usa1racing

Hopefully someone can help me out here. I'm trying, like so many others, to get the bright parking lights like on new Corvette's, F-Body's, etc. Basically my proposed setup is to have the high beam filament in the dual filament bulb to be constantly on whenever the parking lights are turned on, and when the turn signal lever is switched, for the high beam filament to blink on and off. I'm having a little trouble devising a wiring diagram to accomplish this and if anyone can provide some insight into how this should be wired, it would be appreciated. If anyone has a better, easier, or more cost-effective way to get the brightest possible parking lights, such as bulbs, etc. please let me know.

fast83camaro

why bother???

Inwo

I'm not sure what exactly you're saying. When you hit your turn signal you want the high beams to blink? Also do you have a bird or a camaro?

MetalliCamaroRS

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Its been done I believe... do a search for Daytime Running Lights or DRLs.

There was a schematic floating around here somewhere, but I don't have it.

usa1racing

Yeah, that's right Inwo, to have the bright filament in the parking lamp to blink..Also, I have a Camaro. I have the schematic for DRL's and it's looking like that's the only way to do it, however, it's complicated with a circuit board and is beyond my skill level and I dont really feel it's worth all the effort.

ontogenesis

perhaps some clarification is in order. You've all seen the bright parking lights on the new corvettes and fbodies, it makes them look pretty cool. What he's trying to accomplish is making his parking lights as bright as those on the new cars. He wants to do this by putting in a high beam sealed beam bulb into the parking light, but he's having trouble because our parking lights are also our front turn signals so they have to blink, he's having trouble wiring them to blink and he wants to know how he can get the high beam bulb he's putting in his parking lights/turn signals to blink.

usa1racing

Yea, that's almost spot-on what I want to do. Maybe when I said "high beam" that was confusing. What I meant by high beam was the brighter filament in the dual filament bulbs that is turned on and blinks when the turn signal switch is flipped. But, like you said, ontogenesis, it will be easier to use a single filament bulb in place of the standard 1157 bulb. My only concern is that I've seen the dual filament bulbs in 27/8W, 35/5W, and even 50/15W from MacEwen. The reason I was still considering trying to use a dual filament bulb is because I'm not sure of what the wattage ratings are on other single filament bulbs, and I wanted to use the brighter filament in the dual filament bulbs to be on constantly, and blink whenever the turn signal lever is flipped.

CustomX

Why not mod the bulb and plug from a 4th gen to fit in the thirdgen parking lamps?

IROCZTWENTYGR8

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I can't figure why any1 would want DRL's?!

fast83camaro

same here! as I posted earlier....

scauffiel

Okay gents. Here's the thing. He asked a question, a specific question. Follow along with me here...

This is a helpful post and is on topic:
This is neither:
THIS is a helpful post and again, is on topic:
Sadly, this is not:
Okay, quiz time! From an original non-helpful poster comes another, YES ANOTHER, astounding bit of hyperbole:
Which is it? Helpful and on-topic? Or Non-helpful and off the topic of the post? 3... 2... 1...

If you said Non-helpful and pretty much a waste of time (hell, you may even have gone so far as to say "post *****" which is good too) - give yourself a cookie. If you said "Helpful and on-topic" then you should call up Ripleys Believe It Or Not and show them how you get along in day to day living with your head in your ***. I mean, damn, you even refer to your original non-helpful off-topic post! Aieeeeeee!

It's a fairly simple thing really. If you wanna bullsh!t - go to nethirdgen.org. If you wanna talk technical and have helpful insights, please post here, but stay on topic.

Friggin signal to noise ratio is killing me.

My bit of "on topic" here is just to say, be careful going to higher wattage bulbs as they get pretty hot and you can melt the housing. Ask me how I know. If you can't do the wiring of that schematic that is floating around here somewhere ask one of the guys that posted in that post that HAS done it to help you out. Offer a case of beer or something. You'd be surprised what people would do to help out a fellow thirdgenner. Not to mention a case of beer is pretty sweet too.

Steve
Part of the "board SPECOPS" team

IROCZTWENTYGR8

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You ever think we might be trying to talk him out of it without being obvious??

scauffiel

Oh! ****, now that you mention it, no I didn't think of that! See, I was reading his post and when he said "I'm having a little trouble devising a wiring diagram to accomplish this and if anyone can provide some insight into how this should be wired, it would be appreciated. If anyone has a better, easier, or more cost-effective way to get the brightest possible parking lights, such as bulbs, etc. please let me know." I thought that meant he wanted help doing it. I didn't read deeply enough into his post to realize that he really wanted to be talked out of it. I also have my "Use ESP when reading posts to find out what members really want" turned off in my user control panel. I need to pay more attention.

:hail: Thanks for setting me straight. :rockon: This is probably why I don't understand women either.

Take it easy,
Steve

BOTTLEDZ28

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I aslo looked into doing htis on my91z28. The first thing that needs to be done is eaither get new lenses that are clear and glossy or sand and buf your old ones.
I read somewhere that if you reverse the leads going into the bulb that it will make the bulb brighter. basically the + is no - and vise versa. Not sure if it is true or not just my 2 cents.
How about those new LED bulbs

fast83camaro

Just a little info to make up for my "off topic" posts earlier....I know that if you grind of the lower prong, on the base of the bulb, it will go in the other way and the bright filament will stay on and ther dim one would blink with the turn signal...

Sorry, no pics of the procedure...

