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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 11:42 AM
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4th gen mecham wing on 3rd gen

this would be an awesome idea.if anyone could photoshop it would be seriously awesome. i know one member put a 4th gen wing on a 3rd gen using bondo because the posts are too short , but i want any aero type wing that looks bigger and has some lip on it. i wish i has the skills to do one on my car but i dont so maybe someon else allready has. lets at least see a photoshop.
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 11:55 AM
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thats a sweet idea but you should post a pic of the Mecham Wing so othere ppl know what your talking about and can Photo shop it for ya
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 12:01 PM
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thats funny i just thought of that the other day
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 12:19 PM
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Here's the wing.


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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 12:31 PM
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You can use my ride for the chop if you want.
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 12:34 PM
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Maybe this one would work better.
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 12:36 PM
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I think that would look extremely gay. The wing is rounded and the back of the car isn't. That's my only complaint about the 4th gen wing is that it's rounded to fit the shape of the 4th gen, and when you stick it over a sqare rear end, it looks a bit odd. With the 4th gen wing, it's more subtle and not really obvious, but with that giant thing it is going to be VERY obvious.
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 12:43 PM
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How can a wing look gay? I didn't know wings were supposed to be heterosexual. 3rd gens are more wedge shaped than rounded, so our cars look best with a wedge shaped wing or spoiler.

A lot of wings don't look right on our cars because most aftermarket wings do not follow the wedge shape, most of them are curved to match the contours of the more rounded new cars.

I used to like the 4th wing until I saw how rounded it was in the back. I kind of agree with Jim85IROC on this one. In drawing form or photshoped form it looks ok, but in real life, it would probably not look as great as you pictured it, which is my sentiment on a lot of wings.
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 12:45 PM
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 12:53 PM
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It doesn't look as bad as I was thinking, although a 91 -92 Bird could probably pull it off better.
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 01:20 PM
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i think that it would look sweet
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 02:03 PM
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i'm sorry guys i know you all like this wing but i think it sticks out there just a little bit to far i don't exactly know if it will look good on a 3rd gen.
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 02:28 PM
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Me usually being a fan of big wings....

That one looks rather odd on a 3rd Gen, But i don't like them for 4th Gens either.....

Looks like a dish out back....
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 02:29 PM
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I never said I liked it, i was just curious as to how it would look on a third gen. I don't think it looks too bad, but I wouldn't do it.
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 06:44 PM
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dont think id do it b/c it sticks out a little far but i like this spoiler i think its made my mecham... ive had these on my comp for a while and i think it looks sweet
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 06:45 PM
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 06:47 PM
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 09:58 PM
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mecham lost their mold for that wing i wish someone who had one would work a deal with them or someone to get some made i've been wanting one for a long time and real bad
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 10:00 PM
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90 formula i want a wing like your but they arnt made anymore.i think they look awesome, and are also the most functional wing made for a third gen trans am .i t looks killer but i dont think i will every get a chance to own one.
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Old Feb 12, 2003 | 08:41 AM
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i agree i really like the look of that black wing it looks sharp anyone have anymore information on it?
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Old Feb 12, 2003 | 08:49 AM
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I don't like it, the car isn't round so the wing looks stupid.
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Old Feb 12, 2003 | 03:21 PM
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sorry i didnt make it clear but that is NOT my wing... i wish it was but ive been looking for someone who has one so we can make a mold... im guessing people would really want one... personally i think it is quite badass:rockon:
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 11:01 AM
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i think it looks sweet but i don't think it would do any good at high speeds, because of the space between the car and the wing plus that big of a lip will pick the sides of the wing up off the car, but other then that it would be good for a show car
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 12:55 PM
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i like how the 4th gen mecham wing looks but i wouldnt get a wing like that for actual downforce, you have to be doing 100 or more to see a difference.
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 10:40 PM
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beafedupRS: well those wings are designed by guys who race them at high speeds so to rebut your comment yes those wings do work at high speeds. what do you mean about the space between the wing as in it's too much or too little? but yes it would be nice for a show car but good for racing too.
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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 09:31 AM
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the black one just doesn't look like it would do any good at high speeds , it has a nice size lip on it but being that big in my opinion will cause it to pick the sides of the wing up and with some high winds at high speeds you could have the sides of the banging up and down on the car (look on the side of the wing where there is no conection to the body) that is what would flap at high speeds. maybee thats why they SAY they lost it
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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by 90FormulaWS6
dont think id do it b/c it sticks out a little far but i like this spoiler i think its made my mecham... ive had these on my comp for a while and i think it looks sweet
That wing is completely awsome! I would love to get on of those babies for my firebird.
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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 12:27 PM
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Hey! I just registered to this site. I own an '82 Pontiac Firebird and I believe (not 100%sure)it's an MSE edition. At least that's what it says on both doors. It also has a wing similar looking to the one that was photochopped on the white t/a. At the moment, it's not in really good shape but, it will be once I get started on it. I will try to post pic's of it soon so you "experts" can let me know what you think. As you can tell, I don't know much about F-bodies but, I'm looking forward to learning about them.
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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by '82PONTIAC
Hey! I just registered to this site. I own an '82 Pontiac Firebird and I believe (not 100%sure)it's an MSE edition. At least that's what it says on both doors. It also has a wing similar looking to the one that was photochopped on the white t/a. At the moment, it's not in really good shape but, it will be once I get started on it. I will try to post pic's of it soon so you "experts" can let me know what you think. As you can tell, I don't know much about F-bodies but, I'm looking forward to learning about them.

Welcome to the boards! Glad to see that another early thirdgen firebird owner has made it here. Im sure you will find these boards very useful. Check out the History/Restoration board and post there. There are a few guys that know their stuff about the rare and unusual birds and camaros.

