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Old Nov 5, 2002 | 10:30 AM
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the car is sweet, no doubt. but in all honesty and fairness i hate that paint job. and i truly dont understand the logic behind buying a hard top and turning it into a convertable. the car is weet, i dont think ne one can boast that they could have done it better. But alot of these people who are praising this car for the conversions are the same purist who hate when people try to make or clone there rs into z28 or there firebirds in to trasn ams. when this car has a z28 badge, mostly 4th gen styling and just the over all look of a 91,92 z28/4thgen hybrid convert when it began life as a hard top iroc. I ask u whats the difference? i personal love the car and dont mind when people make rs into z's or sc into rs or z's but most people dont, yet they seem to worship this car which has appearently done the same thing.
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Old Nov 5, 2002 | 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by pardonme2711
the car is sweet, no doubt. but in all honesty and fairness i hate that paint job. and i truly dont understand the logic behind buying a hard top and turning it into a convertable. the car is weet, i dont think ne one can boast that they could have done it better. But alot of these people who are praising this car for the conversions are the same purist who hate when people try to make or clone there rs into z28 or there firebirds in to trasn ams. when this car has a z28 badge, mostly 4th gen styling and just the over all look of a 91,92 z28/4thgen hybrid convert when it began life as a hard top iroc. I ask u whats the difference? i personal love the car and dont mind when people make rs into z's or sc into rs or z's but most people dont, yet they seem to worship this car which has appearently done the same thing.
How does the car have mostly 4th gen styling, and how did they do anything like an RS->Z28 Transition? The car is an IROC, and still looks exactly like a 4th gen... The interior is the only thing appearance-wise that is 4th gen.
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Old Nov 5, 2002 | 12:00 PM
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if I am correct in 1988 you could not get an IROC as a T-top car.(ok... hubby corrected me... you could) A couple of years after having it my husband chopped the top and made it a t-top car. It's still an IROC by the vin #.
The convertible conversion was done mostly to get more points when we were showing the car with the ISCA. At that time we did any crazy mod to win the custom class. We finished out 3rd in custom in the United States after 5 years of showing the car. The paint was also for showing. The judges like custom graphics and we hate them, but flames have always been around and never seem to go out of style. We also have a 2002 SS vert, but my husband has always been in love with the 3rd gen bodystyle. He's had this car since new and will probably always have it.

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Old Nov 5, 2002 | 12:08 PM
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Originally posted by Scott_92RS
How does the car have mostly 4th gen styling, and how did they do anything like an RS->Z28 Transition? The car is an IROC, and still looks exactly like a 4th gen... The interior is the only thing appearance-wise that is 4th gen.
The int., engine, even the engine bay is all 4th gen. Which to me is cool but to most on this board would be considered wrong or laot would say go buy a 4th gen. And its an iroc not a z28 yet it looks like 91/92 z28 if ne one else on this board had done such a thing they would have been bashed for not maintaining a stock appearance and trying to be something they aren't. Personally i love it when people intergrate the different types of camaros as well as 4th gen styling into there cars makes it seem custom yet still maintian that classic over all 3rd gen appearance.
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Old Nov 5, 2002 | 12:16 PM
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All IROCs are Z28s...though not all Z28s are IROCs. I wouldn't put this in the same category as rebadging an RS as a Z28.
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Old Nov 5, 2002 | 07:47 PM
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Originally posted by pardonme2711
The int., engine, even the engine bay is all 4th gen. Which to me is cool but to most on this board would be considered wrong or laot would say go buy a 4th gen. And its an iroc not a z28 yet it looks like 91/92 z28 if ne one else on this board had done such a thing they would have been bashed for not maintaining a stock appearance and trying to be something they aren't. Personally i love it when people intergrate the different types of camaros as well as 4th gen styling into there cars makes it seem custom yet still maintian that classic over all 3rd gen appearance.
What was the point to bringing this up. I think all that will do is make people A) get upset with you, B) Start thinking about not liking this car as much as they did.

I think it would be best just not to bring this kind of stuff up.
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Old Nov 5, 2002 | 08:47 PM
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What was the point to bringing this up. I think all that will do is make people A) get upset with you, B) Start thinking about not liking this car as much as they did.
I'll use the standard "rice-basher" defense (NO, I'm not saying this car is rice!) "It's his opinion, and he's entitled to it."...I think pardonme made a decent point, and was brought up tastefully and without prejudice, especially considering how "ricers" are treated on here. Again, don't get me wrong, I LOVE the car, looks great, I just wanted to maybe defend pardon a bit as I bet few people here are going to.
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Old Nov 5, 2002 | 11:33 PM
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im not posting to argue wether it was photoshopped or not, but instead to ask one question that i hope someone can answer...what kind of rims are those? and how big? thanks guys
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 02:05 AM
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I for one appreciate all the hardwork that went into that car regardless for what it is.
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 02:17 AM
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I thought that the article said that the car was put together from two crushed camaros, not purchased new?

Maybe it was a different 3rd gen, oh well.

Maybe you used a wrecked vert for the vert conversion, I'm too tired to remember.

