula
I think you mean you just don't see anywhere the performance would be hindered....

Well I think you should do some reading up on offsets and the reasons behind them....
Yes it does affect the way the car handles.... oversteer is what usually occurs with FWD.... Understeer with deeper rims...

Some websites have quite a bit of information on the subject... the zero offset of the thirdgens are what makes them outperform 4th gens in a lot of ways, and by doing this, you are just making your car oversteer.

It's your car, and do what you will, but the reason they designed and engineered our cars like they are... it is to optimize everything for it's own performance. You will be taking away from it with adapters... ESPECIALLY with the front wheels.

Understeer and oversteer aren't just from the type of wheels you are running.

Oversteer happens on FWD since the front wheels are pulling the car.
Understeer happens on a RWD car since the rear wheels are pushing the car, which will make the front wheels slide, causing under steer.

Ever see the ROH Snypers? They look like that have spacers built onto them.
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Old Sep 7, 2002 | 06:54 PM
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No i don't, sorry! Even if i did i wouldn't know how to post them. I do have the wheels mounted and balanced, ready to put on. It is just that i do not want to mess them up while i do my motor swap. I am selling my SS wheels that i had on the car though. Had to throw that in there! Well, ES87iroc saw them when he picked up his new gfx so i am not lying but i do not have any pictures, sorry. They are off of a 2002 too. later
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Old Sep 7, 2002 | 06:59 PM
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Not going to argue but I thought I would let you know that I don't believe in having a rim that isn't designed to fit our vehicles. If you do get a FWD rim, you have to spend a lot more money to get them to fit properly is what I am saying, and I think it looks cheesy.

And if that isn't enough, think about that adapter moving the center point of the rim back... and you are saying it is as strong by moving the center backward? You are taking a stong point and turning it into two weaker points. You are physically changing the angle of steer!!! It's simple physics. The car has to work harder to turn them etc etc....

With the right spacers, the angle may be corrected, but how much money have you spent? If you want to have those kind of rims, it's your perogative, but like I said, it really does look cheesy.

That's my .02

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Old Sep 7, 2002 | 07:12 PM
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I know what you mean about it being weak! I wonder if it would be really safe to break loose with my new motor while using wheel adapters? Until i get some money for a set of Simmons or Fisk wheels i will be using the ZO6 wheels! Does anyone know what the wheel adapters are good for, rated at for safety? I got mine from Andris Skulte and so i should probally give him an e-mail to confirm! later
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Old Sep 7, 2002 | 07:45 PM
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I thought the point of the adapters was to correct the wheels to get the zero offset?

the adapters use a total of ten lugnuts. THe adapter bolts onto the axle just like the wheel, and then the wheel bolts onto the adapter. Its made out of billet aluminum, Its should be just as strong!
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Old Sep 7, 2002 | 07:56 PM
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Thats what i was told! And i only use an air gun on them to tighten the lugs.
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