I don't know the actual production numbers for these MSE birds. but they are very hard to come by. I would love to see some pics of your ride! Nice to meet you and again welcome to the boards.
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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 03:14 PM
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,82pontiac: welcome to the boards. if the wing looks like the one on the white bird it's not the mecham spoiler now if your spoiler looks like the one on the black t/a then we may have to do some biusness.
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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 04:34 PM
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i think it looks sweet but i don't think it would do any good at high speeds, because of the space between the car and the wing plus that big of a lip will pick the sides of the wing up off the car, but other then that it would be good for a show car
Actually the wing on the black car is very functional. In fact back in this thread we were discussing it...
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...049#post900049

Originally posted by LT1guy
I just got off the phone with Mecham...they don't have the wing anymore, or even the molds to make it, but would be interested in talking to anyone who has one to possibly make a new mold. He's been getting a few requests for it lately. He also said its a very effective wing...Mecham holds the only SCCA Trans Am win that the Trans Am ever won!

If the owner of this wing happens to see this post, or you have one, call Mecham at 623-486-3144.

If you have one you're interested in selling, email me!!!!
But the point is that it is extremely functional!

But eh white photoshopped one...It might be the lighting, but it looks like a cape on the 3rd gen...
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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 05:28 PM
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imo- it belongs on a honda crx to make it fly.

its to big, and thecstock one looks alot better
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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 05:37 PM
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,82pontiac: welcome to the boards. if the wing looks like the one on the white bird it's not the mecham spoiler now if your spoiler looks like the one on the black t/a then we may have to do some biusness.
Well Now that you mention it, it certainlly does look the one on the black T/A.
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 08:50 AM
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Originally posted by '82PONTIAC
Hey! I just registered to this site. I own an '82 Pontiac Firebird and I believe (not 100%sure)it's an MSE edition. At least that's what it says on both doors. It also has a wing similar looking to the one that was photochopped on the white t/a. At the moment, it's not in really good shape but, it will be once I get started on it. I will try to post pic's of it soon so you "experts" can let me know what you think. As you can tell, I don't know much about F-bodies but, I'm looking forward to learning about them.
welcome to the boards i'm hoping to see pics of your car in the future and i'm looking forward to helping ya out with any of your problems...
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 09:45 AM
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Hey '82PONTIAC...if you do have that spoiler, i think I read somewhere that Mecham was looking for one of those spoilers to make a new mold of...maybe someone else has more info.
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 02:02 PM
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i think it looks sweet but i don't think it would do any good at high speeds, because of the space between the car and the wing plus that big of a lip will pick the sides of the wing up off the car, but other then that it would be good for a show car
Not sure which wing you're talking about, but the one on the black TA was present on the first and only TA to ever win in Trans Am, and is according to Mecham even more effective than the Aerowing. So, its not just for looks.
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 02:05 PM
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Originally posted by '82PONTIAC
Hey! I just registered to this site. I own an '82 Pontiac Firebird and I believe (not 100%sure)it's an MSE edition. At least that's what it says on both doors. It also has a wing similar looking to the one that was photochopped on the white t/a. At the moment, it's not in really good shape but, it will be once I get started on it. I will try to post pic's of it soon so you "experts" can let me know what you think. As you can tell, I don't know much about F-bodies but, I'm looking forward to learning about them.
If you're at all interested in selling the wing, PM me...seriously.
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 04:25 PM
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I like that Mecham wing very much. It is just right, aggressive, but not too aggressive and actually flows with the body lines of thirdgens.


How do you lose a mold? They only had one mold or something?


Well, I know those who have a mecham wing are not interested in selling them so it looks like if I want the wing bad enough that I will just have to make one myself.
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 05:10 PM
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whoever has one please let us make the mold from your wing... we do not need to buy the wing from you just let us use it to make the mold!!!
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 08:51 AM
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Mecham I beleive has changed hands since the cars were built, so its likely the mold is either in the hands of one of the employees from the 80s, or destroyed. I'm taking cash to the Nats this year for the specific purpose of buying one of the wings...the guy with the black 85 TA should be there (he was in the winners circle last year and can compete again this year) again. Anyone who wants to part with one, I'll trade them the new spoiler of their choice, plus the decklid drilled to mount it, professionally painted to match their car, plus a little cash for their time and trouble.
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 09:54 AM
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Mecham I beleive has changed hands since the cars were built, so its likely the mold is either in the hands of one of the employees from the 80s, or destroyed. I'm taking cash to the Nats this year for the specific purpose of buying one of the wings...the guy with the black 85 TA should be there (he was in the winners circle last year and can compete again this year) again. Anyone who wants to part with one, I'll trade them the new spoiler of their choice, plus the decklid drilled to mount it, professionally painted to match their car, plus a little cash for their time and trouble.


With an offer like that, I am sure you will get that wing. You must want that wing very badly. I am just going to handmake one myself, well, maybe not myself but someone is good at fiberglassing. It won't looke exactly like the Mecham wing, but it will be close enough for me.
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 09:58 AM
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I really want one for my 85, and to start producing copies of the wing. It does help that I have paint booths at work, and access to free paint, and can do the work myself. The offer is good to anyone who wants to give up their Mecham wing; the cash part will be determined by cost of the replacement wing and shipping.
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 04:33 PM
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Mecham I beleive has changed hands since the cars were built, ...
Really? I was thinking that Dennis and/or Kyle were still in charge of everything.
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 08:07 AM
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It was Mecham Racing from 82-85; Mecham Design and Performance 97-present. The original company was DKM Design and Performance (77-80). I would imagine that Dennis and Kyle have had some involvement in each company, but they weren't doing business from 85-97 so there was plenty of time for things to be lost, misplaced etc. I'm no expert on Mecham, so if anyone has anything to add or dispute feel free. I'm just going off their website.
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