I'll just have to read it again one day when I have time.

I just read in another post that you have ABS. What braking system do you have? How did you set it up? Did you have the ABS when you had the 3rd gen suspension, or are you using 4th gen brakes because you are now using a 4the gen suspension?

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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 02:20 AM
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Originally posted by oldblueZ
I thought that the article said that the car was put together from two crushed camaros, not purchased new?

Maybe it was a different 3rd gen, oh well.

I'll just have to read it again one day when I have time.

Thanks,
Jesse
Is that an F40 Wing on your Camaro?
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 02:26 AM
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Yes and No. It's an F40 style from Wings West. It was in the back seat of my car when I bought it. I'll take a $400+ wing for free anyday.

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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 02:28 AM
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Yes and No. It's an F40 style from Wings West. It was in the back seat of my car when I bought it. I'll take a $400+ wing for free anyday.

-Jesse
Yeah, thats true, although I would not take just any wing. How does it fit?
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 02:29 AM
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I like the wing, it's kinda like the old Runners....
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 02:32 AM
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devianb,
pm'd ya

geez, you guys and cable modems, I can't keep up.

KJ Rockz,
The owner that bought the wing purchased it with the intent of having the camaro look similar to the old roadrunners.

-Jesse
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 02:34 AM
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devianb,
pm'd ya

geez, you guys and cable modems, I can't keep up.

KJ Rockz,
The owner that bought the wing purchased it with the intent of having the camaro look similar to the old roadrunners.

-Jesse
That's friccin kewl.

And I'm on a T1 Line.....
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 02:40 AM
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When will people understand that there is a difference between putting a sticker on something stating it is something else or simply making it something else. I own a berlinetta with ground effects because i like the look of ground effects. at the same time, i didnt badge the car as a z28. this guy has done nothing wrong in doing this. now if he had SS emblems on it...
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 02:43 AM
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When will people understand that there is a difference between putting a sticker on something stating it is something else or simply making it something else. I own a berlinetta with ground effects because i like the look of ground effects. at the same time, i didnt badge the car as a z28. this guy has done nothing wrong in doing this. now if he had SS emblems on it...
This guy could put SS emblems on it with all the work he has done.


that is an incredible amount, and it's not like he's throwing on dubs with pink striped leather interrior.

This guy is my freaking idol.
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 08:25 AM
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Originally posted by oldblueZ
I thought that the article said that the car was put together from two crushed camaros, not purchased new?

Maybe it was a different 3rd gen, oh well.

Maybe you used a wrecked vert for the vert conversion, I'm too tired to remember.

I'll just have to read it again one day when I have time.

I just read in another post that you have ABS. What braking system do you have? How did you set it up? Did you have the ABS when you had the 3rd gen suspension, or are you using 4th gen brakes because you are now using a 4the gen suspension?

Thanks,
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I'll try to answer questions....

When we made the car into a convertible we purchased 2 wrecked convertibles for parts. we chopped the top off our 88 (again) and installed all the parts from the 2 verts. (also used the interior) This was around 1996. At this time we still had the TPI in the car.

Then in 2000 we tore the car apart again. We sold the street and performance TPI. At this time, we were done showing the car and Tim wanted to drive it. Bought a 97 Z and clipped the car our 88 from the floorboard forward. We used the suspension, motor/tranny and interier from 97. Used our same fenders and hood and front assembly. Since we used wiring harness from 97 we had the abs - airbags and brakes.

Now we are pulling out LS1 to update to LT1. Again we will be replacing the suspension and braking system to 2000 model.

Currently we are running Z06 rims and tires. WITH SS CENTERCAPS!
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 09:20 AM
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You mean LT1 to LS1.
I love the car and custom work done to it.
My brother has just started doing auto body work. I'll have to show him your car!
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 12:24 PM
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You mean LT1 to LS1.
I love the car and custom work done to it.
My brother has just started doing auto body work. I'll have to show him your car!
you are correct.. thank you!
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 01:11 PM
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Killer Car!!!!!

This car looks killer in the pictures. I would love to see more of the conversion photos. I would also love to be able to see this car up close so i could see the craftsmanship & attension to detail. If its been a ISCA car then it has to be cool.
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 12:35 PM
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funny: I've read here a couple time about people switching badges. Sometimes you cannot tell the difference. But anyway I have not seen anyone do it until the other night. I was coming out of a bar and saw a 4th gen "SS" pull up that did not sound like an "SS". The fool had a single exhaust 4th gen RS and slapped some SS badges on it. Not fooling me.



Ok...back to the present topic..
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 02:44 PM
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slp had single exhaust as an option that "can" be less noisy and add more power. although i'm pretty sure what you saw was a v6.



Fatal88, i would still like to know how the door pannels were made to fit without cutting???
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 03:55 PM
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hey fatal what interior is this?
its beautiful

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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 05:48 PM
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93-97 Camaro interior.
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 08:26 PM
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how much of a PITA was it to install the 4th gen front clip? where both of them the same width? that opens up a whole new set of ideas for people now. how long will it be before someone takes a 4th gen nose and puts it on a 3rd gen.
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