Azure

scauffiel, please, dear sir...let me buy you a beer. Hell, I'll buy you a brewery.

usa1racing

Yeah, right on.. I didn't want to be talked out of it. Like I said, I want the bright parking lights when the parking lights are turned on by way of the headlight switch. I don't want DRL's. The only reason I wanted to refer to the DRL wiring diagram in the first place is that maybe I could have modified it to operate by way of the headlight switch rather than whenever the ignition is turned on. To scauffiel, what wattage were you running whenever you melted your housings? I will look tomorrow for the bulb and plug from a 4th gen, and the feasability of modifying it to fit in a 3rd gen. I did remove, clean, buff, and polish my original housings, and they look good as new. I never thought of the LED lights, where can I get them? I did file off the lower prong and the bright filament comes on now, however the light bulb wont stay in the socket now, and I dont believe the dimmer filament will be visible whenever it's blinking.

deadbird

I think this will work the way you're wanting using 3 relays. Don't trust it fully though since I drew it out. Someone with some actual wiring knowledge may want to look over/correct it but, to me, it seems right...

usa1racing

That's EXACTLY what I was looking for. Like I said, I'm not the most expierienced when it comes to automotive wiring, but I your guys expeirience. So if anyone else wants to look over the diagram, just to double check, go for it. Any other suggestions? I'm going to accumulate parts and perform this mod whenever I upgrade the headlights to H4.

TexasLT1

deadbird, seems like that would work. I'll have to find a copy of the DRL diagram I've got somewhere. its a little more complicated than that but only uses 2 relays.

spearson

Hey Texas, what are those rims you have on your photoshop sig pic?

maroon88iroc

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are you saying if you grind off the lower prong on the bottom of the 1157 bulb when you have your parking lights on the brighter filament will be on (therefor being brighter than normal) and then when you put the turn signal on the the light will go dim to indicate the turn?

if that is what you are saying i will have to try that i have been wanting to do this for a while but i couldnt figure out how i could pull it off but that sounds very easy.

JeremyNYR

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rather than grinding the little nub on the bulb and risking it not holding in the socket well, you could snip the two wires, reverse them and solder+heatshrink it. This way you can replace the bulb easily in the future. Although maybe for testing to see if you want to do it, you can mess with the bulb first.

deadbird

That is... just.... well, right but, wrong for the question asked.


If you 'filp' the bulb, the 'low' (less bright) element will light when you use your turn signal. Making it much less visable during the day.With the marker lamps on, the 'high' (brighter) element will be lit. When you use your signal, the 'high' will stay lit. The 'low' obviously do not have the intensity to overcome the 'high' elements brightness.

(yes, I know it's an old post back from the dead)

iansane

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Wow. Resurrection.

Either way the first thing I was going to suggest was just to reverse the wires going to the housing. That'll switch it so the bright (previously blinker) comes on when the running light used to and the running light will come on when you hit the blinkers.

maroon88iroc

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the thread wasnt that old...

but on my iroc there are 3 wires going to the parking light. two black one green. which ones should i switch.

also i did that little thing were i grinded down the little prong on the bulb and it did make the high filiment come on for the parking lights but the blinker didnt work. when i put the left turn signal on the light just stayed bright and inside the car the green left arrow stayed on it didnt blink. any suggestions on why it is doing that?

deadbird

The marker light does not turn off when you use the signal.

The low element also probably doesn't draw enough juice to make the flasher relay work properly (similar to having a burnt out bulb).

If DRL's were as simple as just flipping the bulb (or wires which does the same thing).. I wouldn't have went through the trouble of making the above, apparently unneeded, diagram.
GM probably wouldn't have went through the trouble of making a module specific for that purpose either.

maroon88iroc

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so even if i switch the wires to the parking light it still wont work properly correct? i might have to take a look at the drl's

jimp2001

You can wire that up with 1 relay and a resistor instead of that huge 3 relay mess.

My turn filament is lit with parking lights, when the blinker is activated it shuts the light off and on. The low watt filament is not used.

maroon88iroc

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jimp2001 that is exactly what i want to do to mine. thanks for the info. can you explain to me how you wired it up and what relays and resistors you used?

deadbird

The 3 relay 'mess' is for the turn lamps to be lit w/o having the marker lights on (which also lights the rear markers). Or, as the original poster was asking for, DRL lights.

If you can do that with one relay... by all means, show me up.

If some $1 junkyard relays and exrtra grabbed wiring is still lto expensive... by all means... grind the bulb and flip it.

I thought I was trying to help.... apparently not.

iansane

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I was under the impression that when the signal lights blink, the marker lights turn off. Sorry. And to me, the original poster didn't specify DRL's, just the bright parking lights associated with DRL's.

I need to get around to the DRL mod, although it's almost habit to flip the parking lights on whenever I get in the car.

bulletboy29

I want to try this! What size resistor would I need to use? Does the resistor go before or after the relay?

maroon88iroc

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are you talking to me? i really appreciate the diagram but i would rather do it with the one relay and resistor b/c i have my parking lights on all the time anyways so thats not a problem and the wiring would be much easier. and the flip the bulb thing didnt work for me i dont know if i did it wrong or what...

deadbird

I was adressing jimp2001 obviously.

I wasn't trying to come off as the -ss I apparently did in the above, re-reading it tongiht. But, a 1 relay diagram would still be good to see. I know how it would work but, for others, it would be nice.

I don't know how to explain the flipping the bulb thing any more simple except, I'm sure you been behind a car that had one brake light on (bright) and one not (dim) at night.

The one side (dim) lit with the brake (the car is stopping)... the other stayed bright.

This is a car with the bulb in backwards. Same things works with the front signals.

The easist solution is not always the best.

I'll stay out of it from here.